2019 Rookies

Started by quinny88, November 22, 2018, 10:53:37 PM

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jabroni

i brought in ridley at $233k as i need more JS at the back running a stacked midfield and he will still make money

MontyJnr

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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess

Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?

Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?

Hmmmmm

Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids

Is there any appeal to Wilkie outside of JS? He averaged 22 in the JLT with 37.5% gametime. Works out to be 0.49 points per minute, which is worse than Hore, Gibbons & Parker. Burgess is actually the only popular rookie with lower points per minute.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess

Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?

Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?

Hmmmmm

Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids

Is there any appeal to Wilkie outside of JS? He averaged 22 in the JLT with 37.5% gametime. Works out to be 0.49 points per minute, which is worse than Hore, Gibbons & Parker. Burgess is actually the only popular rookie with lower points per minute.

He barely got a look in at the JLT so I'm not too concerned about those stats

He averaged 24 touches last year, is a mature ager so has played against men and as far as I know played off half back so he could slot into Robbo's role, and that's what's got me interested

I know I can get him in 2 weeks if need be, but if I get the selections right now then I save that trade, so just trying to figure out which way to go

HappyDEZ

Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 01:02:33 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 22, 2019, 12:14:29 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 22, 2019, 12:36:38 AMI'm not worried about Balta being dropped because I allow for 2 rookie correction trades after round 2 anyway.

I find it funny how everyone is happy to burn trades on rookie corrections, but then stay away from 250k-450k stepping stone players for instance because they're not willing to "use a trade" down the track to turn them into true top 6-8 premiums.

There needs to be more importance placed on doing as much as possible to avoid wasting trades on rookie corrections in my opinion. You'd be kicking yourself looking back on a Balta > Parker trade in hindsight, when it could've been used on something much more pivotal late in the season.
Yeah it's a good point.
I think however that rookie correction trades are almost inevitable, given the inherent doubt over JS, them getting dropped/injured and/or scoring like crap.
While I agree it's important to try and nail all the rookies straight up, it's not that easy, and having the "right" rookies is even more important come round 3,even it u have to use a trade or 2 to get there.

Yeah I understand the difficulty in completely nailing the rookies, but things like job security and scoring potential can been assessed to some degree prior to the start of the season.

Unpredicable curveballs are going to come up occasionally (Ronke last year anyone?), but I just think there is merit putting the same care into rookies that you would with midpricers (which always seem to be heavily scrutinized). The "hope for the best and it can be sorted with a correction trade anyway" approach just seems reckless and potentially damaging in my opinion.
So long as I have at least 2/3rds of my rookies go OK I think I will leave Balta at F8 rather than waste a trade. Rather use that trade on a rookie that has made some money as opposed to a straight swap for a bubble boy.

MontyJnr

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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 02:43:49 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess

Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?

Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?

Hmmmmm

Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids

Is there any appeal to Wilkie outside of JS? He averaged 22 in the JLT with 37.5% gametime. Works out to be 0.49 points per minute, which is worse than Hore, Gibbons & Parker. Burgess is actually the only popular rookie with lower points per minute.

He barely got a look in at the JLT so I'm not too concerned about those stats

He averaged 24 touches last year, is a mature ager so has played against men and as far as I know played off half back so he could slot into Robbo's role, and that's what's got me interested

I know I can get him in 2 weeks if need be, but if I get the selections right now then I save that trade, so just trying to figure out which way to go

Yeah interesting, I wonder how effective he will be at replacing Robbo if that is the role he is in fact playing.

Could it be worth taking a punt on Wilkie over Parker (who is looking like a slow burner playing small forward in an average team) and switching Burgess forward? You would lose the link with Moore if you have him forward already obviously, but this can always be adjusted later down the track...

coglan13

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 02:43:49 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess

Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?

Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?

Hmmmmm

Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids

Is there any appeal to Wilkie outside of JS? He averaged 22 in the JLT with 37.5% gametime. Works out to be 0.49 points per minute, which is worse than Hore, Gibbons & Parker. Burgess is actually the only popular rookie with lower points per minute.

He barely got a look in at the JLT so I'm not too concerned about those stats

He averaged 24 touches last year, is a mature ager so has played against men and as far as I know played off half back so he could slot into Robbo's role, and that's what's got me interested

I know I can get him in 2 weeks if need be, but if I get the selections right now then I save that trade, so just trying to figure out which way to go
Wilkie didn't really have a role in JLT, he even did some rucking when Pierce went down. He might come in as a replacement for Roberton now.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 03:34:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 02:43:49 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on March 22, 2019, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
I've got Scrim, Clark, Duursma, Hore, Burgess

Wondering if I should drop one of then for Wilkie now that he is named?

