2019 Premium Mids

[RaisyDaisy]

Well aware of Dusty's history, but I don't think he should be rubbished off that easily

4 seasons in a row of 104+ averaging (Which most completed sides have at M7/8 anyway), and he has missed something like 5 games in his entire career so he certainly has a lot of good things going for him

Nobody expect him to repeat 2017, but he certainly has the ability to push 105-110 which is more than good enough for M8, and his durability is as good as it gets

Tim Kelly will easily be a Top 6 forward, but he isn't damaging to the point where it's hurting not having him, and he can easily be an upgrade target. Making premo correctional trades is only worth doing in certain cases, and something like Dusty to Kelly isn't a big improvement at all in my opinion

TK just had 30 touches, then 31 touches and a goal, two huge games, yet only scrapes over 100 each time. Easily Top 6 forward material, but by no means is there a rush to get him

If I could turn Dusty into Neale with 1 trade I'd do it in a heart beat, but Crouch and Rocky are my only two options (besides forwards) and that's the dilemma - not sure I need to use the trade as I think I'd rather wait another week

[MontyJnr]

Well aware of Dusty's history, but I don't think he should be rubbished off that easily

4 seasons in a row of 104+ averaging (Which most completed sides have at M7/8 anyway), and he has missed something like 5 games in his entire career so he certainly has a lot of good things going for him

Nobody expect him to repeat 2017, but he certainly has the ability to push 105-110 which is more than good enough for M8, and his durability is as good as it gets

Tim Kelly will easily be a Top 6 forward, but he isn't damaging to the point where it's hurting not having him, and he can easily be an upgrade target. Making premo correctional trades is only worth doing in certain cases, and something like Dusty to Kelly isn't a big improvement at all in my opinion

TK just had 30 touches, then 31 touches and a goal, two huge games, yet only scrapes over 100 each time. Easily Top 6 forward material, but by no means is there a rush to get him

If I could turn Dusty into Neale with 1 trade I'd do it in a heart beat, but Crouch and Rocky are my only two options (besides forwards) and that's the dilemma - not sure I need to use the trade as I think I'd rather wait another week

Everyone should target midfielders that average 110+ in my opinion.

The "good enough for M8" excuse only really cuts it when you're bringing in a value premium (eg. Rocky, Sheed, Crouch). Starting a 500k+ midfielder that goes on to only average ~104 is a disappointing outcome for mine and will restrict your ability to secure a Top 50 overall spot.

Dusty to Tim Kelly could make a big difference if it takes a poor scoring forward rookie off-field and puts a decent midfield rookie on-field (eg. Setterfield benched & Butters/Scott (had gastro R2 apparently) on-field)

Dusty to Rockliff also frees up enough cash to turn a rookie into a decent midpricer or a failed midpricer into a premium.

I see significant benefits in either scenario.

[RaisyDaisy]

If I move Dusty on for a forward like Kelly, I'm just swapping Setters from fwd to mid so nothing changes in that regard

Crouch or Rocky should smash any forward,  so they're the only options I'll consider for Dusty

I've also got Greene. I can actually trade out Dusty and Greene and bring in Rocky and Kelly/Boak but I'm not sure that's worth it

Id really like to see one more game from everyone because I'm not overly convinced on anyone just yet

As for Top 50, not fussed. A high finish is satisfying for sure but nless you win overall and collect the 50k, finishing 50th or 10,000th gives you the same thing - bagels

[Mat0369]

If I move Dusty on for a forward like Kelly, I'm just swapping Setters from fwd to mid so nothing changes in that regard

Crouch or Rocky should smash any forward,  so they're the only options I'll consider for Dusty

I've also got Greene. I can actually trade out Dusty and Greene and bring in Rocky and Kelly/Boak but I'm not sure that's worth it

Id really like to see one more game from everyone because I'm not overly convinced on anyone just yet

As for Top 50, not fussed. A high finish is satisfying for sure but nless you win overall and collect the 50k, finishing 50th or 10,000th gives you the same thing - bagels

I take it you aren't sold on Sheed with Gaff not being in the team as another possible money grab?

If you were to go Dusty to Matt Crouch or JPK who can you turn Greene into?

[RaisyDaisy]

If I move Dusty on for a forward like Kelly, I'm just swapping Setters from fwd to mid so nothing changes in that regard

Crouch or Rocky should smash any forward,  so they're the only options I'll consider for Dusty

I've also got Greene. I can actually trade out Dusty and Greene and bring in Rocky and Kelly/Boak but I'm not sure that's worth it

Id really like to see one more game from everyone because I'm not overly convinced on anyone just yet

As for Top 50, not fussed. A high finish is satisfying for sure but nless you win overall and collect the 50k, finishing 50th or 10,000th gives you the same thing - bagels

I take it you aren't sold on Sheed with Gaff not being in the team as another possible money grab?

If you were to go Dusty to Matt Crouch or JPK who can you turn Greene into?

Gaff returns this week, but at 400k any of those guys need to become keepers in my opinion and I'd think Rocky is the only 400k mid that could become a keeper

Can't do anything with Greene unless I trade Dusty to Rocky which is why I'm leaning towards waiting another week

[Mat0369]

Gaff returns this week, but at 400k any of those guys need to become keepers in my opinion and I'd think Rocky is the only 400k mid that could become a keeper

Can't do anything with Greene unless I trade Dusty to Rocky which is why I'm leaning towards waiting another week

What I mean is you don't think Sheed will score as well with Gaff in the side (or you want a sample size) hence him not being a keeper.


I think at this point you want to make corrective trades to rookies that look like they will earn you 180-200k or bring in a bona fide keeper. If you don't think Rocky will become a keeper or will get injured at some point don't bring him in.

