2019 Premium Mids

[elephants]

Gotta say I am a bit surprised

Several coaches here that have strong history and know their shower, it's very surprising to see how much you guys are reacting off 1 JLT game

Macrae got 40 against the worst midfield in the comp

I dunno, 690k is so much, and when I look at putting him in my side he really throws the rest of my side out of whack, and overall I lose a starting prem

Surely there are guys who are 130-170k cheaper than him and that can get close enough.

I guess you only pick Macrae if you think he can go 115+ minimum. I'm not sure he will. Certainly won't be surprised if he does, but it's a lot of cash, and reacting against a JLT vs shower GC is probably jumping the gun

Bevo historically throws his chargers around too. McLean fwd, Dunkley mids, Hunter back. We all know Libba cant play anywhere but inside but every other midfielder on their list can play fwd and every other fwd can just about play midfield. Macrae isn't a bad pick, but I can understand why he isn't a no-brainer too

[Nige]

Gotta say I am a bit surprised

Several coaches here that have strong history and know their shower, it's very surprising to see how much you guys are reacting off 1 JLT game

Macrae got 40 against the worst midfield in the comp

I dunno, 690k is so much, and when I look at putting him in my side he really throws the rest of my side out of whack, and overall I lose a starting prem

Surely there are guys who are 130-170k cheaper than him and that can get close enough.

I guess you only pick Macrae if you think he can go 115+ minimum. I'm not sure he will. Certainly won't be surprised if he does, but it's a lot of cash, and reacting against a JLT vs shower GC is probably jumping the gun

How do you see him losing over 12 points per game though? I agree its expensive but theres nothing suggesting it was a one off season or an obvious reason why he'd decline.

[Bully]

Gotta say I am a bit surprised

Several coaches here that have strong history and know their shower, it's very surprising to see how much you guys are reacting off 1 JLT game

Macrae got 40 against the worst midfield in the comp

I dunno, 690k is so much, and when I look at putting him in my side he really throws the rest of my side out of whack, and overall I lose a starting prem

Surely there are guys who are 130-170k cheaper than him and that can get close enough.

I guess you only pick Macrae if you think he can go 115+ minimum. I'm not sure he will. Certainly won't be surprised if he does, but it's a lot of cash, and reacting against a JLT vs shower GC is probably jumping the gun

It works both ways though, if he gets off to a flier like TMitch did last year it will be tough to get him in, you will need 2 trades to do it & even that may not be enough. Pretty confident he'll be a top 8 mid so happy enough to pay the premium at the start.

[RaisyDaisy]

Like I've said, I understand picking him and I'm still considering him myself, but geez the team looks a lot deeper and better overall without him

Spot on Ele - other than Libba the rest will always get shuffled around, but Macrae will be 100% mid with Libba I would think

That said, if I'm passing on Gawn and there's no Titch either, we probably can splurge on him but I was just surprised at why that performance vs GC all of a sudden got so many seasoned coaches excited. Nothing changed from last season to that game, so it found it a little funny at the reactions and instant jumping on :)

[B.]

Macrae was my first mid picked months ago

[Southstorm]

Macrae this year isn't as urgent as Titch last year because you've probably got Grundy and maybe Gawn for the C.

Keeping in mind quite a few of his big games came when the Bulldogs midfield was players like Daniel & Jong with Dunkley at deep forward, I'm happy to wait and see how he plays alongside Libba & a fit Wallis before I take the punt.

[Colley Dogs]

Gotta say I am a bit surprised

Several coaches here that have strong history and know their shower, it's very surprising to see how much you guys are reacting off 1 JLT game

Macrae got 40 against the worst midfield in the comp

I dunno, 690k is so much, and when I look at putting him in my side he really throws the rest of my side out of whack, and overall I lose a starting prem

Surely there are guys who are 130-170k cheaper than him and that can get close enough.

I guess you only pick Macrae if you think he can go 115+ minimum. I'm not sure he will. Certainly won't be surprised if he does, but it's a lot of cash, and reacting against a JLT vs shower GC is probably jumping the gun

I know you're not referring to me, as I'm only a property steward :)

But... you do mean 1 entire season + 1 JLT game, right?

Yes, the number of one-hit wonders are endless!

