Mid Price Options 2019

Started by RaisyDaisy, December 13, 2018, 11:20:23 AM

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GoldDigger

Quote from: GoLions on March 07, 2019, 07:32:22 PM
... concussion flowers you up for a lot longer than people think ...
This is very true!

SilverLion

I'll reiterate, he can't be considered a bad pick at this stage. I can't word it any clearer than that.

GoldDigger

Quote from: SilverLion on March 07, 2019, 08:28:53 PM
I'll reiterate, he can't be considered a bad pick at this stage. I can't word it any clearer than that.
Yup!

RaisyDaisy

#333
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 05:57:16 PM
Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 05:26:09 PM
People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Wait a minute. I need to chill out because I think ruling out Libba for 300k is wrong, but Crouch is just so much better for 420k?

Have a read over GL's post again, and then tell me I am still wrong for saying people who think Libba is not a good pick is wrong but Brad Crouch is a good pick

Not sure how you can say Greene is locked in everyone's side if he gets through one game after that too. Because he's so reliable, unlike Libba?




GoldDigger

Settles, Gretels. Seemples.

hawkers65

#335
Greene is a forward? He doesnt have to do anything special with the lack of options there. People are struggling to find a third premium let alone another mid pricer. Libba has several mid pricers to compete with as well as people opting to run deep in the mids cause theres so many good premiums. Not to mention he is an AA in his prime. How did you just compare them?

"and then tell me I am still wrong" - tell me where i ever said anyone was wrong. My point exactly is no one is wrong. Its fantasy. Everyone has different opinions and there is no right and wrong till the 23 games are done. Would be boring if we all picked the same players and agreed.

Why are people wound so tight. Chillax. Footy is a hobby, shouldnt be stressing you fellas out this much.

eaglesman

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 08:45:49 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 05:57:16 PM
Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 05:26:09 PM
People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Wait a minute. I need to chill out because I think ruling out Libba for 300k is wrong, but Crouch is just so much better for 420k?

Have a read over GL's post again, and then tell me I am still wrong for saying people who think Libba is not a good pick is wrong but Brad Crouch is a good pick

Not sure how you can say Greene is locked in everyone's side if he gets through one game after that too. Because he's so reliable, unlike Libba?

Libba belongs in teams that also pick Darcy Moore. The irrelevant coaches group ... 100/1 to average 90 ....

elephants

Quote from: eaglesman on March 07, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 08:45:49 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 05:57:16 PM
Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 05:26:09 PM
People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Wait a minute. I need to chill out because I think ruling out Libba for 300k is wrong, but Crouch is just so much better for 420k?

Have a read over GL's post again, and then tell me I am still wrong for saying people who think Libba is not a good pick is wrong but Brad Crouch is a good pick

Not sure how you can say Greene is locked in everyone's side if he gets through one game after that too. Because he's so reliable, unlike Libba?

Libba belongs in teams that also pick Darcy Moore. The irrelevant coaches group ... 100/1 to average 90 ....

More baseless pots, contribution.

GoLions

Quote from: elephants on March 07, 2019, 10:06:53 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 07, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 08:45:49 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 05:57:16 PM
Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 05:26:09 PM
People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Wait a minute. I need to chill out because I think ruling out Libba for 300k is wrong, but Crouch is just so much better for 420k?

Have a read over GL's post again, and then tell me I am still wrong for saying people who think Libba is not a good pick is wrong but Brad Crouch is a good pick

Not sure how you can say Greene is locked in everyone's side if he gets through one game after that too. Because he's so reliable, unlike Libba?

Libba belongs in teams that also pick Darcy Moore. The irrelevant coaches group ... 100/1 to average 90 ....

More baseless pots, contribution.
I told you before ele, these eagles fans have no clue, just ignore them mate

eaglesman

Quote from: elephants on March 07, 2019, 10:06:53 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 07, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 08:45:49 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 05:57:16 PM
Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 05:26:09 PM
People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Wait a minute. I need to chill out because I think ruling out Libba for 300k is wrong, but Crouch is just so much better for 420k?

