Mid Price Options 2019

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Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 07, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 01:47:57 PM
Revisiting all the midpricers I'm looking at again and now I feel the only ones I can trust will be Libba, Williams, Greene and Roberton as I think they can become keepers.

Crouch - injury risk, still can put in average scores, doubt he'll be a keeper so downgrade to Walsh.
Newman/Smith - prone to stinkers and I want consistency in my back line so I'm willing to pay up.
Miles - Prone to stinkers, not a keeper see Crouch.
Mills/McGrath - too many doubts on their positions.

Leaning towards paying up for the rooks with better job security with the spare money.
Crouch > Libba

Libba + 120k > Crouch

Williams, Roberton, Libba and Greene are the only ones I am considering - all guys with proven prem history

The rest are all breakout contenders, and I'm done playing that game

Reckon Crouch an outside chance to be a keeper, Libba zero chance, downward trajectory with an abysmal 79 in 2017. Think it will be more of the same.

jvalles69

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 07, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 01:47:57 PM
Revisiting all the midpricers I'm looking at again and now I feel the only ones I can trust will be Libba, Williams, Greene and Roberton as I think they can become keepers.

Crouch - injury risk, still can put in average scores, doubt he'll be a keeper so downgrade to Walsh.
Newman/Smith - prone to stinkers and I want consistency in my back line so I'm willing to pay up.
Miles - Prone to stinkers, not a keeper see Crouch.
Mills/McGrath - too many doubts on their positions.

Leaning towards paying up for the rooks with better job security with the spare money.
Crouch > Libba

Libba + 120k > Crouch

Williams, Roberton, Libba and Greene are the only ones I am considering - all guys with proven prem history

The rest are all breakout contenders, and I'm done playing that game

Reckon Crouch an outside chance to be a keeper, Libba zero chance, downward trajectory with an abysmal 79 in 2017. Think it will be more of the same.

Yeah you might be right...getting Crouch, Libba or Miles right could be crucial...or avoid and go up to a Zerrett/Sloane type.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 07, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 01:47:57 PM
Revisiting all the midpricers I'm looking at again and now I feel the only ones I can trust will be Libba, Williams, Greene and Roberton as I think they can become keepers.

Crouch - injury risk, still can put in average scores, doubt he'll be a keeper so downgrade to Walsh.
Newman/Smith - prone to stinkers and I want consistency in my back line so I'm willing to pay up.
Miles - Prone to stinkers, not a keeper see Crouch.
Mills/McGrath - too many doubts on their positions.

Leaning towards paying up for the rooks with better job security with the spare money.
Crouch > Libba

Libba + 120k > Crouch

Williams, Roberton, Libba and Greene are the only ones I am considering - all guys with proven prem history

The rest are all breakout contenders, and I'm done playing that game

Reckon Crouch an outside chance to be a keeper, Libba zero chance, downward trajectory with an abysmal 79 in 2017. Think it will be more of the same.

Yeah you might be right...getting Crouch, Libba or Miles right could be crucial...or avoid and go up to a Zerrett/Sloane type.

Agree to disagree

I reckon Libba can match Crouch easily. I don't give two hoots about Libba's 79 either - known fact he was not in good place during those times and mentally had a lot of issues.

Came out last year and put up something like 123 and 98 in both JLT's before going down, then went 111 on the weekend. The Libba of old is back, that I am certain of - just need to hope he avoids injury now because a fit Libba can easily go 100+

I'm not saying Brad Crouch can't, but the 120k difference is huge. Brad needs to be a keeper at his price, where as Libba doesn't

js19

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 07, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 01:47:57 PM
Revisiting all the midpricers I'm looking at again and now I feel the only ones I can trust will be Libba, Williams, Greene and Roberton as I think they can become keepers.

Crouch - injury risk, still can put in average scores, doubt he'll be a keeper so downgrade to Walsh.
Newman/Smith - prone to stinkers and I want consistency in my back line so I'm willing to pay up.
Miles - Prone to stinkers, not a keeper see Crouch.
Mills/McGrath - too many doubts on their positions.

