Mid Price Options 2019

[shaker]

I asked about Callum Mills a few pages back and other than GL saying he was considering him, nothing else was mentioned

Well, I just came across this

AFL.com.au @AFLcomau
Callum Mills dominated in the midfield during the @sydneyswans match simulation on Friday morning.

FantasyFreako @FantasyFreako
Mills has trained with the midfield group over the pre-season and was used at centre bounces in match sim. #SuperCoach

That's because I'm the only smart person here

Guess that makes me a genius for being the first person to actually raise his name ;)

Ok this is preseason training so lets not get ahead of ourselves  ;D

[GoLions]

I asked about Callum Mills a few pages back and other than GL saying he was considering him, nothing else was mentioned

Well, I just came across this

AFL.com.au @AFLcomau
Callum Mills dominated in the midfield during the @sydneyswans match simulation on Friday morning.

FantasyFreako @FantasyFreako
Mills has trained with the midfield group over the pre-season and was used at centre bounces in match sim. #SuperCoach

That's because I'm the only smart person here

Guess that makes me a genius for being the first person to actually raise his name ;)

The genius would keep quiet about it :p

[Keeper27]

Blakely and milera has also been touted for a push in the midfield too.. and i feel better about Blakely's chance than Mills

[Mat0369]

Hanners numbers below broken into wins and losses. This includes all his scores and averages since 2012. Last year was an absolute nightmare

So I already had these numbers broken down heading into his premium season of 2015

Win

2012

34
55 (sub)
121
43
121
120
133
48 (sub)
70
94
82
119
71
80
104
88
70
118
141

Total: 1712
average: 90.1

2013

85
102
140
107
131
112 (draw)
113
129
84
93
122
145
87
73
47
111

Total: 1681
average: 105

2014

82
113
138
123
159
97
104
137
55 (injured)
54
65
104
140
76

Total: 1447
average: 103.4

Losses

2012

89
78
68
38
103
42

Total: 418
Average: 69.7

2013

97
43
112 (draw)
60
79
83
66

Total: 540
average: 77.1

2014

57
107
67
154
63

Total: 448
Average: 89.6


So you can see he significantly averages more in wins than losses at this point of his career, but the loss scores were travelling north and you could see some consistency in his game regardless if they won or lost

Here are the scores since with 2 huge seasons at 113 a piece.

Wins

2015

133
91
121
86
111
138
96
126
98
142
148
134
100
81
109
148

Total: 1862
Average: 116.375

2016

100*
121
125
114
136
107
110
126
113
86
106
76
144
136
131
116
93

Total: 1940
Average: 114.118

2017

118
134
137
101
66
97
75
73
105
96
109
117
82

Total: 1310
Average: 100.769

2018

81
67
52
76
46
58
67
82
47

Total:576
Average:64

Losses

2015

118
146
116
102
60
90

Total:632
Average:105.33

2016

129
138
92
123
68

Total:550
Average: 110

2017

52
71
112
95
112
103
115
74

Total: 734
Average: 91.75

2018

87
55
65
30
28

Total: 265
Average: 53

The numbers in losses are pretty scary last year. He wasn't fit, but I think the fact he is having yet another interrupted pre-season and is playing in a worse team should be enough to put a line through him. Even if he bounces back and has a middle ground to where he was 2 years ago and where he was this year, I don't think it's worth it

[Mat0369]

And Mills is a decent option, they need someone to replace Hanners and he has done the apprenticeship at HB before the knee. Probably makes sense for him to go into the guts. I'd probably expect something close to Heeney which is high 90's if he plays in the square. If he runs through as a traditional wing drop that to low 90's.

The backs actually have a lot of guys you could start at a discount price. You could probably grab Laird and 3 of Blakely, Mills, Smith, Willliams, Roberton, Witherden, Houil, Hanley, Hibberd and Newman. It would allow you to load up in the forward line/midfield or afford the two 700k rucks

[js19]

Every year I get sucked into picking midpricers that don't work out... Reality is 2, max 3 is still risky compared to GnR, but if you nail them you're golden.

They're so tempting though. Just did this mock-up using midpricers, and it looks pretty good (but is likely to fail miserably...)

