Mid Price Options 2019

[Bully]

Revisiting all the midpricers I'm looking at again and now I feel the only ones I can trust will be Libba, Williams, Greene and Roberton as I think they can become keepers.

Crouch - injury risk, still can put in average scores, doubt he'll be a keeper so downgrade to Walsh.
Newman/Smith - prone to stinkers and I want consistency in my back line so I'm willing to pay up.
Miles - Prone to stinkers, not a keeper see Crouch.
Mills/McGrath - too many doubts on their positions.

Leaning towards paying up for the rooks with better job security with the spare money.

Crouch > Libba

Libba + 120k > Crouch

Sure but that wasn't what the post was referring to, it was about keeper numbers, and Crouch is more likely to be a keeper than Libba imo.

Not sure brad crouch easily wins that battle EASILY

And he will EASILY Be a keeper.

last 12 healthy games from the guys

Crouch: 107 average
Liberatore 76 average

Liberatore pumped out 1 score better then that whole patches average from Crouch .

You could even go back further & a similar pattern would emerge. People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

[RaisyDaisy]

Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

[AaronKirk]

Gone real cheap in defense which has allowed me (at this stage) to bring in Taranto as M6 with rookies at M7,M8.

Crouch and Miles still under consideration depending how the rookie situation pans out. No interest in Libba.

[hawkers65]

Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

[SilverLion]

Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Well saying a guy with proven scoring history who is only 300k isn't a good pick is wrong at any time of the season IMO. May not be a great pick, but can't be a bad pick just because he's had issues over the years.

Doesn't have to have his head screwed on right to play good footy, plenty of players have proven that over the years.

[hawkers65]

Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Well saying a guy with proven scoring history who is only 300k isn't a good pick is wrong at any time of the season IMO. May not be a great pick, but can't be a bad pick just because he's had issues over the years.

Doesn't have to have his head screwed on right to play good footy, plenty of players have proven that over the years.

Wait so if he played 18 games for an average of 79 like in his last year of footy that isnt a bad pick? Spending 300k on a bloke who averages 79 in the mids would be a fat fat L.

[SilverLion]

Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Well saying a guy with proven scoring history who is only 300k isn't a good pick is wrong at any time of the season IMO. May not be a great pick, but can't be a bad pick just because he's had issues over the years.

Doesn't have to have his head screwed on right to play good footy, plenty of players have proven that over the years.

Wait so if he played 18 games for an average of 79 like in his last year of footy that isnt a bad pick? Spending 300k on a bloke who averages 79 in the mids would be a fat fat L.

"Its March". He could average 60 and be a terrible pick or 110 and be a fantastic pick, thats besides the point. We don't know what he will average, but based on his scoring history and price, theres no arguement anyone can make to say he is a bad pick at this stage. Hindsight is 20-20, but you can't just declare him a bad pick from the start.

[hawkers65]

Greene confirmed in. If he gets through a decent amount of TOG surely he is locked in everyones side now.

[GoLions]

Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Well saying a guy with proven scoring history who is only 300k isn't a good pick is wrong at any time of the season IMO. May not be a great pick, but can't be a bad pick just because he's had issues over the years.

Doesn't have to have his head screwed on right to play good footy, plenty of players have proven that over the years.

Wait so if he played 18 games for an average of 79 like in his last year of footy that isnt a bad pick? Spending 300k on a bloke who averages 79 in the mids would be a fat fat L.

Went 111 last week

Last year he got injured a few mins into the game in round 1 and missed the whole season after going 99 and 123 in the two JLT games

2017 Libba was averaging almost 100 in the first 5 weeks before Mumford slammed his head into the ground. Was average after that and then got used as a tagger later in the season which killed his scores most of the time. That was not a 'healthy' Libba, concussion flowers you up for a lot longer than people think, and then being used as a tagger later on also didn't help

2016 he averaged 90 (a tick over 94 without injured games, which includes a 72 from 29% TOG)

2015 missed with injury

2014 averaged 110

2013 averaged 107

2012 averaged 83 (2nd year, but averaged 89 unsubbed)



I don't have him locked in by any means, but there is a lot of merit in the pick, will see how he goes against the Saints this weekend

[hawkers65]

Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Well saying a guy with proven scoring history who is only 300k isn't a good pick is wrong at any time of the season IMO. May not be a great pick, but can't be a bad pick just because he's had issues over the years.

Doesn't have to have his head screwed on right to play good footy, plenty of players have proven that over the years.

Wait so if he played 18 games for an average of 79 like in his last year of footy that isnt a bad pick? Spending 300k on a bloke who averages 79 in the mids would be a fat fat L.

