Points of Difference (POD's)

Started by RaisyDaisy, January 14, 2019, 11:06:18 PM

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RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Gigantor on January 24, 2019, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 24, 2019, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Shiel is probably one of the most overrated players in the game. I say that, in that he is a good player, but the media and commentators pump him up way too much and really overrate him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tag goes to him and Zerrett only benefits
I don't think many teams will tag someone just because the media/commentators say so aha

LOL, it's not because the media/commentators say so - it's because years of talking him up has made him a much more rated player that what he actually is in reality

Are you saying that with all the data and footage available to teams to analyse the opposition, clubs are tagging Shiel based on hype?

Well why were they tagging him and not Kelly, who is clearly the better and more damaging player?

Shiel's a very good player, but I just think he is overrated. Overrated doesn't mean you're shower - it simply means you are rated higher than what you actually produce

Gigantor

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on January 24, 2019, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 24, 2019, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Shiel is probably one of the most overrated players in the game. I say that, in that he is a good player, but the media and commentators pump him up way too much and really overrate him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tag goes to him and Zerrett only benefits
I don't think many teams will tag someone just because the media/commentators say so aha

LOL, it's not because the media/commentators say so - it's because years of talking him up has made him a much more rated player that what he actually is in reality

Are you saying that with all the data and footage available to teams to analyse the opposition, clubs are tagging Shiel based on hype?

Well why were they tagging him and not Kelly, who is clearly the better and more damaging player?

Shiel's a very good player, but I just think he is overrated. Overrated doesn't mean you're shower - it simply means you are rated higher than what you actually produce

Maybe the numbers show that you get a better overall result tagging Shiel over Kelly

Its like teams tagging Jelwood not Danger

frenzy

Quote from: jvalles69 on January 24, 2019, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: frenzy on January 24, 2019, 10:27:51 AM
I think Zerrett will cop the tag because he couldnt deal with it last season and opposition team know this.

Late in the season he was tagged by:

Round 14 WC (Hutchings) - 112pts
Round 18 Freo (Banfield) - 123pts
Round 19 Syd (Hewett) - 114pts

So he got better as the year went on.

yep, Quality player at a nice price, but I still reckon the tag will go to him not Shiel.

ubeaut

Quote from: Gigantor on January 24, 2019, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on January 24, 2019, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 24, 2019, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Shiel is probably one of the most overrated players in the game. I say that, in that he is a good player, but the media and commentators pump him up way too much and really overrate him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tag goes to him and Zerrett only benefits
I don't think many teams will tag someone just because the media/commentators say so aha

LOL, it's not because the media/commentators say so - it's because years of talking him up has made him a much more rated player that what he actually is in reality

Are you saying that with all the data and footage available to teams to analyse the opposition, clubs are tagging Shiel based on hype?

Well why were they tagging him and not Kelly, who is clearly the better and more damaging player?

Shiel's a very good player, but I just think he is overrated. Overrated doesn't mean you're shower - it simply means you are rated higher than what you actually produce

Maybe the numbers show that you get a better overall result tagging Shiel over Kelly

Its like teams tagging Jelwood not Danger
It's more that Shiel has been around longer, and Kelly only broke out in 2017.
Teams started tagging Kelly instead last year. The 2 times that Shiel copped it were when Kelly wasn't playing(r8)or got injured(EF).
Kelly is good but he's not Dangerfield just yet.

hawkers65

Blakely has "severely torn his hamstring" RIP good pods.

elephants

May never eventuate but I really like Tim English. Going to be a star player and with Trengove settling down back, Campbell going to North and Roughead going to the Pies the stage is set for English (having had another pre-season under the belt) to really take that #1 mantle and make it his for the next decade. The Doggies would know that both Freo and WC (especially) would be hammering the door down to bring him home, so this is their big chance to load him up with games and tie him down long term.

elephants

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2019, 11:06:18 PM
Callan Ward is an interesting one. Shiel, Griff, Scully all gone and Ward is a proven 105 mid with a 112 season to his name too. Tough as nails and doesn't miss many games. Seriously looking at him as a true POD

Love this RD. I had my eyes on him and bumped him up my draft ranks when Shiel left. I think he's capped around 105 these days, Kelly and Conigs have established themselves as genuine A-Graders that can play inside and outside while Taranto and Hopper are not going to be far behind imo. Whilst I think he's certainly a chance for a bump, I would not be shocked to see him drop into that 105-110 range and sit there. Is that enough to make it into your final midfield? Is he cheap enough to warrant selecting as a value pick and burning a trade on later in the season.

Good for your drafts but I probably wouldn't do it in salary cap. Great pickup though

RaisyDaisy

Completely agree Ele, re Ward. You know what you'll get with him, but probably not cheap enough to start and probably won't finish high enough

As for English, you're right in that R1 is his for the taking, but geez it'd be ballsy starting him

If English and Fort both line up Round 1, who would be tempted to do English R2 Fort R3?

Southstorm

Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016     6   99.3
2017     19   100.4
2018     22   100.0


RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Southstorm on January 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016     6   99.3
2017     19   100.4
2018     22   100.0

You'd think he'd be a much more popular choice, but there's just something about him that's boring lol


Mat0369

Quote from: Southstorm on January 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016     6   99.3
2017     19   100.4
2018     22   100.0

Yup, 100 averaging forward seems like a no brainer. 3 years of basically 100, probably not a big name so he won't draw the attention of someone like Buddy at the same price. I was hesitant at first starting Danger and thinking about bye weeks down the track. He does have the same bye as Heeney as well and I think a lot of teams are sold on having those two guys in their side from the get go.

elephants

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 28, 2019, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on January 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016     6   99.3
2017     19   100.4
2018     22   100.0

You'd think he'd be a much more popular choice, but there's just something about him that's boring lol

Theres zero value in him. You'll pay for a 100 avg and that's what he will do. I like him as a sneaky 105 chance with Ablett spending more time fwd but hes probably a lock for 95-102 and that's why he's not an exciting selection vs Danger, Smith, Heeney etc

Southstorm

Quote from: elephants on January 28, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 28, 2019, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on January 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016     6   99.3
2017     19   100.4
2018     22   100.0

You'd think he'd be a much more popular choice, but there's just something about him that's boring lol

Theres zero value in him. You'll pay for a 100 avg and that's what he will do. I like him as a sneaky 105 chance with Ablett spending more time fwd but hes probably a lock for 95-102 and that's why he's not an exciting selection vs Danger, Smith, Heeney etc
I've got third degree burns the last four seasons in a row trying to pick value, I'd kill for someone that's just going to score what I need them too haha

duffercoat

Quote from: elephants on January 28, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 28, 2019, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on January 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016     6   99.3
2017     19   100.4
2018     22   100.0

You'd think he'd be a much more popular choice, but there's just something about him that's boring lol

Theres zero value in him. You'll pay for a 100 avg and that's what he will do. I like him as a sneaky 105 chance with Ablett spending more time fwd but hes probably a lock for 95-102 and that's why he's not an exciting selection vs Danger, Smith, Heeney etc

The value in Menegola is that he's a POD. He's in my team because he's a reliable forward who will score 100 avg and be a POD. Pretty incredible offer if you ask me. 

elephants

Agree with both of you fellas, I'll struggle to not pick him this year. Just constantly delivers and will be in the top handful of forwards again.