Leaning towards paying up for the rooks with better job security with the spare money.
Crouch > Libba

Libba + 120k > Crouch

Williams, Roberton, Libba and Greene are the only ones I am considering - all guys with proven prem history

The rest are all breakout contenders, and I'm done playing that game

Reckon Crouch an outside chance to be a keeper, Libba zero chance, downward trajectory with an abysmal 79 in 2017. Think it will be more of the same.

Yeah you might be right...getting Crouch, Libba or Miles right could be crucial...or avoid and go up to a Zerrett/Sloane type.

Agree to disagree

I reckon Libba can match Crouch easily. I don't give two hoots about Libba's 79 either - known fact he was not in good place during those times and mentally had a lot of issues.

Came out last year and put up something like 123 and 98 in both JLT's before going down, then went 111 on the weekend. The Libba of old is back, that I am certain of - just need to hope he avoids injury now because a fit Libba can easily go 100+

I'm not saying Brad Crouch can't, but the 120k difference is huge. Brad needs to be a keeper at his price, where as Libba doesn't

Can see the argument for both tbh. Personally I think Libba is better bang for buck in general though.

Every year I try to avoid mid pricers, but always sucked in to a couple. That said, I think this year is different than most - a lot of fallen premium options, that most people would jump on if they got them at that price mid season. Some will be more value than others, but barring injuries I don’t think they’re as risky as wishing for a player to breakout for the first time.

jvalles69

Quote from: js19 on March 07, 2019, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 02:04:05 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 07, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 01:47:57 PM
Revisiting all the midpricers I'm looking at again and now I feel the only ones I can trust will be Libba, Williams, Greene and Roberton as I think they can become keepers.

Crouch - injury risk, still can put in average scores, doubt he'll be a keeper so downgrade to Walsh.
Newman/Smith - prone to stinkers and I want consistency in my back line so I'm willing to pay up.
Miles - Prone to stinkers, not a keeper see Crouch.
Mills/McGrath - too many doubts on their positions.

Leaning towards paying up for the rooks with better job security with the spare money.
Crouch > Libba

Libba + 120k > Crouch

Williams, Roberton, Libba and Greene are the only ones I am considering - all guys with proven prem history

The rest are all breakout contenders, and I'm done playing that game

Reckon Crouch an outside chance to be a keeper, Libba zero chance, downward trajectory with an abysmal 79 in 2017. Think it will be more of the same.

Yeah you might be right...getting Crouch, Libba or Miles right could be crucial...or avoid and go up to a Zerrett/Sloane type.

Agree to disagree

I reckon Libba can match Crouch easily. I don't give two hoots about Libba's 79 either - known fact he was not in good place during those times and mentally had a lot of issues.

Came out last year and put up something like 123 and 98 in both JLT's before going down, then went 111 on the weekend. The Libba of old is back, that I am certain of - just need to hope he avoids injury now because a fit Libba can easily go 100+

I'm not saying Brad Crouch can't, but the 120k difference is huge. Brad needs to be a keeper at his price, where as Libba doesn't

Can see the argument for both tbh. Personally I think Libba is better bang for buck in general though.

Every year I try to avoid mid pricers, but always sucked in to a couple. That said, I think this year is different than most - a lot of fallen premium options, that most people would jump on if they got them at that price mid season. Some will be more value than others, but barring injuries I don’t think they’re as risky as wishing for a player to breakout for the first time.

Now Steele has got my attention over both of them... :-\

RaisyDaisy

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Quote from: js19 on March 07, 2019, 02:36:26 PM
Can see the argument for both tbh. Personally I think Libba is better bang for buck in general though.

Every year I try to avoid mid pricers, but always sucked in to a couple. That said, I think this year is different than most - a lot of fallen premium options, that most people would jump on if they got them at that price mid season. Some will be more value than others, but barring injuries I don’t think they’re as risky as wishing for a player to breakout for the first time.

There are two types of Mid Pricers: Fallen Prems or Breakout Contenders

Fallen Prems are the ones I have no problem starting, because they're generally cheap due to injury. Greene, Williams, Roberton and Libba all have 2+ years of prem scoring, making them fallen prems

Crouch, Newman, Brodie Smith, Miles etc etc these are breakout contenders imo, and I've been burnt trying to get them right, and when there are fallen prems at the same price I see no reason to risk the breakout contender

Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 02:42:45 PM
Now Steele has got my attention over both of them... :-\

He's not a mid pricer :P


Bully

so who is grabbing both Crouch & Libba?

