Money Shot 2019 Campaign

Started by Money Shot, December 15, 2018, 02:23:50 PM

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Ashmore62

Quote from: Money Shot on March 08, 2019, 10:13:51 PM
Whitfield, Williams, Smith, Roberton, Clark, Wilkie (Burgess, Hore)
Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Coniglio, Dusty, Walsh, Hind (Bewley, Atkins, Gibbons)
Grundy, Goldy (Bines)
Danger, Heeney, Greene, Setterfield, Drew, Balta (Parker, Cavarra)
$2,000

Need round 1 to come already.

Smith and Coniglio have come in as I think Smith will go 90+ and Coniglio will be a top 8 mid.

Brad Crouch is very close to coming into this side but I just don’t know if I see him going 105+ across the whole season.
Matt Crouch and Sloane are also tempting but will they be top 10 mids? I don’t think so.
Laird would be in the team but can’t fit him in due to structure and I don’t see him improving on last year whereas Whitfield could.



Great side MS.. making slight changes as we speak.

Samsturmfels

nice side, your midfield is very strong! however the only issue i really have is that you dont have enough cash to spend on more expensive rookies such as collins (not a must), butters and constable

SilverLion

Quote from: Money Shot on March 08, 2019, 10:13:51 PM
Whitfield, Williams, Smith, Roberton, Clark, Wilkie (Burgess, Hore)
Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Coniglio, Dusty, Walsh, Hind (Bewley, Atkins, Gibbons)
Grundy, Goldy (Bines)
Danger, Heeney, Greene, Setterfield, Drew, Balta (Parker, Cavarra)
$2,000

Need round 1 to come already.

Smith and Coniglio have come in as I think Smith will go 90+ and Coniglio will be a top 8 mid.

Brad Crouch is very close to coming into this side but I just don’t know if I see him going 105+ across the whole season.
Matt Crouch and Sloane are also tempting but will they be top 10 mids? I don’t think so.
Laird would be in the team but can’t fit him in due to structure and I don’t see him improving on last year whereas Whitfield could.
Nice side MS, paying up for that midfield but thats where the majority of points come from so not a bad idea. Would be starting Laird over Whitfield, safe as houses to be a top 6 back, and theres not many players on any line you can say would be a top 6 comfortably.

Bully

Quote from: SilverLion on March 10, 2019, 01:07:29 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 08, 2019, 10:13:51 PM
Whitfield, Williams, Smith, Roberton, Clark, Wilkie (Burgess, Hore)
Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Coniglio, Dusty, Walsh, Hind (Bewley, Atkins, Gibbons)
Grundy, Goldy (Bines)
Danger, Heeney, Greene, Setterfield, Drew, Balta (Parker, Cavarra)
$2,000

Need round 1 to come already.

Smith and Coniglio have come in as I think Smith will go 90+ and Coniglio will be a top 8 mid.

Brad Crouch is very close to coming into this side but I just don’t know if I see him going 105+ across the whole season.
Matt Crouch and Sloane are also tempting but will they be top 10 mids? I don’t think so.
Laird would be in the team but can’t fit him in due to structure and I don’t see him improving on last year whereas Whitfield could.
Nice side MS, paying up for that midfield but thats where the majority of points come from so not a bad idea. Would be starting Laird over Whitfield, safe as houses to be a top 6 back, and theres not many players on any line you can say would be a top 6 comfortably.

Just an extension of the defender premo vs the midfield premo argument, it can very tough to get a bargain in defence due to scarcity, if you go back in history you will see the best scorers rarely dip in price & generally don't have the depth that fallen midfield premos have. That essentially means you have to wait & hope for a buying opportunity & sometimes that may entail two downgrades to get the necessary cash. Laird is a prime example, in 20 games last year he scored 13 tons and only once scored below 80, that is amazing consistency & provides the perfect anchor for any defence. The fact he has also gone 93, 96, 100, 106 over the past 4 years also indicates a player trending in the right direction.

Money Shot

Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2019, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 10, 2019, 01:07:29 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 08, 2019, 10:13:51 PM
Whitfield, Williams, Smith, Roberton, Clark, Wilkie (Burgess, Hore)
Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Coniglio, Dusty, Walsh, Hind (Bewley, Atkins, Gibbons)
Grundy, Goldy (Bines)
Danger, Heeney, Greene, Setterfield, Drew, Balta (Parker, Cavarra)
$2,000

Need round 1 to come already.

Smith and Coniglio have come in as I think Smith will go 90+ and Coniglio will be a top 8 mid.

Brad Crouch is very close to coming into this side but I just don’t know if I see him going 105+ across the whole season.
Matt Crouch and Sloane are also tempting but will they be top 10 mids? I don’t think so.
Laird would be in the team but can’t fit him in due to structure and I don’t see him improving on last year whereas Whitfield could.
Nice side MS, paying up for that midfield but thats where the majority of points come from so not a bad idea. Would be starting Laird over Whitfield, safe as houses to be a top 6 back, and theres not many players on any line you can say would be a top 6 comfortably.