But when you consider the queries this pre-season:
- Kelly (didn't play JLT 1)
- Fyfe (missed JLT 1 for a clean-out)
- Oliver (wonderful showing, but before yesterday a clean-out on both shoulders)
- Titch (absent)

This season seems to be screaming out for Macrae + Cripps + slice-&-dice-it however you wish.

It would be highly useful to save 130K - 170K by selecting a Premium over Macrae.... but factoring in everything I think there's higher EV going with, say... Macrae + B Crouch rather than M Crouch + Z Merrett (just an example).

In other words, seek value by downgrading one premium to a mid-pricer (to afford Macrae), rather than downgrading Ultra-premium Macrae to another Premium.

Just my Property Steward two-cents worth hahaha!

[_wato]

RD you’re completely missing the point re Macrae.

I thought with Libba (new recruit) coming in and all the mids fit and firing that they’d experiment and chop and change and maybe use Macrae up forward or somewhere different to accommodate all their bulls.

But all I saw was him being the guy that was constant and everyone around him changing. It wasn’t a score or overall possessions I was interested in him with, it was all about role. And nothing has changed.

Can’t see him going below 115 or even 120 fwiw. Jet.

[enzedder]

Macrae costs too much for mine.
Would have to tweak something massive like Greene to Moore or Walsh to cheap rookie combined with say Logue to Hore.
Probably doable but then need to consider if I upgrade Dusty to him who I think is great value and may only go up in price.
Easier to plan without him. Important decision, especially considering the potential extra C option he will likely provide.

[eaglesman]

Macrae costs too much for mine.
Would have to tweak something massive like Greene to Moore or Walsh to cheap rookie combined with say Logue to Hore.
Probably doable but then need to consider if I upgrade Dusty to him who I think is great value and may only go up in price.
Easier to plan without him. Important decision, especially considering the potential extra C option he will likely provide.

The hard part is working out who to upgrade for Macrae.

Would do Logue to hore in a flash.
Wouldn’t drop Walsh to cheap rookie and definitely do not drop Greene for Moore though.

[enzedder]

Macrae costs too much for mine.
Would have to tweak something massive like Greene to Moore or Walsh to cheap rookie combined with say Logue to Hore.
Probably doable but then need to consider if I upgrade Dusty to him who I think is great value and may only go up in price.
Easier to plan without him. Important decision, especially considering the potential extra C option he will likely provide.

The hard part is working out who to upgrade for Macrae.

Would do Logue to hore in a flash.
Wouldn’t drop Walsh to cheap rookie and definitely do not drop Greene for Moore though.

Thanks for your thoughts as it always nice to get another perspective on things.
After the second lot of practice games things may be clearer.... or not hahaha.

[jfitty]

Macrae's been locked for me since Supercoach opened.

If Mitchell was fit it would be hard to fit in 2 guys around that price in, but 8 scores above 140 out of 19 games last year (Mitchell had 9/22) makes him worth the price tag. Cannot see him slowing down at all.

Genuine gun and genuine captain option every week.

[RaisyDaisy]

RD you’re completely missing the point re Macrae.

I thought with Libba (new recruit) coming in and all the mids fit and firing that they’d experiment and chop and change and maybe use Macrae up forward or somewhere different to accommodate all their bulls.

But all I saw was him being the guy that was constant and everyone around him changing. It wasn’t a score or overall possessions I was interested in him with, it was all about role. And nothing has changed.

Can’t see him going below 115 or even 120 fwiw. Jet.

Fair play wato, that makes much more sense

Funnily enough, I have Macrae in my side now too, mostly for the the exact reasons you just outlined, but more so the fact that I had the cash left over to get him now that I've settled on the rookies I actually want :)

[_wato]

8 scores >140

Were 142, 141, 189, 156, 177, 147, 153, 163

Throw in scores above 120

120, 131, 131, 121

Thank you very much. Will love taking those scores in this year.

[SilverLion]

8 scores >140

Were 142, 141, 189, 156, 177, 147, 153, 163

Throw in scores above 120

120, 131, 131, 121

Thank you very much. Will love taking those scores in this year.

Fair, we know he has a high ceiling and was consistent last year. However, picking him from the start means you will be paying top (or extremely close to top) dollar for him, which also means you will be sacrificing points elsewhere.

If he doesn't start off the first few rounds with 130+, he will drop in price from the get-go.

Other cheaper but also gun mids posted similar high numbers last year, albeit not as many times, but cost 70k+ less, and the few points more than Macrae may score over them hardly justifies the massive price difference IMO.