2019 Rookies

Started by quinny88, November 22, 2018, 10:53:37 PM

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RaisyDaisy

I wouldn't be worried about these rookies

Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged

Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench

MontyJnr

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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies

Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged

Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench

I don't think they can be ignored though.

Some teams are fielding as many as 6 rookies across defence and forwards, while some teams are fortunate to get away with only 4 (achieved by fielding 3 rookies in the midfield).

The teams fielding 6 are possibly at a disadvantage right now, so should they be urgently adjusting their structure or consider a high scoring rookie like Rozee as a stop-gap solution instead?

js19

Quote from: MontyJnr on April 10, 2019, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies

Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged

Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench

I don't think they can be ignored though.

Some teams are fielding as many as 6 rookies across defence and forwards, while some teams are fortunate to get away with only 4 (achieved by fielding 3 rookies in the midfield).

The teams fielding 6 are possibly at a disadvantage right now, so should they be urgently adjusting their structure or consider a high scoring rookie like Rozee as a stop-gap solution instead?

Thing is, Rozee is still a rookie, and could still be out scored by those guys next round. Then you’ve wasted a trade and a lot of money..

Wanderer

Quote from: MontyJnr on April 10, 2019, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies

Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged

Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench

I don't think they can be ignored though.

Some teams are fielding as many as 6 rookies across defence and forwards, while some teams are fortunate to get away with only 4 (achieved by fielding 3 rookies in the midfield).

The teams fielding 6 are possibly at a disadvantage right now, so should they be urgently adjusting their structure or consider a high scoring rookie like Rozee as a stop-gap solution instead?

Rozee over his 5 games so far including pre-season has had one great game kicking 5 goals, another good game against "Carlton", and 3 shockers for somebody at his price. In his first 3 games he averaged low 50's. A high price to pay for somebody not really guaranteed to score more than the other rookie options.

RaisyDaisy

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Quote from: MontyJnr on April 10, 2019, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies

Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged

Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench

I don't think they can be ignored though.

Some teams are fielding as many as 6 rookies across defence and forwards, while some teams are fortunate to get away with only 4 (achieved by fielding 3 rookies in the midfield).

The teams fielding 6 are possibly at a disadvantage right now, so should they be urgently adjusting their structure or consider a high scoring rookie like Rozee as a stop-gap solution instead?

I would think that the teams only fielding 4 probably have several mid pricers like Brodie Smith etc so although they might have less "rookies" on field now, overall they are no better off and will end up having to use more trades likely

I have Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma on field and Drew/Setters on field (rotate with Parker) and I'm ranked just outside 1k overall atm so I don't see a need to get these types off the field right now, not at the expense of using valuable trades or bring in speculative players

And like the others have said, I don't see Rozee as a must at all at his price. He won't be kicking 5 every week. If you started him, fine, but no way would I bring him in now


js19

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 10, 2019, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I wouldn't be worried about these rookies

Reality is, everyone is having to field most of them anyway so even if they score well, we all cop it and nobody is really disadvantaged

Just need to get lucky picking which ones to field and bench

I don't think they can be ignored though.

Some teams are fielding as many as 6 rookies across defence and forwards, while some teams are fortunate to get away with only 4 (achieved by fielding 3 rookies in the midfield).

The teams fielding 6 are possibly at a disadvantage right now, so should they be urgently adjusting their structure or consider a high scoring rookie like Rozee as a stop-gap solution instead?

I would think that the teams only fielding 4 probably have several mid pricers like Brodie Smith etc so although they might have less "rookies" on field now, overall they are no better off and will end up having to use more trades likely

I have Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma on field and Drew/Setters on field (rotate with Parker) and I'm ranked just outside 1k overall atm so I don't see a need to get these types off the field right now, not at the expense of using valuable trades or bring in speculative players

And like the others have said, I don't see Rozee as a must at all at his price. If he was averaging as much as Walsh then maybe, but there are guys way cheaper matching him, and he won't be kicking 5 every week. If you started him, fine, but no way would I bring him in now

Tbf Rozee averages more than Walsh... But too late to get him in anyways. I’ve got only 6 rooks on field, but also running midpricers as you mentioned, so time will show if it pays off in the long run

RaisyDaisy

Hah, I edited that out but you must have quoted me just before I did lol

Rozee was a fine starting selection, but not someone to look at bringing in now. There is no doubt he won't maintain this and will be churning out scores similar to the other fwd rookies soon enough

js19

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:33:09 PM
Hah, I edited that out but you must have quoted me just before I did lol

Rozee was a fine starting selection, but not someone to look at bringing in now. There is no doubt he won't maintain this and will be churning out scores similar to the other fwd rookies soon enough

That’s just it. A 100+ score is an anomaly for a rookie. People are quick to forget Drew killed it first game, and so did Scott. Now they’re ‘liabilities’. It’s just unfortunate their big score isn’t in the rotation long enough. Another couple of price rises from Rozee and I’m likely to wave goodbye unless he keeps getting 100s

