2019 Rucks

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no eye deer

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 08, 2019, 05:54:43 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on May 08, 2019, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 08, 2019, 05:25:06 PM
Bring in Hoff for F7/M9 and then have ROB and Hoff covering R1 and R2 during the bye week that Gawn and Grundy are out - that'd be a huge advantage and something I'll look at doing
How are you getting Hoff to R2 with the Grundy/Gawn/ROB triad?

Touche'  :-[

Guess that means I can at least trade out ROB now at max value. I'll still be looking at Hoff for F7/R3/M9 cover as long as he continues to score reasonably well

It doesn’t matter if he is at R2. As long as your fwds aren’t all playing tha week, The Hoff would still up one of the 19 players needed in that week.

enzedder

ROB is $402,000 with a BE of 60, expected to rise $13,900 this round R11($415,900), then $11,600 R12($427,500) and $8,500 R13($436,000) then bye R14.
Jacobs will also be assessed this week to see if he will play his first game since round two. The experienced ruckman is likely to return through the SANFL having had surgery to his right knee in April.
I'm hopeful ROB will play through to his bye round, though with Jacob's imminent return that isn't guaranteed. Averaging 90 he will be great to have whilst Gawn and Grundy have their bye in R13.
Regardless though, he has well and truly been a great cash cow and his time is nearly up.

For those with Bines and wishing to establish a Fwd/Ruck link for the run home the DPP options are...
Lobb (91ave) 478k. Probably the safe play on what we've seen. Played all 10games... Low 71, High 128, 3x 100+ but this from the AFL Website... ruckman Darcy has made a miraculous recovery from an ankle that was listed as 4-6 weeks just seven days ago, and could play alongside veteran small forward Ballantyne for Peel on Sunday against Subiaco. Sandilands is edging closer to being available after ramping up his speed running.
Lycett (82ave) has been cleared of an adductor injury after missing last week. Played R1-9 with a massive R2 and another 4 games 75-104. At 392k he's 30k more than Westhoff and expected to stay around that for another few weeks. His floor appears better than Westhoff based on the first 10 rounds which makes the price difference worth it IMO. Doesn't ruck against Grawndy again.
Westhoff (73ave) Massive R1 and heaps of dud scores since (4x 30-40s) As a loophole option he's running at 20%.
Ceglar (79ave) Hasn't had one score of 100+ to date, this season. McEvoy out 3-5 more weeks. Currently $399k, will likely hover around low 400s.

So for all that, I'm leaning towards Lycett, probably R13. He's considerably cheaper than Lobb, who could see his role change if Sandi/Darcy come in. Westhoff and Ceglar both look spuddish.

I really want Boak to finish my fwds but with an eye on total trades I am liking the idea of Lycett as F6 for cover and hoping my other five (Danger, TK, Daniel, Heeney and Marshall) will be good enough. That said there's a sneaky chance I could still nab a cheap Boak if things work out looking at current projections in which case Lycett may be a F7 loop.



MontyJnr

Quote from: enzedder on May 29, 2019, 08:40:12 PM
ROB is $402,000 with a BE of 60, expected to rise $13,900 this round R11($415,900), then $11,600 R12($427,500) and $8,500 R13($436,000) then bye R14.
Jacobs will also be assessed this week to see if he will play his first game since round two. The experienced ruckman is likely to return through the SANFL having had surgery to his right knee in April.
I'm hopeful ROB will play through to his bye round, though with Jacob's imminent return that isn't guaranteed. Averaging 90 he will be great to have whilst Gawn and Grundy have their bye in R13.
Regardless though, he has well and truly been a great cash cow and his time is nearly up.