Just an extension of the defender premo vs the midfield premo argument, it can very tough to get a bargain in defence due to scarcity, if you go back in history you will see the best scorers rarely dip in price & generally don't have the depth that fallen midfield premos have. That essentially means you have to wait & hope for a buying opportunity & sometimes that may entail two downgrades to get the necessary cash. Laird is a prime example, in 20 games last year he scored 13 tons and only once scored below 80, that is amazing consistency & provides the perfect anchor for any defence. The fact he has also gone 93, 96, 100, 106 over the past 4 years also indicates a player trending in the right direction.
Interesting points boys.

Definitely something to think about.

Money Shot

Whitfield, Williams, Smith, Roberton*, Clark, Duursma (Burgess, Hore)
Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Dusty, Crouch, Crouch, Walsh, Constable (Scott, Atkins, Gibbons)
Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
Danger, Heeney, Greene, Moore, Setterfield, Drew (Balta, Parker)
$32,400

Defence:
Whitfield is a reasonably safe bet to finish in the top 6 and isn’t as expensive as Lloyd/Laird/Simmo/Sicily etc. The next 3 in line I think all have potential to go 90+ this season. If Roberton lines up round 1 I’m starting him and if he doesn’t I have a few options that I will explore. Clark/Duursma look to have the best scoring ability out of the rookies and Burgess can swing forward with Moore. Hore looks good for a bench player.

Midfield:
The first 5 selections I think could be top 8 mids come seasons end. The fact that Matt Crouch is only in 11% of teams excites me because after looking at his stats he could easily go 110+ this year. Brad Crouch I think goes 100-105 which I will be keeping at M8. Walsh has been one of only a few players that hasn’t left my side this season. Then 4 cheaper guys to round out the midfield.

Rucks:
Grundy/Gawn locked as they should comfortably be number 1 come seasons end. Was on Goldy for a while but if he is scoring 10 or more points less per game it is really going to hurt me. Baines can swing forward incase of emergency.

Forward:
Danger and Heeney locked for obvious reasons. Greene looked really lively and scored well for his time on ground and has shown he can be a keeper so I’m happy to take the punt on him for the 3rd time (shame on me if it goes wrong) Moore looked bloody good today against my blue boys so having him with his job security and ability to score 80+ comfortably makes him much more appealing than a rookie. Setterfield and Drew are both locks. Balta could score well pinch hitting in the ruck and Parker will be a nice F9.

Other options:
Defence: Hanley, Taylor, Ridley are all possible alternatives for Roberton if he doesn’t get up.

Midfield: Macrae, Coniglio, Liberatore are all possibilities.

Pretty set on rucks and forwards.

Mat0369

I like all your lines except for the forward line. I can see the merit in picking all the guys you have in defense, the midfield and in the ruck. Forward line on the other hand....

Danger and Heeney should be locks. 100% agree on those two. Drew and Setters should also be locks. Balta and Parker are both good bench options. Starting both Moore and Greene is a recipe for disaster.

Greene can score but you're taking the risk on his body which is fine if he is your forward 4. If he flops you can trade him to a rookie. Moore looked ok today against a Carlton team who have not had any cohesive play out of their 3 tall forwards outside of the last quarter where McKay looked good and Curnow looked meh. The way the Blues moved the ball in the first three quarters was pretty poor.

They play Geelong, Richmond and WC in the first three rounds. I'd be shocked if he averaged more than 70 (probably closer to 60) through those first 3 games. You have Hawkins, JRoo/Lynch and JJK/Darling in the first three rounds with mids that will serve it to them on a platter.

Money Shot

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 11, 2019, 08:15:10 PM
I like all your lines except for the forward line. I can see the merit in picking all the guys you have in defense, the midfield and in the ruck. Forward line on the other hand....

Danger and Heeney should be locks. 100% agree on those two. Drew and Setters should also be locks. Balta and Parker are both good bench options. Starting both Moore and Greene is a recipe for disaster.

Greene can score but you're taking the risk on his body which is fine if he is your forward 4. If he flops you can trade him to a rookie. Moore looked ok today against a Carlton team who have not had any cohesive play out of their 3 tall forwards outside of the last quarter where McKay looked good and Curnow looked meh. The way the Blues moved the ball in the first three quarters was pretty poor.

They play Geelong, Richmond and WC in the first three rounds. I'd be shocked if he averaged more than 70 (probably closer to 60) through those first 3 games. You have Hawkins, JRoo/Lynch and JJK/Darling in the first three rounds with mids that will serve it to them on a platter.

Greene I am backing in to be a keeper and if he gets injured early on I’m sure there will be options to trade him too.

