2019 Rookies

Started by quinny88, November 22, 2018, 10:53:37 PM

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imjusflexin

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: imjusflexin on March 18, 2019, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 07:19:14 PM
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Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
b smith probably averages 40 more then most defender rookies who generally average 40-50 good luck find8ing better use for that 150-200k
... but surely very few would put such a low scoring rookie on field?

even clark or duur will score below 50 often they will be onfield in many teams
May I ask your FWD setup? if you have Grundy & Gawn? How many premo mids you have? Sure ideally we'd all like less DEF rookies on field but it's not like the other positions have great rookie options jumping out to be picked and there's only so much $$ to go around.

EDIT: Just had a go at turning Hore into Smith.. had to downgrade Fyfe & Conigs to M. Crouch & Steele... don't like it.

i have Libba at M5 and Moore at F4, i think Libba/B Crouch at m6 then Walsh at M7 is crazy to

rather field 3 mid rookies including Walsh then 2 or 3 defender rookies
I guess it's as simple as I'd rather have Coniglio than Libba at M5. Even if it means a rookie instead of B. Smith.

In the end, these are the same debates everyone's having with themselves... which if any mid-pricers, how many rookies on each line etc.

Let's just get to flowerin thursday already aye

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: TomK on March 18, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 18, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this

u want Collins at d5 imo
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)

I’m pretty content on this set up.

All seem to have relatively good job security.

Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.
lol

How can Scrimshaw have good job security after Clarko's comments today? And Hore doesn't have good JS whatsoever.

+1

Scrimshaw/Hore both seem to be very dicey selections. I'd have 1 at most in the side for now - need a backup plan to bring in Collins/Marsh just in case

I'm not touching Hore - absolute trap I reckon. Of course I could be wrong, but if he has 2 good rounds then I'll bring him in, but I don't think that's going to happen

Fid

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 18, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 18, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this

u want Collins at d5 imo
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)

I’m pretty content on this set up.

All seem to have relatively good job security.

Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.
lol

How can Scrimshaw have good job security after Clarko's comments today? And Hore doesn't have good JS whatsoever.

+1

Scrimshaw/Hore both seem to be very dicey selections. I'd have 1 at most in the side for now - need a backup plan to bring in Collins/Marsh just in case

I'm not touching Hore - absolute trap I reckon. Of course I could be wrong, but if he has 2 good rounds then I'll bring him in, but I don't think that's going to happen

I don't like scrimshaw or hore either, if Ben McKay gets a gig, I'll be jumping on.  I don't think he did too badly in the JLT series

eaglesman

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: imjusflexin on March 18, 2019, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 07:19:14 PM
Quote from: GoldDigger on March 18, 2019, 07:13:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
b smith probably averages 40 more then most defender rookies who generally average 40-50 good luck find8ing better use for that 150-200k
... but surely very few would put such a low scoring rookie on field?

even clark or duur will score below 50 often they will be onfield in many teams
May I ask your FWD setup? if you have Grundy & Gawn? How many premo mids you have? Sure ideally we'd all like less DEF rookies on field but it's not like the other positions have great rookie options jumping out to be picked and there's only so much $$ to go around.

EDIT: Just had a go at turning Hore into Smith.. had to downgrade Fyfe & Conigs to M. Crouch & Steele... don't like it.

i have Libba at M5 and Moore at F4, i think Libba/B Crouch at m6 then Walsh at M7 is crazy to

rather field 3 mid rookies including Walsh then 2 or 3 defender rookies

Don’t think we have enough mid rookies myself

Football Factory

#694
What about  Darragh Joyce?  any thoughts?  spud?

Spose Brown takes his spot when back from suspension if named?

batt

Quote from: Football Factory on March 18, 2019, 08:46:39 PM
What about  Darragh Joyce?  any thoughts?  spud?

Spose Brown takes his spot when back from suspension if named?
Page 44 :)

Really not sold on Duursma.  Just scared how slender he is.  He's what I think of when I think "trap".  And of course I'll probably end up starting him.

sammy123

Quote from: batt on March 18, 2019, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on March 18, 2019, 08:46:39 PM
What about  Darragh Joyce?  any thoughts?  spud?

Spose Brown takes his spot when back from suspension if named?
Page 44 :)

Really not sold on Duursma.  Just scared how slender he is.  He's what I think of when I think "trap".  And of course I'll probably end up starting him.

Dont feel bad i think most people will start with him

Football Factory

Quote from: batt on March 18, 2019, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on March 18, 2019, 08:46:39 PM
What about  Darragh Joyce?  any thoughts?  spud?