Or do I just back in the 5, and correct to Wilkie if it looks like it is required in 2 weeks time?

Hmmmmm

Part of me is saying drop Scrim, just because Clarko always drops kids

Is there any appeal to Wilkie outside of JS? He averaged 22 in the JLT with 37.5% gametime. Works out to be 0.49 points per minute, which is worse than Hore, Gibbons & Parker. Burgess is actually the only popular rookie with lower points per minute.

He barely got a look in at the JLT so I'm not too concerned about those stats

He averaged 24 touches last year, is a mature ager so has played against men and as far as I know played off half back so he could slot into Robbo's role, and that's what's got me interested

I know I can get him in 2 weeks if need be, but if I get the selections right now then I save that trade, so just trying to figure out which way to go

Yeah interesting, I wonder how effective he will be at replacing Robbo if that is the role he is in fact playing.

Could it be worth taking a punt on Wilkie over Parker (who is looking like a slow burner playing small forward in an average team) and switching Burgess forward? You would lose the link with Moore if you have him forward already obviously, but this can always be adjusted later down the track...

I've got Balta and Petrucelle on the bench, and I think I'd rather keep Petruccelle and my DPP with Burgess open (Burgess back Moore forward), so I'd have to drop a def rookie, but I just don't know which one I should dump

Might just have to keep it as is, and then do the correction trade if need be  :-\


Money Shot

I’ve just dropped Scrimshaw to Wilkie. Probably going to score similar so may as well pocket the extra cash.

Rusty00

Do we think it's worth the money to move Constable/Scott/Atkins up to Bailey Smith? Would give me Walsh, Smith and Butters plus two of Constable/Scott/Atkins? Or save the money with the cheaper rookies?

frenzy

Quote from: Rusty00 on March 22, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
Do we think it's worth the money to move Constable/Scott/Atkins up to Bailey Smith? Would give me Walsh, Smith and Butters plus two of Constable/Scott/Atkins? Or save the money with the cheaper rookies?

pass on smith bud, is constable/scott/ atkins your bench or onfield?

Rusty00

Quote from: frenzy on March 22, 2019, 03:59:56 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on March 22, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
Do we think it's worth the money to move Constable/Scott/Atkins up to Bailey Smith? Would give me Walsh, Smith and Butters plus two of Constable/Scott/Atkins? Or save the money with the cheaper rookies?

pass on smith bud, is constable/scott/ atkins your bench or onfield?
Constable/Scott/Atkins my bench.

RaisyDaisy

Smith was a beast in juniors - very close to Walsh in terms of SC, but WBD has 1000 mids so can't see him scoring high and generating enough cash at his price

frenzy

#912
Quote from: Rusty00 on March 22, 2019, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: frenzy on March 22, 2019, 03:59:56 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on March 22, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
Do we think it's worth the money to move Constable/Scott/Atkins up to Bailey Smith? Would give me Walsh, Smith and Butters plus two of Constable/Scott/Atkins? Or save the money with the cheaper rookies?

pass on smith bud, is constable/scott/ atkins your bench or onfield?
Constable/Scott/Atkins my bench.

them 3 more than enough for the bench

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2019, 04:22:22 PM
Smith was a beast in juniors - very close to Walsh in terms of SC, but WBD has 1000 mids so can't see him scoring high and generating enough cash at his price

too much cash for the bench and barely blew out the cobwebs in the JLT. I think he come back from an ankle injury?

edit; geez I flowered this post, Lol

hawkers65

Whats everyone doing for 2 out of Scrim, Hore and Wilkie?

SilverLion

Quote from: SilverLion on March 21, 2019, 07:09:50 PM
Def:

Scrimshaw $149,800
Clark $144,300
Duursma (Mid) $130,800
Wilkie $124,900
Joyce $123,900
McKay $123,900
Burgess (FWD) $123,900
Hore $117,300


Mid:

Wagner $123,900
Constable $123,900
Scott $117,300
Atkins $112,900
Gibbons $102,400*

Ruc:

N/A

Fwd:

Setterfield (MID) $144,900*
Brander $135,900
Balta $123,900*
Drew (MID) $123,900
Miers $123,900
Petrucelle $123,900
Parker $117,300
Schultz $117,300




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