Points of Difference (POD's)

[hawkers65]

Sloane and Yeo are two im looking very closely at, 6% and 7%. Ive locked in Cripps, Dusty and Merrett, then need to split Kelly/Fyfe and Sloane/Yeo as the POD 5th.

[FonFatty]

I just can't see how he improves (goes 100+) in that Collingwood side with all their SC pigs

I went back through the history of SuperCoach averages and only ever has 6 players on a team averaged 100+ in the same season, 3 times. This was back in the early days Geelong (2007/2009) and Brisbane (2007). Since 2010, 5 players in a single team have averaged over 100 just the 8 times.

Means that between Grundy, Beams, Treloar, Adams, Sidebottom and Pendles, history suggests one of them doesn't average triple figures. Let alone taking into account expected improvements from Crisp/De Goey the like.

Other than Grundy, I don't possibly want to even try and guess where they all end up by the end of the year to start one as a POD.

Couldn't agree more, and that's why Grundy is the only Pie I'd start too

This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.

[RaisyDaisy]

This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.

Was it really similar footy though?

Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA

Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me

He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane

[frenzy]

I just can't see how he improves (goes 100+) in that Collingwood side with all their SC pigs

I went back through the history of SuperCoach averages and only ever has 6 players on a team averaged 100+ in the same season, 3 times. This was back in the early days Geelong (2007/2009) and Brisbane (2007). Since 2010, 5 players in a single team have averaged over 100 just the 8 times.

Means that between Grundy, Beams, Treloar, Adams, Sidebottom and Pendles, history suggests one of them doesn't average triple figures. Let alone taking into account expected improvements from Crisp/De Goey the like.

Other than Grundy, I don't possibly want to even try and guess where they all end up by the end of the year to start one as a POD.

Couldn't agree more, and that's why Grundy is the only Pie I'd start too

This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.

Sic him rex, Lol... all that matters, is he'll be number 1.

[shaker]

This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.

Was it really similar footy though?

Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA

Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me

He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane

Any ruck that can get 20+ CP's in a game is in my team no matter how much he costs but all this discussion is in a thread about POD's and that is one thing he won't be  ;)

[eaglesman]

This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.

Was it really similar footy though?

Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA

Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me

He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane

My only concern with Grundy is now we adding in beams to the mix and treloar missed a lot of time last year. Obviously play different positions but there are only so many points to go around. It’s a a big premium to pay for someone I expect to drop in value considerably but still be the number 1 ruck.

[FonFatty]

This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.

Was it really similar footy though?

Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA

Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me

He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane

2017 ave 18 posis 2018 ave 20 posis
2017 ave 35 hit outs 2018 ave 39 hit outs
2017 ave 4 clearances 2018 ave 5 clearances.
2017 ave 4 tackles 2018 ave 5 tackles.
Little bit of improvement on his numbers from year to year. Was very similar.

[RaisyDaisy]

This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.

Was it really similar footy though?

Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA

Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me

He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane

2017 ave 18 posis 2018 ave 20 posis
2017 ave 35 hit outs 2018 ave 39 hit outs
2017 ave 4 clearances 2018 ave 5 clearances.
2017 ave 4 tackles 2018 ave 5 tackles.
Little bit of improvement on his numbers from year to year. Was very similar.

Hmmm, interesting

I guess we can't see CP, HOTA, etc and that makes a huge difference to scoring

You don't go from 97 to 131 without improving in several key areas

[GoLions]

This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.

Was it really similar footy though?

Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA

Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me

He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane

2017 ave 18 posis 2018 ave 20 posis
2017 ave 35 hit outs 2018 ave 39 hit outs
2017 ave 4 clearances 2018 ave 5 clearances.
2017 ave 4 tackles 2018 ave 5 tackles.
Little bit of improvement on his numbers from year to year. Was very similar.

Hmmm, interesting

I guess we can't see CP, HOTA, etc and that makes a huge difference to scoring

Contested up from 10 to 12
Clangers slightly down, contested marking way up, 1%'ers way up

[FonFatty]

This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.

Was it really similar footy though?

Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA

Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me

He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane

2017 ave 18 posis 2018 ave 20 posis
2017 ave 35 hit outs 2018 ave 39 hit outs
2017 ave 4 clearances 2018 ave 5 clearances.
2017 ave 4 tackles 2018 ave 5 tackles.
Little bit of improvement on his numbers from year to year. Was very similar.

Hmmm, interesting

I guess we can't see CP, HOTA, etc and that makes a huge difference to scoring

Contested up from 10 to 12
Clangers slightly down, contested marking way up, 1%'ers way up

Score involvement up as well, metres gained very similar. My point is, maybe with the slight hiccup pre season he might be one that comes out of the blocks slow and you're splashing $700k for him. With the initial comment re: multiple players from same team ave 100+ he could be one that will probably miss. Big call I know but yeah, new rucking rule, Roughead/Cox chopping out, hiccup pre season, maybe...

[Gigantor]

I think I've posted this before but who do start if not Grundy?

English?

[dmac07]

Currently put Hurn in my side as a POD instead of Witherdan and liking the look of it!

[quinny88]

Currently put Hurn in my side as a POD instead of Witherdan and liking the look of it!

I like it! Haven't seen him in a single team

[Keeper27]

Currently put Hurn in my side as a POD instead of Witherdan and liking the look of it!

Got them both... and VERY VERY tempted to drop Lloyd for someone else like simmo (another POD)

[RoughRed]

Currently put Hurn in my side as a POD instead of Witherdan and liking the look of it!

Got them both... and VERY VERY tempted to drop Lloyd for someone else like simmo (another POD)

No Lloyd for me ... upgrade later ... maybe
Hurn is in with Laird and Whitfield

Yeo vs Kelly is another decision

As WCE supporter I am very aware of picking with my heart not head. Yeo had another yo-yo year in 2018 but his big days won me matches ...