Mid Price Options 2019

[RaisyDaisy]

Pass on all of them

Fort an option for R3 if he gets named though

[ubeaut]

Yeah not very appealing options I know.
Just totally at a loss as who to pick at R2 beside Grundy R1.
Last season I was in the same boat, no option was screaming pick me, was dithering between Lycett and Goldstein and of course I picked Goldy.
Gawn takes up so much cash, but if Preuss wasn't there I'd lock him in. Preuss is there,however.
Kreuzer is a walking injury, so is Mummy who misses first 2 games.
Ryder no go with Lycett there.
If you pick Martin or Goldstein you're stuck with them while attending more pressing trades, which is fine if they match Gawn, but not if Gawn manages to be top 2 even with Preuss.
This year was stuck with Goldstein, even though he came good he was no match for Grundy.
A mid pricer ruck allows you to see who is the next best ruck and get them in, while maximising points elsewhere on field with the 300 - 400k u save

[shaker]

You can always use a corrective trade to fix R2 after the first couple of rounds if it dosen't work out , the only problem would be if you went the cheap option to start and spent the saved cash elsewhere and then wanting to upgrade to a more expensive ruck for this reason I will start with someone like Goldy at R2 ;)

[RaisyDaisy]

Starting a mid priced/cheap R2 does gives the advantage of using cash elsewhere and seeing who will eventuate into the best R2 option to upgrade later on as the season goes, but I cannot see a single decent option

Of the guys that are sub 300k, Vardy and Longer are two that have the best JS, but they are horrible scorers and in my opinion are not an option at all

Mummy at 320k would be the best placed for this option, but missing the first 2 games is a killer

That leaves Kreuzer and Sauce, but now we're over 400k and although that might still be "mid priced" it's too much to spend on guys you know will require to be traded up later on

If Darcy Fort gets named Round 1, the Mummy R2 Fort R3 I think is the only option that could work here

[shaker]

Hard for me to get enthused about Mummy not just the first 2 games missed it's also the whole year missed , 33 next year it just has alarm bells ringing for me

[GoLions]

So we know that most mid priced options usually end up being a trap, but if you do manage to pick the right one/s it can pay off big time

We seem to have quite a few this year, and fighting the temptation could be hard

DEF
Nic Newman $394,100 - too expensive
Jasper Pittard $365,700 - too showertard
Aaron Francis $350,900 - undecided
Brodie Smith $332,500 - slightly tempting
Dylan Roberton $297,500 - more tempting
Pearce Hanley $296,400 - too far past his best
Grant Birchall $205,200 - slightly tempting, but too much of a walking hospital

MID
Jack Viney $449,500 - too expensive
Brad Crouch $418,000 - too much not as good as his brother
Tom Rockliff $409,500 - tempting if he gets a new pair of shoulders
Aaron Hall $389,200 - too crap
Anthony Miles $342,000 - undecided
Dan Hannebery $326,100 - slightly tempting
Tom Liberatore $300,400 - too busy making an ashes hundred, but still tempting

RUC
Matthew Kreuzer $432,900 - needs hoff
Shane Mumford $320,200 - sausage

FWD
Toby Greene $354,600 - borderline lock
Joe Daniher $277,800 - borderline potato

Most of these guys don't interest me, but the ones I am personally looking at are

Birchall: If he lines up R1 then it's a no brainer - absolute lock
Hanners/Libba: Reckon I'll start with one of these, and Libba is the preferred choice for sure
Greene: If he has overcome his injuries then I think he has to start at that price

Other than them, the rest don't interest me. I know Joe D might be popular, but I see him being a slow burn and putting up a fair share of average scores so he's a pass for me

What Mid Price options are you looking at? Or are you passing on all of them and going GnR?

Inserted my thoughts above.

[RaisyDaisy]

If Toby Greene wasn't injured last year, and was say 500k this year, would you deem him fine for F3?

I feel like there's a real psychological barrier with the majority, myself included, thinking F3 for Greene is risky, or not solid enough,  but is it really?

I think the price is playing a big trick on us psychologically

All of the other mid priced options probably won't become keepers, which means they'll need to be upgraded and are stepping stones, but is Greene a legit keeper just at a bargain price, and more than fine at F3?

[crowls]

If Toby Greene wasn't injured last year, and was say 500k this year, would you deem him fine for F3?

I feel like there's a real psychological barrier with the majority, myself included, thinking F3 for Greene is risky, or not solid enough,  but is it really?

I think the price is playing a big trick on us psychologically

All of the other mid priced options probably won't become keepers, which means they'll need to be upgraded and are stepping stones, but is Greene a legit keeper just at a bargain price, and more than fine at F3?

Summed it up nicely for Greene.    Legit F3/F4      I have him behind Danger, Heeney, tom Lynch.    TL at Richmond if he is not stuck in the square can score strongly with a mid 90 avg.

[ubeaut]

If Toby Greene wasn't injured last year, and was say 500k this year, would you deem him fine for F3?