It may be the wrong move early, but you would have to hope you're not burning extra trades down the track and you can complete your team quicker.

This is partially the reason I grabbed Hoff last week instead of Phillips. The trade fricken hurts right now and I think I made the wrong move, but the idea is that Hoff will be a forward line keeper down the track and Phillips may not make enough cash to be useful (although he probably is).

I'd probably be more inclined to turn Greene into Rozee and turn Dusty into Lloyd using Duursma if I was to do anything in your situation. It gives you a bona fide keeper and a rookie you can get that 180-200k out of so they aren't wasted trades.

[Money Shot]

I’m with RD on keeping Dusty/Heeney/Greene another week.

Means I get the rookies I want which will make more cash than the above guys will lose and gives me another week to assess options.

[RaisyDaisy]

Gaff returns this week, but at 400k any of those guys need to become keepers in my opinion and I'd think Rocky is the only 400k mid that could become a keeper

Can't do anything with Greene unless I trade Dusty to Rocky which is why I'm leaning towards waiting another week

What I mean is you don't think Sheed will score as well with Gaff in the side (or you want a sample size) hence him not being a keeper.


I think at this point you want to make corrective trades to rookies that look like they will earn you 180-200k or bring in a bona fide keeper. If you don't think Rocky will become a keeper or will get injured at some point don't bring him in.

It may be the wrong move early, but you would have to hope you're not burning extra trades down the track and you can complete your team quicker.

This is partially the reason I grabbed Hoff last week instead of Phillips. The trade fricken hurts right now and I think I made the wrong move, but the idea is that Hoff will be a forward line keeper down the track and Phillips may not make enough cash to be useful (although he probably is).

I'd probably be more inclined to turn Greene into Rozee and turn Dusty into Lloyd using Duursma if I was to do anything in your situation. It gives you a bona fide keeper and a rookie you can get that 180-200k out of so they aren't wasted trades.

I started Lloyd, and Rozee doesn't interest me. The only rookie I don't have which interests me is LDU but trading Dusty to him isn't worth it

So because I'm happy with the rookies I've got I'm allowing myself to make prem corrections, but just need to decided whether I pull the trigger this week, or hold fire and do it next week with more information available

[Ringo]

How often in the past have we traded out a prem and regretted it when they came good.

With Dusty and he is still spudding Rd 5/6 then is time for concern.  Know this may be different if going for overall but if League wins can afford to wait.

Are we trading Coniglio because he scored 52 last week?

Most saying Rocky will be an option well could be a straight swap in he near future however I prefer to keep powder clean on Rocky till a further couple of weeks. Has not handles a rag in the past and we seen signs of this when Setters went to him in second half. Suspect Robbo may go to him this week as well so further assessment.

[LaHug]

How often in the past have we traded out a prem and regretted it when they came good.

Can argue both ways though, Ringo. I held Billings until he got dropped last year. Killed my season. Then, because he got dropped, I was forced to jump off and we know what happened then. Had I traded him out the moment it looked bad, I'd have scored way higher and likely even saved a trade because I wouldn't have lost all that cash.

[TommyC]

How often in the past have we traded out a prem and regretted it when they came good.

Can argue both ways though, Ringo. I held Billings until he got dropped last year. Killed my season. Then, because he got dropped, I was forced to jump off and we know what happened then. Had I traded him out the moment it looked bad, I'd have scored way higher and likely even saved a trade because I wouldn't have lost all that cash.

[frenzy]

How often in the past have we traded out a prem and regretted it when they came good.

Can argue both ways though, Ringo. I held Billings until he got dropped last year. Killed my season. Then, because he got dropped, I was forced to jump off and we know what happened then. Had I traded him out the moment it looked bad, I'd have scored way higher and likely even saved a trade because I wouldn't have lost all that cash.

Billings a prem, never was.

[RaisyDaisy]

I’m with RD on keeping Dusty/Heeney/Greene another week.

Means I get the rookies I want which will make more cash than the above guys will lose and gives me another week to assess options.

I'm still 50/50

Now with JROO going down as well, Dusty could spend more time forward. I just feel so uncomfortable because you have no idea what Dusty is going to do each week, and I might just use the trade, cut him, and never look back

[quinny88]

I’m with RD on keeping Dusty/Heeney/Greene another week.

Means I get the rookies I want which will make more cash than the above guys will lose and gives me another week to assess options.

I'm still 50/50

Now with JROO going down as well, Dusty could spend more time forward. I just feel so uncomfortable because you have no idea what Dusty is going to do each week, and I might just use the trade, cut him, and never look back

You will look back when he goes 150 this week though  ;) haha in all seriousness though I think I'm doing the same but it's only because I'm happy with my rookies and other selections.
People that are prioritising getting Dusty out ahead of rookie corrections or injury affected players like Greene and Heeney are making the wrong call IMO. Dusty scored 109 and 66 but you would think he scored a couple of 40s with how hysterical people are getting. Dusty can score shockers every now and then, we all knew this surely? He scored a 54 when Mitch Robinson tagged him in 2017 so he was never immune to it

[crowls]

How often in the past have we traded out a prem and regretted it when they came good.

Can argue both ways though, Ringo. I held Billings until he got dropped last year. Killed my season. Then, because he got dropped, I was forced to jump off and we know what happened then. Had I traded him out the moment it looked bad, I'd have scored way higher and likely even saved a trade because I wouldn't have lost all that cash.

painful memories triggered.   contrary to Mat thinking,  rocky ability to play the season out and reaction to tag see him as poor mans keeper.   2 seasons  at 110, 1 @ 132 since 2011 rest are 100 and below.   BillingsV2.0 all over him at the moment.      Would rather keep heeney or dusty than go rocky as long term option.   In the short term great chance he scores well and makes money.  just two trades required for him or poor keeper option.