2019 Rookies

Started by quinny88, November 22, 2018, 10:53:37 PM

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enzedder

Settled on...
D- Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw, Duursma
M- Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins, Gibbons
R- Bines (wanted Clarke but have paid up on defensive rookies with better prospects)
F- Setterfield, Balta, Drew, Petruccelle

Left out Hore (questionable JS and lower PPM in JLT compared to Scrimshaw)...Parker (might have better JS over Petruccelle but that's questionable so Petruccelle gets the nod as he appears to have better/ quicker cash generation potential) and Burgess as although I will almost definitely start Moore the DPP isn't enough for me to want him. Last year I had Lachlan Keeffe and it was worth didly squat. Burgess looks like being a poor scorer in a bad team. If I need to swing Moore I'll make a call as trades allow it.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: enzedder on March 17, 2019, 09:20:43 AM
Settled on...
D- Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw, Duursma
M- Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins, Gibbons
R- Bines (wanted Clarke but have paid up on defensive rookies with better prospects)
F- Setterfield, Balta, Drew, Petruccelle

Left out Hore (questionable JS and lower PPM in JLT compared to Scrimshaw)...Parker (might have better JS over Petruccelle but that's questionable so Petruccelle gets the nod as he appears to have better/ quicker cash generation potential) and Burgess as although I will almost definitely start Moore the DPP isn't enough for me to want him. Last year I had Lachlan Keeffe and it was worth didly squat. Burgess looks like being a poor scorer in a bad team. If I need to swing Moore I'll make a call as trades allow it.

Pretty much the exact same for me too. Only difference is I've gone with Burgess and am passing on Butters

Hopefully they all get named

GoLions

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 17, 2019, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: enzedder on March 17, 2019, 09:20:43 AM
Settled on...
D- Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw, Duursma
M- Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins, Gibbons
R- Bines (wanted Clarke but have paid up on defensive rookies with better prospects)
F- Setterfield, Balta, Drew, Petruccelle

Left out Hore (questionable JS and lower PPM in JLT compared to Scrimshaw)...Parker (might have better JS over Petruccelle but that's questionable so Petruccelle gets the nod as he appears to have better/ quicker cash generation potential) and Burgess as although I will almost definitely start Moore the DPP isn't enough for me to want him. Last year I had Lachlan Keeffe and it was worth didly squat. Burgess looks like being a poor scorer in a bad team. If I need to swing Moore I'll make a call as trades allow it.

Pretty much the exact same for me too. Only difference is I've gone with Burgess and am passing on Butters

Hopefully they all get named
Hore over Scrimshaw, Hately over Gibbons, Parker over Petruccelle, and have Burgess as well to swing with Moore. If I had the cash, would go Petruccelle over Parker.

kilbluff1985

“Pre-season cult hero Noah Balta is unlikely to compete alongside Lynch and Jack Riewoldt up forward, meaning No.1 ruckman Toby Nankervis' deputy was unknown.”

SilverLion

Quote from: SilverLion on March 09, 2019, 11:17:23 AM
Done this in previous years, seemed to be useful, thought I'd make a list of all the rookies with at a decent chance of playing rd. 1 for reference. (Walsh's price or cheaper, bolded the 124ks or less)

Will narrow the list to just confirmed players when the round 1 sides get named :)

If I'm forgetting anyone, or if anyone here is confirmed no chance lemme know and I'll amend it though.




