2019 Rucks

[Southstorm]

A top 8 midfielder is usually around the 110-115ppg mark while Gawn is a good chance to go 130. This is important, as trading Crouch later on could he as simple as a sideways move to a fallen premium. Moving to Gawn might require one, maybe two trades. 

As I found out last year (fmd), trading in $700k players comes with big consequences.

[RaisyDaisy]

Looking like we might have a chance of starting a playing R3

Fingers crossed he gets a crack early

Lachie Young @lachie_young
With six weeks left before JLT matches start, Darcy Fort and Rhys Stanley appear to be locked in a battle for Geelong's number one ruck mantle...for now

I'm starting to think that even if Fort doesn't get named Round 1, we should still start him as R3 and use him as our loophole because I'm confident he will eventually get games

[Keeper27]

like most going with Grundy/Krooozer combo

[crowls]

I think you have to start Grundy no matter what and Gawn if Preuss doesn't look like being a permanent fixture in the Demons. No other ruck will get close to 130ppg this year.

Spot on

I am optimistic on Goldy having his head right and getting to 120....     him or krez as r2  not paying top dollar for two rucks when history shows repeating is very very difficult

[ubeaut]

Looking like we might have a chance of starting a playing R3

Fingers crossed he gets a crack early

Lachie Young @lachie_young
With six weeks left before JLT matches start, Darcy Fort and Rhys Stanley appear to be locked in a battle for Geelong's number one ruck mantle...for now

I'm starting to think that even if Fort doesn't get named Round 1, we should still start him as R3 and use him as our loophole because I'm confident he will eventually get games

I've had Fort locked in at R3 for over a month. Scarlett rates him and he will get every chance given the dodgy ruck stocks at the Cattery.
Opens up options of Kreuz/Mummy with backup. The downside is no loophole R3, and no DPP if starting Hoff in fwds. But having a playing R3 making decent coin should more than make up for that.

[Mat0369]

You could always risk it and go Fort at R2 with Lobb/Hoff at F4 and a loophole option at R3 if you're worried about ruck coverage.

Kreuz would need an absolutely flawless pre-season for me to pick him, even then I would need a fallback option because the heart scare worries me more than anything else. It's not like he is the price of Roberton either, he is mid 400k

[shaker]

Not much chat about the 6 - 6 - 6 rule and how this will affect rucks some interesting stuff in the herald sun today about Gawn having 100 more centre bounce hit outs than anyone else Bellchambers Goldy and Grundy the next best and the how the Tiges could suffer with the new rule ,  do we have to think about what mids we pick according to there teams ruck capabilities?

[Gigantor]

Kreuzer had minor knee surgery last week. Not ideal haha

[Mat0369]

Kreuzer had minor knee surgery last week. Not ideal haha

Scrap him. He had to have a flawless pre-season to even be considered.

Not much chat about the 6 - 6 - 6 rule and how this will affect rucks some interesting stuff in the herald sun today about Gawn having 100 more centre bounce hit outs than anyone else Bellchambers Goldy and Grundy the next best and the how the Tiges could suffer with the new rule ,  do we have to think about what mids we pick according to there teams ruck capabilities?

Will it though? Good midfielders can read off opposition taps and aren't reliant on first use.

[shaker]

It will have some affect as there will be no congestion and rucks can take the ball themselves with confidence think it will be highlighted when one team has a dominant ruck and teams with really quick mids and a dominant ruck will be the ones that benefit.

[Mat0369]

It's literally going to make 0 difference. You're still going to have guys starting right on the 50m arc charging in through the back of the square and teams will use their wing to manufacture their loose man. At a ground like the SCG where the arc and the square practically touch it's even more of a useless rule.

The only thing that might change is that rucks can grab the ball out of the ruck without being penalised as having prior. What is dumb with that rule change is the reason they changed it in the first place was the increased stoppages due to the ruck getting tackled right away and they wanted to decrease stoppages/congestion. So all you will see is increased tackle numbers for the opposition ruck.

[RaisyDaisy]

Not much chat about the 6 - 6 - 6 rule and how this will affect rucks some interesting stuff in the herald sun today about Gawn having 100 more centre bounce hit outs than anyone else Bellchambers Goldy and Grundy the next best and the how the Tiges could suffer with the new rule ,  do we have to think about what mids we pick according to there teams ruck capabilities?

All that article did was reconfirm what I have already being doing from the get go - Grundy and Gawn set and forget

As for Kreuz:

“We don’t expect it to be a major interruption and we’re really confident he’s going to get back to do some game play late in the pre-season and be ready for Round 1,” Carlton high performance director Andrew Russell told the club’s website.

“We’re fortunate that Kreuzer’s had an excellent preparation up until this point and hasn’t missed a beat at all, so we expect him to be in very good shape at the start of the season.”

[shaker]

It's literally going to make 0 difference. You're still going to have guys starting right on the 50m arc charging in through the back of the square and teams will use their wing to manufacture their loose man. At a ground like the SCG where the arc and the square practically touch it's even more of a useless rule.

The only thing that might change is that rucks can grab the ball out of the ruck without being penalised as having prior. What is dumb with that rule change is the reason they changed it in the first place was the increased stoppages due to the ruck getting tackled right away and they wanted to decrease stoppages/congestion. So all you will see is increased tackle numbers for the opposition ruck.

I think otherwise not much use charging in when the ball is sailing over your head to the FWD line ? the teams with the fast mids and the dominant rucks who will put it in there path will benefit teams like my Tiges might struggle at centre bounces because of our ruck stocks  :'( but there is certainly a lot to watch in JLT  ;)

[Mat0369]

I think otherwise not much use charging in when the ball is sailing over your head to the FWD line ? the teams with the fast mids and the dominant rucks who will put it in there path will benefit teams like my Tiges might struggle at centre bounces because of our ruck stocks  :'( but there is certainly a lot to watch in JLT  ;)

It means they can't play Grigg as the second ruck anymore. If you're coming up against a midget and you're Max Gawn it makes the most sense to just grab it out without penalty now.

[shaker]

Yep he's finished as a ruck but see the Pies with there depth in the mids with Grundy looking pretty good this year