Bully

Just went over Libba's stats & he has 4 tons in his last 27 matches, think I'll pass.

quinny88

Has everyone gone off Miles? He was popular before JLT 1 but not seeing him much anymore.

He had 21 possessions and 68 SC points in just over half a game

Bully

Quote from: quinny88 on March 07, 2019, 04:13:52 PM
Has everyone gone off Miles? He was popular before JLT 1 but not seeing him much anymore.

He had 21 possessions and 68 SC points in just over half a game

Not a bad pick but probably doesn't have the upside of B.Crouch

eaglesman

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Quote from: TomK on March 07, 2019, 01:59:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 07, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 01:47:57 PM
Revisiting all the midpricers I'm looking at again and now I feel the only ones I can trust will be Libba, Williams, Greene and Roberton as I think they can become keepers.

Crouch - injury risk, still can put in average scores, doubt he'll be a keeper so downgrade to Walsh.
Newman/Smith - prone to stinkers and I want consistency in my back line so I'm willing to pay up.
Miles - Prone to stinkers, not a keeper see Crouch.
Mills/McGrath - too many doubts on their positions.

Leaning towards paying up for the rooks with better job security with the spare money.
Crouch > Libba
Libba + 120k > Crouch
Sure but that wasn't what the post was referring to, it was about keeper numbers, and Crouch is more likely to be a keeper than Libba imo.

Not sure brad crouch easily wins that battle EASILY

And he will EASILY Be a keeper.

jvalles69

Quote from: quinny88 on March 07, 2019, 04:13:52 PM
Has everyone gone off Miles? He was popular before JLT 1 but not seeing him much anymore.

He had 21 possessions and 68 SC points in just over half a game

I'm taking him in AF for sure, but SC is a bit tougher to fix if you get it wrong.

QuoteHe's not a mid pricer :P

Correct, but I have the cash to turn a Libba/Crouch into Steele!  :P

quinny88

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 04:25:52 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 07, 2019, 04:13:52 PM
Has everyone gone off Miles? He was popular before JLT 1 but not seeing him much anymore.

He had 21 possessions and 68 SC points in just over half a game

Not a bad pick but probably doesn't have the upside of B.Crouch

Doesn't have the likelihood of breaking down in round 3 either  :P
I like Crouch more but the extra bit of money saved getting Miles instead seems to help a lot in my side where things are tight


Bully

Quote from: quinny88 on March 07, 2019, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 04:25:52 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 07, 2019, 04:13:52 PM
Has everyone gone off Miles? He was popular before JLT 1 but not seeing him much anymore.

He had 21 possessions and 68 SC points in just over half a game

Not a bad pick but probably doesn't have the upside of B.Crouch

Doesn't have the likelihood of breaking down in round 3 either  :P
I like Crouch more but the extra bit of money saved getting Miles instead seems to help a lot in my side where things are tight

Fair enough, don't think Miles is a bad pick.

Holz

Quote from: eaglesman on March 07, 2019, 04:31:14 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 07, 2019, 01:59:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 07, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 07, 2019, 01:47:57 PM
Revisiting all the midpricers I'm looking at again and now I feel the only ones I can trust will be Libba, Williams, Greene and Roberton as I think they can become keepers.

Crouch - injury risk, still can put in average scores, doubt he'll be a keeper so downgrade to Walsh.
Newman/Smith - prone to stinkers and I want consistency in my back line so I'm willing to pay up.
Miles - Prone to stinkers, not a keeper see Crouch.
Mills/McGrath - too many doubts on their positions.

Leaning towards paying up for the rooks with better job security with the spare money.
Crouch > Libba
Libba + 120k > Crouch
Sure but that wasn't what the post was referring to, it was about keeper numbers, and Crouch is more likely to be a keeper than Libba imo.

Not sure brad crouch easily wins that battle EASILY

And he will EASILY Be a keeper.

last 12 healthy games from the guys

Crouch: 107 average
Liberatore 76 average

Liberatore pumped out 1 score better then that whole patches average from Crouch .