Laird, Williams, Smith, Roberton, Birch, Hore (bench)

Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Brayshaw, B Crouch, Miles, Libba, Constable (bench)

Grundy, Mummy (Fort)

Danger, Dunk, Wingard, Kennedy, Greene, Cavarra (bench)

9 premo keepers, and 10 speculative middies. If Fort plays to cover Mummy, and rookies are dried up, it'd be mighty tempting

[enzedder]

Mids

Miles $342,000
Hannerbury $326,100
Libba $300,400

what are peoples thoughts on these guys??
can Hanners get to 90+ ?? is Miles the best option out of the 3??

Miles is the best of the three IMO. At 26 he is at his prime. He is now at a team where he is guaranteed not just to be a starting mid, but a crucial one for his team. He doesn't add depth. He is needed at the coal face in a team full of young bodies and starved of talent. At GWS and Richmond he was surrounded by talent.
At Richmond he played 55 of 57 games from mid 2014 to the end of 2016. In SC he went 90+ 34 times in that period. He averaged 100 in 2014, 97 in 2015 and 90 in 2016. Since then he has played 6 games. He struggled to break into the strong Richmond line up and found once he did he was sometimes the first out again.
At $342k he is priced at about a 63 point average.
He was drafted to have an immediate effect and with the intention of him playing as an inside mid from the outset.
Unlike Hannerbery and Libba he doesn't come with a history of injuries either. Games missed have been due to depth.
Lock him in.

Hannebery is cheap for good reason. He averaged 60 from 17 games last year. No 100+ games in that lot. In fact if you include his last 12 games of 2017 then he's only scored 3/29 100s. Yuck! Couple that lack of good scoring with injury history (corkies, knee knocks, hamstring strains, etc), including a pre season scare where a precautionary scan was reported and it's even more yuck. Most of his recent games were playing as a starting mid or on the wing. He just has not been the same player as he was. His role at the St.Kilda will likely to be the same as it was at the Swans. The Saints have Steele, Steven, Armitage and Dunstan who have done the bulk of the inside grunt work. If anything Dunstan and Armitage will be pushed out, not much will change for Hanners.
He is 28 next month and his early 2017 form was as good as it had ever been. That's not too long ago. There were many reports that he was playing injured last year. If he can recapture that then he is exactly what the Saints need as other than Steven, Steele, Gresham and Ross there's not many other Saints to get excited about. Pre Season games will help some make a decision but I've already made my mind up. Miles looks a lot surer to go 90+. Hanners might go 90+ and he is also more likely to miss games with injury.

Libba at $300k represents value. He's discounted down to around a 55 point average having only played the one game due to injury. And thereis that word. "Injury"....  2015 0 games / 2018 1 game
Before he missed the 2015 season he was a proven 100+ performer. After it he has been more of an 80/90 type.
I like him as a pick but he also has Macrae, Bontempelli, Dunkley and McLean who have done well in recent years as teammates and who may make his role and place in the team a little uncertain.

Miles>Daylight>Libba>Hanners is how I see it.

[Ringo]

With Hanners departure is it worth looking at Callum Mills in defence given the mid time he will get and entering 4th year in the system.
If he can get rid of his low scores well worth it.

[enzedder]

With Hanners departure is it worth looking at Callum Mills in defence given the mid time he will get and entering 4th year in the system.
If he can get rid of his low scores well worth it.

Maybe. Had 3 seasons, 55 games and yet to have a 30 possession game. Given more mid field time he should break his PB of 27 in a game. He's a speculative/hopeful pick. At his price I think if you pick him it's to be a keeper. In terms of likely cash making ability I doubt he'll be worth it... more value in getting another mid rookie or Miles who has the runs on the board and a cheaper $86k pricetag.

[RaisyDaisy]

LOL, I've mentioned Mills twice in this thread already!

Well documented already that he played mids in their intraclub last week and did well - we just have to keep an eye on him for now

[Keeper27]

thoughts on GWS's Weller.... priced @ 74, can he go 85+

[RaisyDaisy]

thoughts on GWS's Weller.... priced @ 74, can he go 85+

You mean GC?

And no, think there's better value elsewhere

[Keeper27]

thoughts on GWS's Weller.... priced @ 74, can he go 85+

You mean GC?

And no, think there's better value elsewhere

Sorry my bad... was also looking at someone @ GWS when i wrote that.
Fair enough. Thanks

[quinny88]

What do people think Libba and  Miles will realistically average?


Can honestly see both going 100+

[enzedder]

What do people think Libba and  Miles will realistically average?


Can honestly see both going 100+

Miles 102 Libba 85