Points of Difference (POD's)

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dmac07

I wanted Crisp as a POD but question marks over whether he will even be fit rnd 1 is a worry. A full pre-season I'd have locked him.

elephants

Quote from: dmac07 on February 12, 2019, 12:17:12 AM
I wanted Crisp as a POD but question marks over whether he will even be fit rnd 1 is a worry. A full pre-season I'd have locked him.

Yeah very limited preseason has me steering clear

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 01:31:30 AM
Quote from: dmac07 on February 12, 2019, 12:17:12 AM
I wanted Crisp as a POD but question marks over whether he will even be fit rnd 1 is a worry. A full pre-season I'd have locked him.

Yeah very limited preseason has me steering clear

Can't pick him based off his preseason, but honestly I'd think he is at max price already too. Can't see him going 100+ especially with Grundy and all the Pies mids etc

_wato

I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!

Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.

elephants

Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!

Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.

He'd be in my team, but has been rehabbing from toe surgery. Will be right for the start of the season but has only been in full training for about a week. Goes against my full preseason rule unfortunately

_wato

Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!

Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.

He'd be in my team, but has been rehabbing from toe surgery. Will be right for the start of the season but has only been in full training for about a week. Goes against my full preseason rule unfortunately

Well there you go, thanks mate!!

Also word of warning for anyone considering the pies mids.. Think you'll find only Adams will have a consistent mid only role this year. Treloar and Sidey penned for more wing time, Beams to play up forward to be more versatile and Pendles of course just to play wherever. Would wait and see to UG to all of them

elephants

Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!

Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.

He'd be in my team, but has been rehabbing from toe surgery. Will be right for the start of the season but has only been in full training for about a week. Goes against my full preseason rule unfortunately

Well there you go, thanks mate!!

Also word of warning for anyone considering the pies mids.. Think you'll find only Adams will have a consistent mid only role this year. Treloar and Sidey penned for more wing time, Beams to play up forward to be more versatile and Pendles of course just to play wherever. Would wait and see to UG to all of them

Yeah great insight, gonna be such a tough one this year. Think you're right about Adams though, to me he seems the least versatile with the worst outside game of the lot (not to say he's bad, but boy the others are amazing). Hopefully he gets parked on ball and stays there for the duration of the year, like he did in 2017 and the second half of 2018.

_wato

Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:36:39 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!

Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.

He'd be in my team, but has been rehabbing from toe surgery. Will be right for the start of the season but has only been in full training for about a week. Goes against my full preseason rule unfortunately

Well there you go, thanks mate!!

Also word of warning for anyone considering the pies mids.. Think you'll find only Adams will have a consistent mid only role this year. Treloar and Sidey penned for more wing time, Beams to play up forward to be more versatile and Pendles of course just to play wherever. Would wait and see to UG to all of them

Yeah great insight, gonna be such a tough one this year. Think you're right about Adams though, to me he seems the least versatile with the worst outside game of the lot (not to say he's bad, but boy the others are amazing). Hopefully he gets parked on ball and stays there for the duration of the year, like he did in 2017 and the second half of 2018.

I think the problem with Tay Adams isn't his outside game being poorer than the others, but he is our biggest bull and his field kicking is showere at the best of time. Inside is where he belongs because he isn't really one to break open lines.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Adams have a super year imo, as well as Sier. Wouldn't surprise me to see those two and Beams start in the guts for us Round 1. Treloar and Sidey wings, with Pendles roaming across half back and the usual JDG/JT etc running through the guts.

elephants

Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:36:39 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!

Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.

He'd be in my team, but has been rehabbing from toe surgery. Will be right for the start of the season but has only been in full training for about a week. Goes against my full preseason rule unfortunately

Well there you go, thanks mate!!

Also word of warning for anyone considering the pies mids.. Think you'll find only Adams will have a consistent mid only role this year. Treloar and Sidey penned for more wing time, Beams to play up forward to be more versatile and Pendles of course just to play wherever. Would wait and see to UG to all of them

Yeah great insight, gonna be such a tough one this year. Think you're right about Adams though, to me he seems the least versatile with the worst outside game of the lot (not to say he's bad, but boy the others are amazing). Hopefully he gets parked on ball and stays there for the duration of the year, like he did in 2017 and the second half of 2018.

I think the problem with Tay Adams isn't his outside game being poorer than the others, but he is our biggest bull and his field kicking is showere at the best of time. Inside is where he belongs because he isn't really one to break open lines.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Adams have a super year imo, as well as Sier. Wouldn't surprise me to see those two and Beams start in the guts for us Round 1. Treloar and Sidey wings, with Pendles roaming across half back and the usual JDG/JT etc running through the guts.

Yeah thats what I was getting at. By not having the outside game I meant not having the footskills/flair to make anything good happen when on the outside

Pendles halfback *drools*

TommyC

Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!

Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.
I'm very big on him, and is overlooked by some because he lost DPP.

_wato

Quote from: TommyC on February 13, 2019, 12:03:51 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!

Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.
I'm very big on him, and is overlooked by some because he lost DPP.

Mmm I'm wondering if the toe thing is really gonna phase me. Read he's running upwards of 9-10km a session now and should be right Round 1.

Scores post bye - 144, 113, 94, 142, 94, 128, 128, 125, 88, 120, 91 at a 115 average. 6/11 above 120, including two 140+. Scored a 140 in the qualifying final too. Is a deadset gun... between him MCrouch and Zerrett.

duffercoat

With regard to Crisp, if he was healthy he'd be a total lock to me.

Averaged 91 with sam Murray in the team last year.

Averaged 101 without sam Murray in the team last year.

Sam Murray is out for the year.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: duffercoat on February 14, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
With regard to Crisp, if he was healthy he'd be a total lock to me.

Averaged 91 with sam Murray in the team last year.

Averaged 101 without sam Murray in the team last year.

Sam Murray is out for the year.

Murray is out, but Beams, Wells, Elliott etc are all in. Moore now kicking out, intercepting etc too

I'm very confident in that what he averaged last year is his ceiling

I just can't see how he improves (goes 100+) in that Collingwood side with all their SC pigs

Huttabito

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2019, 12:41:52 PM
I just can't see how he improves (goes 100+) in that Collingwood side with all their SC pigs
I went back through the history of SuperCoach averages and only ever has 6 players on a team averaged 100+ in the same season, 3 times. This was back in the early days Geelong (2007/2009) and Brisbane (2007). Since 2010, 5 players in a single team have averaged over 100 just the 8 times.

Means that between Grundy, Beams, Treloar, Adams, Sidebottom and Pendles, history suggests one of them doesn't average triple figures. Let alone taking into account expected improvements from Crisp/De Goey the like.

Other than Grundy, I don't possibly want to even try and guess where they all end up by the end of the year to start one as a POD.


RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Huttabito on February 18, 2019, 04:22:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2019, 12:41:52 PM
I just can't see how he improves (goes 100+) in that Collingwood side with all their SC pigs
I went back through the history of SuperCoach averages and only ever has 6 players on a team averaged 100+ in the same season, 3 times. This was back in the early days Geelong (2007/2009) and Brisbane (2007). Since 2010, 5 players in a single team have averaged over 100 just the 8 times.

Means that between Grundy, Beams, Treloar, Adams, Sidebottom and Pendles, history suggests one of them doesn't average triple figures. Let alone taking into account expected improvements from Crisp/De Goey the like.

Other than Grundy, I don't possibly want to even try and guess where they all end up by the end of the year to start one as a POD.

Couldn't agree more, and that's why Grundy is the only Pie I'd start too