I feel like there's a real psychological barrier with the majority, myself included, thinking F3 for Greene is risky, or not solid enough,  but is it really?

I think the price is playing a big trick on us psychologically

All of the other mid priced options probably won't become keepers, which means they'll need to be upgraded and are stepping stones, but is Greene a legit keeper just at a bargain price, and more than fine at F3?

Snap! I was asking myself this very question too.
Then I realised the reason I deem Greene a risk at F3 for 300k but not so much at 500+k  (which sounds weird) is at 500+k if he goes down (and he does get injured /suspended a lot) it's an easy swap to another Premo.
At 300k, you're either stuck with a rookie at F3, or you make a forced downgrade elsewhere to get the cash to upgrade.
So ironically being cheaper makes him more of a risk. But at F4 not as much.

Don't get me wrong, I'm keen on him and starting him at F3 would make the rest of the team stronger, but don't think I can trust him.

[RaisyDaisy]

Yep, that's the worry - if he gets injured/rubbed out you're left with 2 prem forwards which wouldn't be fun

That said, if he can get through the first 2 months unscathed, which isn't a massive ask, then it could pay off as we could then bring in a fourth mid when we start upgrading

[quinny88]

I thought Greene was injured and wasn't even gonna start training till like feb? Or has that changed?

[RaisyDaisy]

I thought Greene was injured and wasn't even gonna start training till like feb? Or has that changed?

This was said two weeks ago

"Josh Kelly is easing back into training after a meniscus tear and hip issues during the season, while Greene’s surgery after only nine games last year puts him out until post-Christmas."

Found this too

"The Giants confirmed in a statement that surgery was now required because the injury “had failed to improve at the rate expected”.

Giants’ fitness boss David Joyce said: “It’s unfortunate that Toby has suffered this setback but by making this decision now, we don’t run the risk of him missing any games.”

“No doubt once the surgery has been completed, Toby will vigorously attack his rehab.”"

Found this about Joe D too, for those considering him

"In less than ideal news, Joe Daniher (osteitis pubis) is still struggling for full fitness."

That's turned me off Greene big time - not getting burnt by guys with interrupted preseasons

[Ricochet]

Hanners had a little hammy scare so need to keep an eye on that. Scan came back ok apparently

[quinny88]

I thought Greene was injured and wasn't even gonna start training till like feb? Or has that changed?

This was said two weeks ago

"Josh Kelly is easing back into training after a meniscus tear and hip issues during the season, while Greene’s surgery after only nine games last year puts him out until post-Christmas."

Found this too

"The Giants confirmed in a statement that surgery was now required because the injury “had failed to improve at the rate expected”.

Giants’ fitness boss David Joyce said: “It’s unfortunate that Toby has suffered this setback but by making this decision now, we don’t run the risk of him missing any games.”

“No doubt once the surgery has been completed, Toby will vigorously attack his rehab.”"

Found this about Joe D too, for those considering him

"In less than ideal news, Joe Daniher (osteitis pubis) is still struggling for full fitness."

That's turned me off Greene big time - not getting burnt by guys with interrupted preseasons

Sounds like a trap. I get guys like that every year and always regret it. He's injury prone as it is, let alone having missed most of the pre season. Pass on Green and Joe for me unless they are in full training when they come back from Christmas and have no further interruptions

[crowls]

I thought Greene was injured and wasn't even gonna start training till like feb? Or has that changed?

This was said two weeks ago

"Josh Kelly is easing back into training after a meniscus tear and hip issues during the season, while Greene’s surgery after only nine games last year puts him out until post-Christmas."

Found this too

"The Giants confirmed in a statement that surgery was now required because the injury “had failed to improve at the rate expected”.

Giants’ fitness boss David Joyce said: “It’s unfortunate that Toby has suffered this setback but by making this decision now, we don’t run the risk of him missing any games.”

“No doubt once the surgery has been completed, Toby will vigorously attack his rehab.”"

Found this about Joe D too, for those considering him

"In less than ideal news, Joe Daniher (osteitis pubis) is still struggling for full fitness."

That's turned me off Greene big time - not getting burnt by guys with interrupted preseasons

Sounds like a trap. I get guys like that every year and always regret it. He's injury prone as it is, let alone having missed most of the pre season. Pass on Green and Joe for me unless they are in full training when they come back from Christmas and have no further interruptions

This puts Greene on the nose,  looking at blake acres as replacement.    fyfe size player improved averages yoy and at 56 games is possibility for break out year to high 90s   so I see Geary being a year late on Acres getting the consistency.



Monday, 26 March 2018
St Kilda skipper Jarryn Geary says 2018 will be the year Blake Acres will step up his consistency as a midfielder."He's got some great tricks, he's a really good size, he's quick enough and he seems to get away with a lot of things that other players can't," Geary said.
"His next development is going to be his consistency.
"When he plays really well, he's really good for us, and his challenge is to bridge that gap between his best and worst performances."