For those with Bines and wishing to establish a Fwd/Ruck link for the run home the DPP options are...
Lobb (91ave) 478k. Probably the safe play on what we've seen. Played all 10games... Low 71, High 128, 3x 100+ but this from the AFL Website... ruckman Darcy has made a miraculous recovery from an ankle that was listed as 4-6 weeks just seven days ago, and could play alongside veteran small forward Ballantyne for Peel on Sunday against Subiaco. Sandilands is edging closer to being available after ramping up his speed running.
Lycett (82ave) has been cleared of an adductor injury after missing last week. Played R1-9 with a massive R2 and another 4 games 75-104. At 392k he's 30k more than Westhoff and expected to stay around that for another few weeks. His floor appears better than Westhoff based on the first 10 rounds which makes the price difference worth it IMO. Doesn't ruck against Grawndy again.
Westhoff (73ave) Massive R1 and heaps of dud scores since (4x 30-40s) As a loophole option he's running at 20%.
Ceglar (79ave) Hasn't had one score of 100+ to date, this season. McEvoy out 3-5 more weeks. Currently $399k, will likely hover around low 400s.

So for all that, I'm leaning towards Lycett, probably R13. He's considerably cheaper than Lobb, who could see his role change if Sandi/Darcy come in. Westhoff and Ceglar both look spuddish.

I really want Boak to finish my fwds but with an eye on total trades I am liking the idea of Lycett as F6 for cover and hoping my other five (Danger, TK, Daniel, Heeney and Marshall) will be good enough. That said there's a sneaky chance I could still nab a cheap Boak if things work out looking at current projections in which case Lycett may be a F7 loop.

I'm personally just thinking of waiting until Gawn or Grundy actually miss a game before considering one of these "semi-premium cover" R/F options.

All the guys you have listed seem like sub-optimal options to me and I'm hesitant to compromise on-field scoring because Gawn or Grundy *might* miss a game.

Bully

Quote from: MontyJnr on May 29, 2019, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: enzedder on May 29, 2019, 08:40:12 PM
ROB is $402,000 with a BE of 60, expected to rise $13,900 this round R11($415,900), then $11,600 R12($427,500) and $8,500 R13($436,000) then bye R14.
Jacobs will also be assessed this week to see if he will play his first game since round two. The experienced ruckman is likely to return through the SANFL having had surgery to his right knee in April.
I'm hopeful ROB will play through to his bye round, though with Jacob's imminent return that isn't guaranteed. Averaging 90 he will be great to have whilst Gawn and Grundy have their bye in R13.
Regardless though, he has well and truly been a great cash cow and his time is nearly up.

For those with Bines and wishing to establish a Fwd/Ruck link for the run home the DPP options are...
Lobb (91ave) 478k. Probably the safe play on what we've seen. Played all 10games... Low 71, High 128, 3x 100+ but this from the AFL Website... ruckman Darcy has made a miraculous recovery from an ankle that was listed as 4-6 weeks just seven days ago, and could play alongside veteran small forward Ballantyne for Peel on Sunday against Subiaco. Sandilands is edging closer to being available after ramping up his speed running.
Lycett (82ave) has been cleared of an adductor injury after missing last week. Played R1-9 with a massive R2 and another 4 games 75-104. At 392k he's 30k more than Westhoff and expected to stay around that for another few weeks. His floor appears better than Westhoff based on the first 10 rounds which makes the price difference worth it IMO. Doesn't ruck against Grawndy again.
Westhoff (73ave) Massive R1 and heaps of dud scores since (4x 30-40s) As a loophole option he's running at 20%.
Ceglar (79ave) Hasn't had one score of 100+ to date, this season. McEvoy out 3-5 more weeks. Currently $399k, will likely hover around low 400s.

So for all that, I'm leaning towards Lycett, probably R13. He's considerably cheaper than Lobb, who could see his role change if Sandi/Darcy come in. Westhoff and Ceglar both look spuddish.

I really want Boak to finish my fwds but with an eye on total trades I am liking the idea of Lycett as F6 for cover and hoping my other five (Danger, TK, Daniel, Heeney and Marshall) will be good enough. That said there's a sneaky chance I could still nab a cheap Boak if things work out looking at current projections in which case Lycett may be a F7 loop.

I'm personally just thinking of waiting until Gawn or Grundy actually miss a game before considering one of these "semi-premium cover" R/F options.

All the guys you have listed seem like sub-optimal options to me and I'm hesitant to compromise on-field scoring because Gawn or Grundy *might* miss a game.

Tend to agree, easy fix if a ruckman is missing, would rather stock F1-6 with bonafide mids & then look at bringing in a ruck/forward. Boak will be in my team next week or the week after, he's pretty much headed to his starting price & that's fair weight.