Defence:

Keeffe 8) ($190,500)
(FWD) Rozee ($189,300)
Collins ($188,900)
Cumming ($173,700)
Scrimshaw ($149,800)
Clark ($144,300)
(MID) Duursma (130,800)
Wilkie ($124,900)
(FWD) Burgess ($123,900)
Jones ($123,900)
McKay ($123,900)
Joyce ($123,900)
Hore ($117,300)


Mids:

Walsh ($207,300)
Davies-Uniacke ($197,500)
B Smith ($180,300)
C Jones ($171,300)
Caldwell ($162,300)
Butters ($157,800)
Hately ($148,800)
Constable ($123,900)
Bewley ($117,300)
Hind ($117,300)
Hayes ($117,300)
Scott ($117,300)
Atkins ($112,900)
Gibbons ($102,400)

Rucks:

A Smith ($172,300)
Clarke ($142,600)
Fort ($117,300)

Forwards:

Lukosius ($202,800)
Polson 8) ($191,800)
Blakey ($166,800)
Lewis ($149,000)
(MID) Setterfield ($144,900)
(MID) Drew ($123,900)
Balta ($123,900)
Petrucelle ($123,900)
Parker ($117,300)
Updated

quinny88

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 17, 2019, 12:24:26 PM
“Pre-season cult hero Noah Balta is unlikely to compete alongside Lynch and Jack Riewoldt up forward, meaning No.1 ruckman Toby Nankervis' deputy was unknown.”

Where is this from?

batt

Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2019, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 17, 2019, 12:24:26 PM
“Pre-season cult hero Noah Balta is unlikely to compete alongside Lynch and Jack Riewoldt up forward, meaning No.1 ruckman Toby Nankervis' deputy was unknown.”

Where is this from?
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-17/theres-no-doubt-about-that-dimma-on-lynch-in-the-ruck

Also:

"One of Balta or Callum Moore is set to partner Riewoldt in attack if Lynch fails to sufficiently recover in time for round one, Hardwick said."

Doesn't sound great

_wato

D- Collins, Clark, Scrimshaw, Duursma, Hore
M- Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Gibbons
R- Bines
F- Setterfield, Drew, Petruccelle, Burgess/Parker but leaning towards Burgess.

That's who I think I'll go with.

enzedder

Joyce is a strong chance to play R1 given the injuries of Carlisle and Clavarino, Brown's suspension and Roberton announcing he'll miss all of 2019.
However I wouldn't be rushing to put him in your team after his -3 effort from 72% gametime in R16 last year.
St.Kilda's defence will have the top forwards licking their lips this year. At least the Saints have tightened things up somewhat, with one of last season's wooden spooners' delisted guys, in Sam Rowe.
Rowe or Joyce will play I think.

SilverLion

Quote from: enzedder on March 17, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
Joyce is a strong chance to play R1 given the injuries of Carlisle and Clavarino, Brown's suspension and Roberton announcing he'll miss all of 2019.
However I wouldn't be rushing to put him in your team after his -3 effort from 72% gametime in R16 last year.
St.Kilda's defence will have the top forwards licking their lips this year. At least the Saints have tightened things up somewhat, with one of last season's wooden spooners' delisted guys, in Sam Rowe.
Rowe or Joyce will play I think.
Apologies in advance as this probably isn't the right section...

NZ as a Saints supporter can you provide some insight into the Saints' thinking with their backs?

In my mind Savage, Geary, Webster and NBrown will be 4 locked for them every week (personally, I think Brown is shower, but reckon they'll play him coz he's experienced).

The 2 remaining spots then would be open to:

Battle, Joyce, Wilkie, Coffield, Marsh, Rowe, Austin and Rice (maybe Clark too, but he can play mid as well?)

After hearing about Carlisle and now Roberton, I thought Austin and Battle would be the walk-up replacements for them, with probably Joyce covering for NBrown in round 1. However Austin didn't play in the JLT (recovering from Injury, but played in the VFL?) and with all the options available, is Battle certain to get named rd. 1?

What exactly does the Saints best available back 6 look like in 2019? Are Wilkie and Joyce ahead of Battle/Austin/Rowe etc.?

