Mid Price Options 2019

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RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Ringo on March 15, 2019, 09:02:15 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on March 15, 2019, 12:42:49 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 14, 2019, 11:39:22 PM
Anyone know what day the giants are having their intra club game? Really keen to hear how Williams and Greene do. Unfortunately every damn article on their site is about the women's team

Anything on their Facebook page
Are you sure they are having one. Know Lions are but that is because they gave players 4 days off previously under the players agreement.

Yes they're having one

You'd think nearly every club is

They're intras, not exactly something clubs would advertise online - not like they want a crowd, just internal scratch matches basically

bkimm32

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Quote from: GoLions on March 14, 2019, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 14, 2019, 07:07:32 PM
am i the only one heavily considering treloar?
Why are we discussing Treloar in the mid-pricers thread haha
Oops! Lol. This forum isn't the best to navigate.


How about we discuss Dom Sheed then?
I'm buying into the pre season hype. Should finally be a regular in the WC midfield this season and we all know what he's capable when given the chance (GF day). He was labeled the best 'pure footballer' in his draft year and I'm not sure I can disagree with that. Slower than paint drying, but fortunately for us athleticism isn't taken into account for SuperCoach scores. Could see him nearing 30 touches a game this year in that fast paced midfield. He's attacking, he's defensive, plays inside/out, he's a lovely user of the ball and I think he will be a 110+ scorer on the season.

He has had a cleaner run of health than the simarly priced Libba and i think he outscores him regardless. I am absolutely wrapped he's in only 13% of teams.

LaHug

Quote from: bkimm32 on March 15, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: GoLions on March 14, 2019, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 14, 2019, 07:07:32 PM
am i the only one heavily considering treloar?
Why are we discussing Treloar in the mid-pricers thread haha
Oops! Lol. This forum isn't the best to navigate.


How about we discuss Dom Sheed then?
I'm buying into the pre season hype. Should finally be a regular in the WC midfield this season and we all know what he's capable when given the chance (GF day). He was labeled the best 'pure footballer' in his draft year and I'm not sure I can disagree with that. Slower than paint drying, but fortunately for us athleticism isn't taken into account for SuperCoach scores. Could see him nearing 30 touches a game this year in that fast paced midfield. He's attacking, he's defensive, plays inside/out, he's a lovely user of the ball and I think he will be a 110+ scorer on the season.

He has had a cleaner run of health than the simarly priced Libba and i think he outscores him regardless. I am absolutely wrapped he's in only 13% of teams.

There's almost a $100k difference between Libba and Sheed so I don't think they're similarly priced. However, he's cheaper than B Crouch and could score similarly if you wanted to go down that path.

jvalles69

Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 15, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: GoLions on March 14, 2019, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 14, 2019, 07:07:32 PM
am i the only one heavily considering treloar?
Why are we discussing Treloar in the mid-pricers thread haha
Oops! Lol. This forum isn't the best to navigate.


How about we discuss Dom Sheed then?
I'm buying into the pre season hype. Should finally be a regular in the WC midfield this season and we all know what he's capable when given the chance (GF day). He was labeled the best 'pure footballer' in his draft year and I'm not sure I can disagree with that. Slower than paint drying, but fortunately for us athleticism isn't taken into account for SuperCoach scores. Could see him nearing 30 touches a game this year in that fast paced midfield. He's attacking, he's defensive, plays inside/out, he's a lovely user of the ball and I think he will be a 110+ scorer on the season.

He has had a cleaner run of health than the simarly priced Libba and i think he outscores him regardless. I am absolutely wrapped he's in only 13% of teams.

There's almost a $100k difference between Libba and Sheed so I don't think they're similarly priced. However, he's cheaper than B Crouch and could score similarly if you wanted to go down that path.

13% is waaaayyyyy higher than I thought.  Locked in AF, SC not so much, but he will definitely benefit from the increase in confidence and being basically invisible due to the other mids.

bkimm32

Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 15, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: GoLions on March 14, 2019, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 14, 2019, 07:07:32 PM
am i the only one heavily considering treloar?
Why are we discussing Treloar in the mid-pricers thread haha
Oops! Lol. This forum isn't the best to navigate.


How about we discuss Dom Sheed then?
I'm buying into the pre season hype. Should finally be a regular in the WC midfield this season and we all know what he's capable when given the chance (GF day). He was labeled the best 'pure footballer' in his draft year and I'm not sure I can disagree with that. Slower than paint drying, but fortunately for us athleticism isn't taken into account for SuperCoach scores. Could see him nearing 30 touches a game this year in that fast paced midfield. He's attacking, he's defensive, plays inside/out, he's a lovely user of the ball and I think he will be a 110+ scorer on the season.