LaHug

Quote from: Bully on May 29, 2019, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 29, 2019, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: enzedder on May 29, 2019, 08:40:12 PM
ROB is $402,000 with a BE of 60, expected to rise $13,900 this round R11($415,900), then $11,600 R12($427,500) and $8,500 R13($436,000) then bye R14.
Jacobs will also be assessed this week to see if he will play his first game since round two. The experienced ruckman is likely to return through the SANFL having had surgery to his right knee in April.
I'm hopeful ROB will play through to his bye round, though with Jacob's imminent return that isn't guaranteed. Averaging 90 he will be great to have whilst Gawn and Grundy have their bye in R13.
Regardless though, he has well and truly been a great cash cow and his time is nearly up.

For those with Bines and wishing to establish a Fwd/Ruck link for the run home the DPP options are...
Lobb (91ave) 478k. Probably the safe play on what we've seen. Played all 10games... Low 71, High 128, 3x 100+ but this from the AFL Website... ruckman Darcy has made a miraculous recovery from an ankle that was listed as 4-6 weeks just seven days ago, and could play alongside veteran small forward Ballantyne for Peel on Sunday against Subiaco. Sandilands is edging closer to being available after ramping up his speed running.
Lycett (82ave) has been cleared of an adductor injury after missing last week. Played R1-9 with a massive R2 and another 4 games 75-104. At 392k he's 30k more than Westhoff and expected to stay around that for another few weeks. His floor appears better than Westhoff based on the first 10 rounds which makes the price difference worth it IMO. Doesn't ruck against Grawndy again.
Westhoff (73ave) Massive R1 and heaps of dud scores since (4x 30-40s) As a loophole option he's running at 20%.
Ceglar (79ave) Hasn't had one score of 100+ to date, this season. McEvoy out 3-5 more weeks. Currently $399k, will likely hover around low 400s.

So for all that, I'm leaning towards Lycett, probably R13. He's considerably cheaper than Lobb, who could see his role change if Sandi/Darcy come in. Westhoff and Ceglar both look spuddish.

I really want Boak to finish my fwds but with an eye on total trades I am liking the idea of Lycett as F6 for cover and hoping my other five (Danger, TK, Daniel, Heeney and Marshall) will be good enough. That said there's a sneaky chance I could still nab a cheap Boak if things work out looking at current projections in which case Lycett may be a F7 loop.

I'm personally just thinking of waiting until Gawn or Grundy actually miss a game before considering one of these "semi-premium cover" R/F options.

All the guys you have listed seem like sub-optimal options to me and I'm hesitant to compromise on-field scoring because Gawn or Grundy *might* miss a game.

Tend to agree, easy fix if a ruckman is missing, would rather stock F1-6 with bonafide mids & then look at bringing in a ruck/forward. Boak will be in my team next week or the week after, he's pretty much headed to his starting price & that's fair weight.

Grundy won't be rested either because he's Collingwood's only real ruck. I think if the Dees were playing better, they might rest Max and play Preuss solo at some stage but they'll be too desperate to win to do that. Which means it's either an injury (in which case, we might be forced to trade anyway), or there's no point getting subpar players.

(All that said, my whole team is subpar...)

enzedder

Quote from: LaHug on May 30, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: Bully on May 29, 2019, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 29, 2019, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: enzedder on May 29, 2019, 08:40:12 PM
ROB is $402,000 with a BE of 60, expected to rise $13,900 this round R11($415,900), then $11,600 R12($427,500) and $8,500 R13($436,000) then bye R14.
Jacobs will also be assessed this week to see if he will play his first game since round two. The experienced ruckman is likely to return through the SANFL having had surgery to his right knee in April.
I'm hopeful ROB will play through to his bye round, though with Jacob's imminent return that isn't guaranteed. Averaging 90 he will be great to have whilst Gawn and Grundy have their bye in R13.
Regardless though, he has well and truly been a great cash cow and his time is nearly up.