Moore has played two really good games in a SuperCoach friendly position. Freo and Carlton are definitely not the greatest opponents to verse however. Considering how cheap he is and the job security he has I am willing to take the risk on him. If he averages 70 and plays every game then it isn’t a fail in my eyes as he has much better job security than others. He also only needs a few big scores to make some serious coin.

walloo44

Quote from: Money Shot on March 11, 2019, 08:54:01 PM
Repost so it’s all on the same page!

Whitfield, Williams, Smith, Roberton*, Clark, Duursma (Burgess, Hore)
Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Dusty, Crouch, Crouch, Walsh, Constable (Scott, Atkins, Gibbons)
Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
Danger, Heeney, Greene, Moore, Setterfield, Drew (Balta, Parker)
$32,400

Defence:
Whitfield is a reasonably safe bet to finish in the top 6 and isn’t as expensive as Lloyd/Laird/Simmo/Sicily etc. The next 3 in line I think all have potential to go 90+ this season. If Roberton lines up round 1 I’m starting him and if he doesn’t I have a few options that I will explore. Clark/Duursma look to have the best scoring ability out of the rookies and Burgess can swing forward with Moore. Hore looks good for a bench player.

Midfield:
The first 5 selections I think could be top 8 mids come seasons end. The fact that Matt Crouch is only in 11% of teams excites me because after looking at his stats he could easily go 110+ this year. Brad Crouch I think goes 100-105 which I will be keeping at M8. Walsh has been one of only a few players that hasn’t left my side this season. Then 4 cheaper guys to round out the midfield.

Rucks:
Grundy/Gawn locked as they should comfortably be number 1 come seasons end. Was on Goldy for a while but if he is scoring 10 or more points less per game it is really going to hurt me. Baines can swing forward incase of emergency.

Forward:
Danger and Heeney locked for obvious reasons. Greene looked really lively and scored well for his time on ground and has shown he can be a keeper so I’m happy to take the punt on him for the 3rd time (shame on me if it goes wrong) Moore looked bloody good today against my blue boys so having him with his job security and ability to score 80+ comfortably makes him much more appealing than a rookie. Setterfield and Drew are both locks. Balta could score well pinch hitting in the ruck and Parker will be a nice F9.

Other options:
Defence: Hanley, Taylor, Ridley are all possible alternatives for Roberton if he doesn’t get up.

Midfield: Macrae, Coniglio, Liberatore are all possibilities.

Pretty set on rucks and forwards.

The team looks very solid, can sit and wait for round 1 teams.
Just a question, why the lack of interest in fyfe? and whats your contingency plan for roberton... would u swing moore down back?

Money Shot

Fyfe has had an interrupted preseason and will likely be managed throughout the season. No doubt he scores well but with so many premium options who score just as well I will take the risk on not starting him and hope he misses a game or two earlish in the season. I think on overall points he will be a top 5-10 mid but I’m more confident in the 5 mids in my team currently.

Moore to Swing back, Petruccelle at F7 use the cash to upgrade elsewhere.
Alternatively
Hanley, Taylor, Ridley, Collins and even Scrimshaw are all capable at D4.

greco272

Can I get some more thoughts on Moore???

I know he is playing back now but has never averaged close to 80+ and always gets injured.

Do you think he can play 10+ games until the byes?

Money Shot

Quote from: greco272 on March 12, 2019, 08:31:52 PM
Can I get some more thoughts on Moore???

I know he is playing back now but has never averaged close to 80+ and always gets injured.

Do you think he can play 10+ games until the byes?
I think he looked really good in the two JLT games and has much better scoring ability and job security than the rookies so I have locked him in.

Money Shot

Why I don’t rate the top tier defenders this year.

1. Lloyd: massive jump from the previous season so is likely to fall back a little bit and be much cheaper later on
2. Laird: Milera and Smith take valuable points off him and Smith seems to be taking kick in duties
3. Sicily: could be hit and miss as a swingman
4. Simpson: had his best year for a long time last year and Newman coming in could take some points off him.
5. Whitfield: Another role change to HFF could really hurt his scoring
6. Hurn: Best year ever last year by a while. Think the 6-6-6 role could hurt him a bit
7. Crisp: Had a pretty poor end to last season and will be hard to have huge numbers with Grundy, Trealor, Beams, Pendles, Sidebottom.

Bully

Think Whitfield is the only one who is undervalued a smidgen, if you look back on last year he started very slowly & then came home like a freight train. Moving to the wing won't hurt either, he's already proven he can score well there. Don't buy the forward talk either, Greene comes back, Daniels should get more time, Taranto can play there too.

Money Shot

Quote from: Bully on March 13, 2019, 02:47:10 PM
Think Whitfield is the only one who is undervalued a smidgen, if you look back on last year he started very slowly & then came home like a freight train. Moving to the wing won't hurt either, he's already proven he can score well there. Don't buy the forward talk either, Greene comes back, Daniels should get more time, Taranto can play there too.
Taranto looks set to become a full time mid this year. I just can’t understand why they would post an article about him playing forward if there was no truth behind it.