He has had a cleaner run of health than the simarly priced Libba and i think he outscores him regardless. I am absolutely wrapped he's in only 13% of teams.

There's almost a $100k difference between Libba and Sheed so I don't think they're similarly priced. However, he's cheaper than B Crouch and could score similarly if you wanted to go down that path.
Can't trust b crouches body

LaHug

Quote from: bkimm32 on March 15, 2019, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 15, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: GoLions on March 14, 2019, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 14, 2019, 07:07:32 PM
am i the only one heavily considering treloar?
Why are we discussing Treloar in the mid-pricers thread haha
Oops! Lol. This forum isn't the best to navigate.


How about we discuss Dom Sheed then?
I'm buying into the pre season hype. Should finally be a regular in the WC midfield this season and we all know what he's capable when given the chance (GF day). He was labeled the best 'pure footballer' in his draft year and I'm not sure I can disagree with that. Slower than paint drying, but fortunately for us athleticism isn't taken into account for SuperCoach scores. Could see him nearing 30 touches a game this year in that fast paced midfield. He's attacking, he's defensive, plays inside/out, he's a lovely user of the ball and I think he will be a 110+ scorer on the season.

He has had a cleaner run of health than the simarly priced Libba and i think he outscores him regardless. I am absolutely wrapped he's in only 13% of teams.

There's almost a $100k difference between Libba and Sheed so I don't think they're similarly priced. However, he's cheaper than B Crouch and could score similarly if you wanted to go down that path.
Can't trust b crouches body

I meant swapping out B Crouch for Sheed has merit. If you don't have Crouch already, I'd only get Sheed by moving on a premium or a rookie. I just think Libba is way better value.

Wanderer

Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 15, 2019, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 15, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: GoLions on March 14, 2019, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 14, 2019, 07:07:32 PM
am i the only one heavily considering treloar?
Why are we discussing Treloar in the mid-pricers thread haha
Oops! Lol. This forum isn't the best to navigate.


How about we discuss Dom Sheed then?
I'm buying into the pre season hype. Should finally be a regular in the WC midfield this season and we all know what he's capable when given the chance (GF day). He was labeled the best 'pure footballer' in his draft year and I'm not sure I can disagree with that. Slower than paint drying, but fortunately for us athleticism isn't taken into account for SuperCoach scores. Could see him nearing 30 touches a game this year in that fast paced midfield. He's attacking, he's defensive, plays inside/out, he's a lovely user of the ball and I think he will be a 110+ scorer on the season.

He has had a cleaner run of health than the simarly priced Libba and i think he outscores him regardless. I am absolutely wrapped he's in only 13% of teams.

There's almost a $100k difference between Libba and Sheed so I don't think they're similarly priced. However, he's cheaper than B Crouch and could score similarly if you wanted to go down that path.
Can't trust b crouches body

I meant swapping out B Crouch for Sheed has merit. If you don't have Crouch already, I'd only get Sheed by moving on a premium or a rookie. I just think Libba is way better value.
B.Crouch has massive risk written all over him. Sheed is an ok choice but won't be top 10 so needs to generate cash, but Libba gives good value and the money spent elsewhere comes in handy.

bkimm32

Quote from: Wanderer on March 15, 2019, 01:13:17 PM
Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 15, 2019, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 15, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: GoLions on March 14, 2019, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 14, 2019, 07:07:32 PM
am i the only one heavily considering treloar?
Why are we discussing Treloar in the mid-pricers thread haha
Oops! Lol. This forum isn't the best to navigate.


How about we discuss Dom Sheed then?
I'm buying into the pre season hype. Should finally be a regular in the WC midfield this season and we all know what he's capable when given the chance (GF day). He was labeled the best 'pure footballer' in his draft year and I'm not sure I can disagree with that. Slower than paint drying, but fortunately for us athleticism isn't taken into account for SuperCoach scores. Could see him nearing 30 touches a game this year in that fast paced midfield. He's attacking, he's defensive, plays inside/out, he's a lovely user of the ball and I think he will be a 110+ scorer on the season.

He has had a cleaner run of health than the simarly priced Libba and i think he outscores him regardless. I am absolutely wrapped he's in only 13% of teams.

There's almost a $100k difference between Libba and Sheed so I don't think they're similarly priced. However, he's cheaper than B Crouch and could score similarly if you wanted to go down that path.
Can't trust b crouches body

I meant swapping out B Crouch for Sheed has merit. If you don't have Crouch already, I'd only get Sheed by moving on a premium or a rookie. I just think Libba is way better value.
B.Crouch has massive risk written all over him. Sheed is an ok choice but won't be top 10 so needs to generate cash, but Libba gives good value and the money spent elsewhere comes in handy.
I think Sheed could possibly become top 10. I think he's due for a massive breakout season. I think he will be around the 105-110 mark.. so probably just short of top 10, but he should jump up 100k (quicker than most rookies) while giving you tonnes, to trade up to a super prem. Similar to O'Meara (I think it was?) last season. I don't believe every mid pricer has to be a keeper. You pick them for a chance to be a keeper, and if not then worst case scenario they can be a great stepping stone for upgrades, while still giving you good output along the way.