Have a read over GL's post again, and then tell me I am still wrong for saying people who think Libba is not a good pick is wrong but Brad Crouch is a good pick

Not sure how you can say Greene is locked in everyone's side if he gets through one game after that too. Because he's so reliable, unlike Libba?

Libba belongs in teams that also pick Darcy Moore. The irrelevant coaches group ... 100/1 to average 90 ....

More baseless pots, contribution.

Stats already been quoted above. Why repeat?
I have no idea who you are or if you have any real claim a past SuperCoach ranking (i can send you a photo of my SuperCoach winners cheque if you like) but I’m sure you would be right up there in the rankings of the irrelevant coaches group though. So bravo mate bravo for that.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: eaglesman on March 07, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
Libba belongs in teams that also pick Darcy Moore. The irrelevant coaches group ... 100/1 to average 90 ....


GoldDigger

Quote from: eaglesman on March 07, 2019, 10:09:59 PM... i can send you a photo of my SuperCoach winners cheque if you like ...
Why not post a copy right here, right now?

GoldDigger

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 10:13:26 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 07, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
Libba belongs in teams that also pick Darcy Moore. The irrelevant coaches group ... 100/1 to average 90 ....


Hmmm!

hawkers65

Quote from: GoldDigger on March 07, 2019, 10:15:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 10:13:26 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 07, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
Libba belongs in teams that also pick Darcy Moore. The irrelevant coaches group ... 100/1 to average 90 ....


Hmmm!

Hahahaha bang, probably would just call it an early night and pretend i never saw this if i was him. No coming back from that

Colley Dogs

#344
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 08:45:49 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 07, 2019, 06:36:02 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 05:57:16 PM
Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 05:26:09 PM
People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Wait a minute. I need to chill out because I think ruling out Libba for 300k is wrong, but Crouch is just so much better for 420k?

Have a read over GL's post again, and then tell me I am still wrong for saying people who think Libba is not a good pick is wrong but Brad Crouch is a good pick

Not sure how you can say Greene is locked in everyone's side if he gets through one game after that too. Because he's so reliable, unlike Libba?

Completely agree with you, RaisyDaisy.

IMO... it's a mistake to compare B Crouch to Libba. The reason why everyone's comparing B Crouch to Libba is that it's a choice of one or the other (assuming you're wanting a mid-pricer at M5).

The error here is viewing it in terms of points, rather than function.

If you look at it in terms of function, B Crouch needs to be a keeper to be a good pick. In my opinion, a solid cash cow is a player who makes 150K. In the case of B Crouch, 150K places him at 570K. If he's scoring well enough to rise to 570K, I'm not selling him. He's a keeper, and only a keeper. So you choose B Crouch based on his potential to be a keeper, and nothing less. Anything less is a failure.

Libba, on the other hand, is a cash cow. He doesn't need to average 108 to be a successful pick. He only needs to make me 150k. If he scores in a manner that sees him rise to 450K or above, happy days. If he pulls something out of the hat and becomes a keeper, bonus! Unlike B Crouch, he doesn't need to be a keeper to be a good pick.

On this alone, Libba is ahead. Not because he's a better pick in terms of points returned, but because he's a safer pick in terms of having a higher probability of realising his function.

The thing about Libba... if you do go with him you need to be clear on your strategy about what you need him to be. I want a minimum 13 keepers in my starting line-up. I currently have 13 keepers, excluding Libba. If Libba turns out to be a keeper - happy days - I have 14 keepers.

Following this logic.. if I need M5 to be a keeper I'm not selecting Libba. I'd rather find the extra cash and go with B Crouch, or better still, Taranto or Steele, or better still... M Crouch.

It's not a question of who's better or worse, but rather who has the higher EV. Libba can be both a keeper and a cash cow, and because of this he has a higher EV than B Crouch, who can only be selected to be a keeper.

An easy decision for me: Libba at M5; with S Walsh at M6 + 2 Rookies. In my view, the lock-stock optimal midfield structure.