RaisyDaisy

Brown is the only KPD so they're going to need at least one, if not two more

Joyce, Rowe are KPD replacements

Austin and Marsh can play KPD but only as the third option when needed

Wilkie, Battle are rebounders like Savage and Webster

Rice is similar to Geary

That said, Joyce plays round 1 for sure replacing Brown, and when he comes back Round 2 you'd think 2 of Brown/Joyce/Rowe play as their key backs, Geary as the small and 3 of Savage, Webster, Marsh, Battle play

Rice and Austin depth

Just my take

Either way, I'm not touching any of them and just avoiding all together

enzedder

#656
Quote from: SilverLion on March 17, 2019, 02:34:36 PM
Quote from: enzedder on March 17, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
Joyce is a strong chance to play R1 given the injuries of Carlisle and Clavarino, Brown's suspension and Roberton announcing he'll miss all of 2019.
However I wouldn't be rushing to put him in your team after his -3 effort from 72% gametime in R16 last year.
St.Kilda's defence will have the top forwards licking their lips this year. At least the Saints have tightened things up somewhat, with one of last season's wooden spooners' delisted guys, in Sam Rowe.
Rowe or Joyce will play I think.
Apologies in advance as this probably isn't the right section...

NZ as a Saints supporter can you provide some insight into the Saints' thinking with their backs?

In my mind Savage, Geary, Webster and NBrown will be 4 locked for them every week (personally, I think Brown is shower, but reckon they'll play him coz he's experienced).

The 2 remaining spots then would be open to:

Battle, Joyce, Wilkie, Coffield, Marsh, Rowe, Austin and Rice (maybe Clark too, but he can play mid as well?)

After hearing about Carlisle and now Roberton, I thought Austin and Battle would be the walk-up replacements for them, with probably Joyce covering for NBrown in round 1. However Austin didn't play in the JLT (recovering from Injury, but played in the VFL?) and with all the options available, is Battle certain to get named rd. 1?

What exactly does the Saints best available back 6 look like in 2019? Are Wilkie and Joyce ahead of Battle/Austin/Rowe etc.?

It's a sad state of affairs.
Brown wouldn't get a game at the vast majority of clubs, yet he is vital given our list and injuries. He'll come straight back in after his suspension. Geary would be locked into the best 6 defenders, though there are unconfirmed rumours he has done his calf as well, so possibly he's out too. Roberton and Carlisle are two of our top 6 players regardless of positon.

Anyway, the best available back 6 in 2019 may be... Geary (if available), Brown (round 3 onwards), Savage, Webster and then it's a crapshoot. So you have as much idea as me. For me I'd pick Joyce, Coffield and Rice, though McKenzie and Newnes are able to play defensively as well as wing or midfield. It's muddy.

Joyce will be found out I think. He could be named R1 but I don't think he'll be the answer.

Austin should be able to hold the fort in one of the key positions, but the fact that we've grabbed Marsh and Rowe doesn't exactly scream that the club sees him as Mr.Fixit.

Marsh hasn't played since R23 2016 so he doesn't seem a best 6 defender. Back up. So maybe he plays. Horrifying!

Rowe at least played 17 games for last year's wooden spooners who conceded more points against than any other club. Not ideal...and he was delisted.

McCartin's concussion worries and the clouds of uncertainty that come with it may mean Battle may have to play forward.

Clavarino was tracking well and his recent injury has almost certainly cost him a R1 debut given what else has unfolded. He'll be given a crack when available but may have to wait till midway through the season.

RD's take is about on the money as it could be.
I'm not touching any of them either.


ben_020285

He’s got a lot of work to do (Including conditioning) Alastair Clarkson on Jack Scrimshaw via Twitter.

GoLions

Quote from: ben_020285 on March 18, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
He’s got a lot of work to do (Including conditioning) Alastair Clarkson on Jack Scrimshaw via Twitter.
Never been in my side, wasnt confident he'd play rd1

Nige

Quote from: GoLions on March 18, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 18, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
He’s got a lot of work to do (Including conditioning) Alastair Clarkson on Jack Scrimshaw via Twitter.
Never been in my side, wasnt confident he'd play rd1