Spose Brown takes his spot when back from suspension if named?
Page 44 :)

Really not sold on Duursma.  Just scared how slender he is.  He's what I think of when I think "trap".  And of course I'll probably end up starting him.

Ahh cheers, yeah not exactly glowing reports  ;D

sammy123

Quote from: Fid on March 18, 2019, 08:36:42 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: TomK on March 18, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 18, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 18, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
ppl starting 2 or 3 defender rookies on field are crazy have seen some teams with this

u want Collins at d5 imo
Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Burgess (DPP w/ Moore), Hore)

I’m pretty content on this set up.

All seem to have relatively good job security.

Scrimshaw is a bit concerning with what Clarko said today but I think he’s a decent chance.
lol

How can Scrimshaw have good job security after Clarko's comments today? And Hore doesn't have good JS whatsoever.

+1

Scrimshaw/Hore both seem to be very dicey selections. I'd have 1 at most in the side for now - need a backup plan to bring in Collins/Marsh just in case

I'm not touching Hore - absolute trap I reckon. Of course I could be wrong, but if he has 2 good rounds then I'll bring him in, but I don't think that's going to happen

I don't like scrimshaw or hore either, if Ben McKay gets a gig, I'll be jumping on.  I don't think he did too badly in the JLT series

Mckay will play i reckon. His scoring might not b that great. With tarrant out i think he plays

_wato

It comes down to Hore or Frost out for May come Round 2 imo, Hore is much more athletic and May and Frost are much more like for like. Hore is basically playing Lever's role I'd think and offers more than Frost but that's just me. Guess you could say his JS is questionable.

As for Scrimshaw I think there's a spot for him Rd 1. Whether he stays in the team for a period of any longevity is another question which poses the $$ generation question. Clarko will be happy to swap and switch guys around to fill roles.

Duursma is a lock. 9 touches, 4 marks and a goal in JLT 1, turned that into 24 touches, 11 marks in the second JLT. Will get plenty of opportunity in a Port team looking for pace and guys that can break the lines. 

Also hearing Tarrant is very close to playing Rd 1. Plus Scotty Thompson to come back Round 2, you'd be crazy to select McKay.

jfitty

Where are we rating Burgess amongst all these options?

Thinking a slow burn, but JS would be pretty solid? Also (for me) can link with Moore

Trying to work out the bench between Duursma, Hore and Burgess..

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: _wato on March 18, 2019, 09:55:18 PM
It comes down to Hore or Frost out for May come Round 2 imo, Hore is much more athletic and May and Frost are much more like for like. Hore is basically playing Lever's role I'd think and offers more than Frost but that's just me. Guess you could say his JS is questionable.

As for Scrimshaw I think there's a spot for him Rd 1. Whether he stays in the team for a period of any longevity is another question which poses the $$ generation question. Clarko will be happy to swap and switch guys around to fill roles.

Duursma is a lock. 9 touches, 4 marks and a goal in JLT 1, turned that into 24 touches, 11 marks in the second JLT. Will get plenty of opportunity in a Port team looking for pace and guys that can break the lines.

Did you see the previous page with what Clarkson said about Scrimshaw?

Hore is a fair chance to get named, but whether his holds a spot - that's the tricky part. Might be best to watch and see, then grab him on the bubble if he warrants it

RaisyDaisy

Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side

B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore

HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta

Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?

Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them

_wato

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 10:13:13 PM
Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side

B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore

HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta

Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?

Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them

I've already said, Frost is the guy who is more like for like for May to come back. If Hore does enough come Round 1 I think he offers more to the Dees than playing Frost who is 194cm. Hore stands at 189cm and is much more athletic.

O McDonald already stands at 196cm and May at 193cm. Add in TMac, Weidemann, Gawny and possibly Preuss I don't think they can take in THAT many guys.

jfitty

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2019, 10:13:13 PM
Numerous outlets have this as the Dees R1 side

B: Michael Hibberd, Sam Frost, Marty Hore

HB: Jordan Lewis, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta

Can any Melbourne supporters argue why this won't be the case?

Is Hore actually a better chance to hold a spot than first thought? FWIW I've assumed he won't play simply because several Melb supporters have said that, but now I'm questioning them

I've seen him named on the wing as well.

Steven May has to come back in round 2, but is anyone else around the corner?

My personal feeling is that Hore has taken Vince's spot, with May to come back in and take Lever's spot (or Frost gets the chop). Could be totally wrong though..