Libba is great value, but I don't trust him for the same reasons as B Crouch.


I'm happy starting Sheed at this point. Worst case if he starts slow, and Libba comes out with 120s I'll burn a trade and pocket the cash.

Ricochet

Quote from: quinny88 on March 14, 2019, 11:39:22 PM
Anyone know what day the giants are having their intra club game? Really keen to hear how Williams and Greene do. Unfortunately every damn article on their site is about the women's team
https://m.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2019-03-15/greene-ready-and-raring-for-2019?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=vanity&utm_campaign=Rd1Greene

Saturday mate

Money Shot

after having 6-7 mid pricers at one stage I have went back to Williams, Smith and Greene as well as Moore If you count him as a midpricer. Team looks a lot more solid.

Wanderer

Every time I think I have reduced the mid pricers as much as possible they keep finding their way back in. Mid pricers come with risk and the way I see it you are compounding that risk the more of them you have, but they are extremely tempting.........

RaisyDaisy

Toby Greene

"The build-up has been a lot different, I've done a good eight weeks of training now, so I'm very confident in my fitness and my ability to perform," he said.

"Last year was more like a one-week pre-season.

"It's been good to get some continuity over the last eight weeks and I'm extremely confident with where I'm at.

"I felt better than what I thought I would (last week), it's always a blow in that first quarter back, but I felt really good."

hawkers65

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 16, 2019, 04:12:00 PM
Toby Greene

"The build-up has been a lot different, I've done a good eight weeks of training now, so I'm very confident in my fitness and my ability to perform," he said.

"Last year was more like a one-week pre-season.

"It's been good to get some continuity over the last eight weeks and I'm extremely confident with where I'm at.

"I felt better than what I thought I would (last week), it's always a blow in that first quarter back, but I felt really good."

Throw away the key

walloo44

i really cannot decide on Brodie Smith this year. 330k for someone who can average 90 odd and fill my d6 is super enticing, the kick in role seems to suit him, Adelaide look poised to bounce back, and he is owned by so many that it mitigates the risk. HOWEVER,

he has nearly no scoring history to suggest he can average even close to what people are expecting including myself. i constantly see him in my team and go "ok thats a 90 keeper who will fill my d6, worst case he gets to byes averaging 90 and i upgrade to a proven premo", but realistically i look and see him as a 80 average player, in a SC friendly role who will have some good days and plenty of mediocre ones, not someone who i can rely on for overall or for league wins.

so the issue is do i squeeze in the cash to upgrade him to someone i can trust and is proven or is defence far to speculative that he's worth riding and finding the cash to offload should he flop for me and a third of SC'ers.


RaisyDaisy

Quote from: walloo44 on March 16, 2019, 05:34:05 PM
i really cannot decide on Brodie Smith this year. 330k for someone who can average 90 odd and fill my d6 is super enticing, the kick in role seems to suit him, Adelaide look poised to bounce back, and he is owned by so many that it mitigates the risk. HOWEVER,

he has nearly no scoring history to suggest he can average even close to what people are expecting including myself. i constantly see him in my team and go "ok thats a 90 keeper who will fill my d6, worst case he gets to byes averaging 90 and i upgrade to a proven premo", but realistically i look and see him as a 80 average player, in a SC friendly role who will have some good days and plenty of mediocre ones, not someone who i can rely on for overall or for league wins.

so the issue is do i squeeze in the cash to upgrade him to someone i can trust and is proven or is defence far to speculative that he's worth riding and finding the cash to offload should he flop for me and a third of SC'ers.

I'm feeling the exact same

No doubt he's looked good, and the Crows should bounce back and I can see his role being SC friendly, but I just don't want to be stuck with a mid pricer who doesn't work out

Imagine he comes out and starts the year with a couple of scores in the 70's. What do you do? First instinct is to trade, but then you notice he won't lose cash so you give him another chance, and then next thing you know you're stuck with him and losing points every week

Of course it could be the flip side too - he could come out with a few 90+ scores and you're cheering

I think it's just going to come down to the structure I end up settling on. Like Toby Greene, Smith is also someone we can grab at Round 3 if we don't start him so it shouldn't be a massive loss either way, and for that reason I am probably leaning towards not starting him, and then if he looks great after 2 games I'll bring him in