For those with Bines and wishing to establish a Fwd/Ruck link for the run home the DPP options are...
Lobb (91ave) 478k. Probably the safe play on what we've seen. Played all 10games... Low 71, High 128, 3x 100+ but this from the AFL Website... ruckman Darcy has made a miraculous recovery from an ankle that was listed as 4-6 weeks just seven days ago, and could play alongside veteran small forward Ballantyne for Peel on Sunday against Subiaco. Sandilands is edging closer to being available after ramping up his speed running.
Lycett (82ave) has been cleared of an adductor injury after missing last week. Played R1-9 with a massive R2 and another 4 games 75-104. At 392k he's 30k more than Westhoff and expected to stay around that for another few weeks. His floor appears better than Westhoff based on the first 10 rounds which makes the price difference worth it IMO. Doesn't ruck against Grawndy again.
Westhoff (73ave) Massive R1 and heaps of dud scores since (4x 30-40s) As a loophole option he's running at 20%.
Ceglar (79ave) Hasn't had one score of 100+ to date, this season. McEvoy out 3-5 more weeks. Currently $399k, will likely hover around low 400s.

So for all that, I'm leaning towards Lycett, probably R13. He's considerably cheaper than Lobb, who could see his role change if Sandi/Darcy come in. Westhoff and Ceglar both look spuddish.

I really want Boak to finish my fwds but with an eye on total trades I am liking the idea of Lycett as F6 for cover and hoping my other five (Danger, TK, Daniel, Heeney and Marshall) will be good enough. That said there's a sneaky chance I could still nab a cheap Boak if things work out looking at current projections in which case Lycett may be a F7 loop.

I'm personally just thinking of waiting until Gawn or Grundy actually miss a game before considering one of these "semi-premium cover" R/F options.

All the guys you have listed seem like sub-optimal options to me and I'm hesitant to compromise on-field scoring because Gawn or Grundy *might* miss a game.

Tend to agree, easy fix if a ruckman is missing, would rather stock F1-6 with bonafide mids & then look at bringing in a ruck/forward. Boak will be in my team next week or the week after, he's pretty much headed to his starting price & that's fair weight.

Grundy won't be rested either because he's Collingwood's only real ruck. I think if the Dees were playing better, they might rest Max and play Preuss solo at some stage but they'll be too desperate to win to do that. Which means it's either an injury (in which case, we might be forced to trade anyway), or there's no point getting subpar players.

(All that said, my whole team is subpar...)
Too logical. So the dud DPP rucks can be avoided and trade saved.
ROB to Boak after all that.
Thanks ^

LaHug

I think I'll be doing ROB to Dunkley/Boak but need to decide whether to wait for after the Grundy/Gawn bye... I guess team selections will make my choice for me most weeks.

HappyDEZ

Quote from: enzedder on May 30, 2019, 11:27:48 AM
Quote from: LaHug on May 30, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: Bully on May 29, 2019, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 29, 2019, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: enzedder on May 29, 2019, 08:40:12 PM
ROB is $402,000 with a BE of 60, expected to rise $13,900 this round R11($415,900), then $11,600 R12($427,500) and $8,500 R13($436,000) then bye R14.
Jacobs will also be assessed this week to see if he will play his first game since round two. The experienced ruckman is likely to return through the SANFL having had surgery to his right knee in April.
I'm hopeful ROB will play through to his bye round, though with Jacob's imminent return that isn't guaranteed. Averaging 90 he will be great to have whilst Gawn and Grundy have their bye in R13.
Regardless though, he has well and truly been a great cash cow and his time is nearly up.

For those with Bines and wishing to establish a Fwd/Ruck link for the run home the DPP options are...
Lobb (91ave) 478k. Probably the safe play on what we've seen. Played all 10games... Low 71, High 128, 3x 100+ but this from the AFL Website... ruckman Darcy has made a miraculous recovery from an ankle that was listed as 4-6 weeks just seven days ago, and could play alongside veteran small forward Ballantyne for Peel on Sunday against Subiaco. Sandilands is edging closer to being available after ramping up his speed running.
Lycett (82ave) has been cleared of an adductor injury after missing last week. Played R1-9 with a massive R2 and another 4 games 75-104. At 392k he's 30k more than Westhoff and expected to stay around that for another few weeks. His floor appears better than Westhoff based on the first 10 rounds which makes the price difference worth it IMO. Doesn't ruck against Grawndy again.
Westhoff (73ave) Massive R1 and heaps of dud scores since (4x 30-40s) As a loophole option he's running at 20%.
Ceglar (79ave) Hasn't had one score of 100+ to date, this season. McEvoy out 3-5 more weeks. Currently $399k, will likely hover around low 400s.