Went 111 last week

Last year he got injured a few mins into the game in round 1 and missed the whole season after going 99 and 123 in the two JLT games

2017 Libba was averaging almost 100 in the first 5 weeks before Mumford slammed his head into the ground. Was average after that and then got used as a tagger later in the season which killed his scores most of the time. That was not a 'healthy' Libba, concussion flowers you up for a lot longer than people think, and then being used as a tagger later on also didn't help

2016 he averaged 90 (a tick over 94 without injured games, which includes a 72 from 29% TOG)

2015 missed with injury

2014 averaged 110

2013 averaged 107

2012 averaged 83 (2nd year, but averaged 89 unsubbed)



I don't have him locked in by any means, but there is a lot of merit in the pick, will see how he goes against the Saints this weekend

Thats another reason, his 113 came against comfortably the worst midfield. Saints arent much better. Wouldve been nice to see it against a semi decent side for R1.

[SilverLion]

Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Well saying a guy with proven scoring history who is only 300k isn't a good pick is wrong at any time of the season IMO. May not be a great pick, but can't be a bad pick just because he's had issues over the years.

Doesn't have to have his head screwed on right to play good footy, plenty of players have proven that over the years.

Wait so if he played 18 games for an average of 79 like in his last year of footy that isnt a bad pick? Spending 300k on a bloke who averages 79 in the mids would be a fat fat L.

Went 111 last week

Last year he got injured a few mins into the game in round 1 and missed the whole season after going 99 and 123 in the two JLT games

2017 Libba was averaging almost 100 in the first 5 weeks before Mumford slammed his head into the ground. Was average after that and then got used as a tagger later in the season which killed his scores most of the time. That was not a 'healthy' Libba, concussion flowers you up for a lot longer than people think, and then being used as a tagger later on also didn't help

2016 he averaged 90 (a tick over 94 without injured games, which includes a 72 from 29% TOG)

2015 missed with injury

2014 averaged 110

2013 averaged 107

2012 averaged 83 (2nd year, but averaged 89 unsubbed)



I don't have him locked in by any means, but there is a lot of merit in the pick, will see how he goes against the Saints this weekend

Thats another reason, his 113 came against comfortably the worst midfield. Saints arent much better. Wouldve been nice to see it against a semi decent side for R1.

Whilst I agree it would've been nice to see it against a better team, how can him scoring 113 against GC in the JLT be another reason not to pick him? He got through the game, regardless of his score or the opposition, that was the main concern. Will be the same for him, as well as Greene (and probs others) this week.

[hawkers65]

It's not your night mate ;) Give up. I never said that

[GoLions]

Keep choosing to ignore important information, that's fine

Don't know how many times I can say Libba was an absolute mess for a couple of years and probably wasn't even mentally fit to be playing AFL, but keep using his scores during that time to justify your Crouch love - we'll see come seasons end how it all pans out

People forget Libba has been irrelevent for nearly 5 years.

Brad Crouch hasn't been any better. At least Libba has proven he can bang out 105+ over 50 games

Again, I like Brad Crouch as a player and he could go 105+, but to suggest Libba is not a good pick at 300k is just wrong

Chill out mate... And its March mate, nothing is wrong or right. Libba is a loose cannon, something isn right in that blokes head at the best of times

Well saying a guy with proven scoring history who is only 300k isn't a good pick is wrong at any time of the season IMO. May not be a great pick, but can't be a bad pick just because he's had issues over the years.

Doesn't have to have his head screwed on right to play good footy, plenty of players have proven that over the years.

Wait so if he played 18 games for an average of 79 like in his last year of footy that isnt a bad pick? Spending 300k on a bloke who averages 79 in the mids would be a fat fat L.

Went 111 last week

Last year he got injured a few mins into the game in round 1 and missed the whole season after going 99 and 123 in the two JLT games

2017 Libba was averaging almost 100 in the first 5 weeks before Mumford slammed his head into the ground. Was average after that and then got used as a tagger later in the season which killed his scores most of the time. That was not a 'healthy' Libba, concussion flowers you up for a lot longer than people think, and then being used as a tagger later on also didn't help

2016 he averaged 90 (a tick over 94 without injured games, which includes a 72 from 29% TOG)

2015 missed with injury

2014 averaged 110

2013 averaged 107

2012 averaged 83 (2nd year, but averaged 89 unsubbed)



I don't have him locked in by any means, but there is a lot of merit in the pick, will see how he goes against the Saints this weekend

Thats another reason, his 113 came against comfortably the worst midfield. Saints arent much better. Wouldve been nice to see it against a semi decent side for R1.

What is it another reason for then?

[SilverLion]

It's not your night mate ;) Give up. I never said that

I mean you literally started your last post with "That's another reason". I'm not sure how else that can be interpreted.

And Fwiw, you could've saved us this whole discussion if ya just said "I don't like Libba and that's why I don't recommend picking him.", because that's definitely the vibe I'm getting.

Have a good evening.

[hawkers65]

Another reason to not be convinced he is passed the toxicity of the last 4 years yet. If a 113 against a VFL equivalent side is enough to convince you he is back then fair play.  I havent said he is a good or bad pick. I came in cause you said he "CANT be a bad pick"

I've personally never met the man. Cant say i dont like him.