Wanderer

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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:33:09 PM
Hah, I edited that out but you must have quoted me just before I did lol

Rozee was a fine starting selection, but not someone to look at bringing in now. There is no doubt he won't maintain this and will be churning out scores similar to the other fwd rookies soon enough

Exactly. If you didn't get him before his price went up then its a waste trying to get him in now. I don't see why people are even contemplating going after Rozee now. It smells of desperation. Just don't quote me when he pumps out another couple of 100's  :P

tommy10

Quote from: Wanderer on April 10, 2019, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 10, 2019, 03:33:09 PM
Hah, I edited that out but you must have quoted me just before I did lol

Rozee was a fine starting selection, but not someone to look at bringing in now. There is no doubt he won't maintain this and will be churning out scores similar to the other fwd rookies soon enough

Exactly. If you didn't get him before his price went up then its a waste trying to get him in now. I don't see why people are even contemplating going after Rozee now. It smells of desperation. Just don't quote me when he pumps out another couple of 100's  :P
Dont go chasing yesterday's points

Mat0369

Anyone got the BE for the rookies so far?

I have the following list

Backs
Rozee
Collins
Scrimshaw
Clark
Duursma
Wilkie
Burgess
McKay
Lockhart (bubble)
Markov (bubble)

Mids

Walsh
Cousins
LDU
Butters
Constable
Bailey Smith
Jones
Scott
Thomas (bubble)
Gibbons
Atkins
Wagner (bubble)


Rucks

None this week

Forwards

McCarthy (not a rookie but looks like he should have good cash gen)
Powell
Drew
Lukosius (lost cash)
Blakey
Parker
Setters
Miers
Petruccelle
Balta (bubble)
Polson (bubble)

RaisyDaisy

Too many players for me to be bothered to get every single one of their BE's to be honest, but I'll post the ones for the rookies I have in my side, just because it's all on field in my team :)

Backs

Scrimshaw -26
Clark -16
Duursma -32
Wilkie 4
Burgess -16

Mids

Walsh -36
Constable -59
Scott 25
Gibbons 0
Atkins -1

Forwards

Drew -12
Parker -26
Setters 17
Petruccelle -19


Mat0369

So of that list, Wilkie, Gibbons and Scott could have stagnated. Setters is pretty close and the rest seem like they will make a nice chunk of change at least this week. Drew and Parker will maybe struggle to burn through their poor scores from the weekend which will linger another week but it seems decent enough

I just checked on Footywire as well. Looks like the BE's for Scrimshaw, Clark and Duursma match. Looks like they will be a reliable source. I might  post the list based off that if someone wants to cross check it for me with Gold.

Koop

Backs
Rozee -48
Collins -33
Scrimshaw -26
Clark -16
Duursma -32
Wilkie 4
Burgess -16
McKay 27
Lockhart (bubble) -29
Markov (bubble) -4

Mids

Walsh -36
Cousins 1
LDU -27
Butters -31
Constable -59
Bailey Smith -26
Jones 26
Scott 25
Thomas (bubble) 20
Gibbons 0
Atkins -1
Wagner (bubble) -53


Rucks

None this week

Forwards

McCarthy (not a rookie but looks like he should have good cash gen) 5
Powell 18
Drew -12
Lukosius (lost cash) 63
Blakey 13
Parker -26
Setters 17
Miers -48
Petruccelle -19
Balta (bubble) 24
Polson (bubble) 40

Libba, Marshall & Moore the other 3 named negative BE non-1 game players in the game (-55, -24 & -3 respectively).

Sydney Stack has a BE of -105.

Happy for any others on request. (SC Gold)

Mat0369

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 10, 2019, 10:31:01 PM
Anyone got the BE for the rookies so far?

I have the following list

Backs
Rozee - -48
Collins - -33
Scrimshaw - -26
Clark - -16
Duursma - -32
Wilkie - 4
Burgess - -16
McKay - 27
Lockhart (bubble) - -29
Markov (bubble) - -4

Mids

Walsh - -36
Cousins - 1
LDU - -27
Butters - -31
Constable - -59
Bailey Smith - -26
Jones - 26
Scott - 25
Thomas (bubble) - 20
Gibbons - 0
Atkins - -1
Wagner (bubble) - -53


Rucks

None this week

Forwards

McCarthy (not a rookie but looks like he should have good cash gen) - 5
Powell - 18
Drew - -12
Lukosius (lost cash) -
Blakey - 63
Parker - -26
Setters - 17
Miers - -48
Petruccelle - -19
Balta (bubble) - 24 (and averaging 24.5)
Polson (bubble) - 40

Darcy Moore also has a break even of -3

Miers and Rozee still have a ton of burn. Should be big money makers over the next fortnight