So for all that, I'm leaning towards Lycett, probably R13. He's considerably cheaper than Lobb, who could see his role change if Sandi/Darcy come in. Westhoff and Ceglar both look spuddish.

I really want Boak to finish my fwds but with an eye on total trades I am liking the idea of Lycett as F6 for cover and hoping my other five (Danger, TK, Daniel, Heeney and Marshall) will be good enough. That said there's a sneaky chance I could still nab a cheap Boak if things work out looking at current projections in which case Lycett may be a F7 loop.

I'm personally just thinking of waiting until Gawn or Grundy actually miss a game before considering one of these "semi-premium cover" R/F options.

All the guys you have listed seem like sub-optimal options to me and I'm hesitant to compromise on-field scoring because Gawn or Grundy *might* miss a game.

Tend to agree, easy fix if a ruckman is missing, would rather stock F1-6 with bonafide mids & then look at bringing in a ruck/forward. Boak will be in my team next week or the week after, he's pretty much headed to his starting price & that's fair weight.

Grundy won't be rested either because he's Collingwood's only real ruck. I think if the Dees were playing better, they might rest Max and play Preuss solo at some stage but they'll be too desperate to win to do that. Which means it's either an injury (in which case, we might be forced to trade anyway), or there's no point getting subpar players.

(All that said, my whole team is subpar...)
Too logical. So the dud DPP rucks can be avoided and trade saved.
ROB to Boak after all that.
Thanks ^
I still think a FWD/RUC F7 will be my first trade when my team is complete. If & when that happens.

justaverage

As someone who doesn't have Gawn...  :'(

I'll be looking to harbour some cash and go ROB -> Gawn in round 14 if all goes to plan.

Of the R/F options I think Westhoff with Dixon surely coming back soon, if only I didn't start him :-[

crowls

Quote from: justaverage on May 30, 2019, 08:24:49 PM
As someone who doesn't have Gawn...  :'(

I'll be looking to harbour some cash and go ROB -> Gawn in round 14 if all goes to plan.

Of the R/F options I think Westhoff with Dixon surely coming back soon, if only I didn't start him :-[
did trade last week  58 point gain.   almost made up for young's stinking 17

justaverage

Jacobs SANFL stats - 20 disposals, 28 hit-outs, nine marks, five goals, five clearances, three inside 50s

ROB - 52 points didn't make his BE

Looks like he might not be in my team until his bye now

tkringle

Quote from: justaverage on June 02, 2019, 10:51:50 AM
Jacobs SANFL stats - 20 disposals, 28 hit-outs, nine marks, five goals, five clearances, three inside 50s

ROB - 52 points didn't make his BE

Looks like he might not be in my team until his bye now

Yeah I moved him on for Cameron this week. They share the bye and I was never going to have a full forward line round 13 anyway, so no point keeping ROB and watching him bleed $$

justaverage

Quote from: tkringle on June 02, 2019, 12:20:33 PM
Quote from: justaverage on June 02, 2019, 10:51:50 AM
Jacobs SANFL stats - 20 disposals, 28 hit-outs, nine marks, five goals, five clearances, three inside 50s

ROB - 52 points didn't make his BE

Looks like he might not be in my team until his bye now

Yeah I moved him on for Cameron this week. They share the bye and I was never going to have a full forward line round 13 anyway, so no point keeping ROB and watching him bleed $$

I might have to make the trade next week if the dollars allow, it will be close if I go Drew to Bewley and ROB to Gawn

js19

Gawn’s monster games and ROB’s stinker couldn’t have come at a worse time for those hoping to get him after his bye by using ROB... Gawn will be over $700k after the bye it seems, with ROB under $400k

LaHug

I had to trade ROB this week to afford Whitfield. Wish I'd got a different premium but at least I timed my ROB move right...