2019 Rookies

[whynot102]

Thoughts on Jordan Ridley

[LaHug]

Thoughts on Jordan Ridley

He's been discussed a fair bit. I'm getting more and more tempted

[quinny88]

Thoughts on Jordan Ridley

He's been discussed a fair bit. I'm getting more and more tempted

Very tempted as well. What actually is his role? Rebounding  defender?

[hawkers65]

Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.

The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.

[quinny88]

Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.

The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.

You're right, and I probably won't end up going with him but there's always guys that break out and he's showing the early signs. Would rather sit off him for 2 weeks though and if he goes well will get him in before price increase

[Mat0369]

Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.

The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.

Ridley was the first pick in the second round (and the pick right before Alex Witherden) so while he may not be a first round or top 10 pick he is still a pretty high pick.

Zac Fisher, Willem Drew (who is cheaper but a popular pick this year), Tom Stewart and Tom Williamson were all selected after him.

Darcy Moore was also really only taking kickouts against us when Collingwood were looking to get it long out of defense. He shanked half of them off the boot trying to get the distance. This is normally where Dunn would step in to take them and Goldsack has also done it on occassions. He doesn't appear to be the designated guy with Maynard and Crisp also taking them. Add in Howe as another option . Ridley was sharing the kickout duties for the Dons so it's a wash there. I'd back Ridley to win more of the pill though

[hawkers65]

Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.

The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.

Ridley was the first pick in the second round (and the pick right before Alex Witherden) so while he may not be a first round or top 10 pick he is still a pretty high pick.

Zac Fisher, Willem Drew (who is cheaper but a popular pick this year), Tom Stewart and Tom Williamson were all selected after him.

Darcy Moore was also really only taking kickouts against us when Collingwood were looking to get it long out of defense. He shanked half of them off the boot trying to get the distance. This is normally where Dunn would step in to take them and Goldsack has also done it on occassions. He doesn't appear to be the designated guy with Maynard and Crisp also taking them. Add in Howe as another option . Ridley was sharing the kickout duties for the Dons so it's a wash there. I'd back Ridley to win more of the pill though

I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.

I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.

[Ricochet]

Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.

The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.

Ridley was the first pick in the second round (and the pick right before Alex Witherden) so while he may not be a first round or top 10 pick he is still a pretty high pick.

Zac Fisher, Willem Drew (who is cheaper but a popular pick this year), Tom Stewart and Tom Williamson were all selected after him.

Darcy Moore was also really only taking kickouts against us when Collingwood were looking to get it long out of defense. He shanked half of them off the boot trying to get the distance. This is normally where Dunn would step in to take them and Goldsack has also done it on occassions. He doesn't appear to be the designated guy with Maynard and Crisp also taking them. Add in Howe as another option . Ridley was sharing the kickout duties for the Dons so it's a wash there. I'd back Ridley to win more of the pill though

I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.

I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.

Howe is probably the one that would impact Moore on kickins the most. Does normally take a heap, and played flower all JLT. I'm keen on Moore, but it's something to keep in mind re kickins

[HappyDEZ]

Surely he is a textbook JLT trap. We've seen like nothing of him, played two solid games, one had a very inflated SC for some average stats too (18 touches and a goal from a 50m pen) The other, a decent game. Also played 3 games last year, 1 good, two stinkers. Wasnt even a very high pick to suggest the top end talent has been there. I just think the sample size is too small.

The only reasons im considering Moore and not Ridley, is the age, more highly touted and looks to have the better role with kick ins.

Ridley was the first pick in the second round (and the pick right before Alex Witherden) so while he may not be a first round or top 10 pick he is still a pretty high pick.

Zac Fisher, Willem Drew (who is cheaper but a popular pick this year), Tom Stewart and Tom Williamson were all selected after him.

Darcy Moore was also really only taking kickouts against us when Collingwood were looking to get it long out of defense. He shanked half of them off the boot trying to get the distance. This is normally where Dunn would step in to take them and Goldsack has also done it on occassions. He doesn't appear to be the designated guy with Maynard and Crisp also taking them. Add in Howe as another option . Ridley was sharing the kickout duties for the Dons so it's a wash there. I'd back Ridley to win more of the pill though

I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.

I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.

Howe is probably the one that would impact Moore on kickins the most. Does normally take a heap, and played flower all JLT. I'm keen on Moore, but it's something to keep in mind re kickins

I think Moore looks more than capable of scoring in his newish defensive role & is cheap as chips relatively speaking. The real question is can he string some games together without breaking down?

[Mat0369]

I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.

I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.

I'm referencing the Carlton game which I watched, not the Freo game which I saw 0 of. They shared the kicks pretty evenly hut put the ball in Moore's hands late in the game. I want to say he took 4 of the last 5. A couple were short chip passes but they wanted to use him to get the penetration that Howe/Crisp don't have in their kicking and were normally the Dunn/Goldsack kicks. They were both long tumble punts he shanked off the boot.

You can talk all you want about the next generation but Collingwood are in win now mode. If it comes to a clutch situation they will go to their clutch guys. Dunn or Goldsack are probably the ones you want on the ball busting kick out. Moore will get his share, but it's not going to be completely lopsided. He will probably see more while Dunn is out with the ACL and will probably see the majority of the 33% that he was getting.

I would peg Francis and Ridley to take BJ's share of the kickouts. BJ was taking about a quarter of them last year for the Bombers. I thought it was a bit more so that number will probably be in the 10-12% range. I thought it was a bit higher so that's my bad.

[Daicos.]

I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.

I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.

I'm referencing the Carlton game which I watched, not the Freo game which I saw 0 of. They shared the kicks pretty evenly hut put the ball in Moore's hands late in the game. I want to say he took 4 of the last 5. A couple were short chip passes but they wanted to use him to get the penetration that Howe/Crisp don't have in their kicking and were normally the Dunn/Goldsack kicks. They were both long tumble punts he shanked off the boot.

You can talk all you want about the next generation but Collingwood are in win now mode. If it comes to a clutch situation they will go to their clutch guys. Dunn or Goldsack are probably the ones you want on the ball busting kick out. Moore will get his share, but it's not going to be completely lopsided. He will probably see more while Dunn is out with the ACL and will probably see the majority of the 33% that he was getting.

I would peg Francis and Ridley to take BJ's share of the kickouts. BJ was taking about a quarter of them last year for the Bombers. I thought it was a bit more so that number will probably be in the 10-12% range. I thought it was a bit higher so that's my bad.

Penetration on the kick? On the run which from the goal square majority of kick ins will be, both Crisp and Howe have more penetrating kicks than Moore.

[eaglesman]

I'm not sure if you're just making up stats but Moore took more kick ins than anyone else in the JLT, played on from 8 in two games and went at high 80's for DE overall so i dont really see how you believe "he doesnt appear to be the designated guy. Dunn has to be pushing 33 now too, surely you go with your next generation talent, Moore is a good kick and a long one as well. Maynard/Crisp/Howe all played in the games Moore took the kick ins for. Ridley didnt even get close to finishing in the top kick in takers as he wasnt on the list so not sure how its a wash.

I have 90k spare right now, i could go Clark/Scrim to Ridely, i'm just not sure i want to.

I'm referencing the Carlton game which I watched, not the Freo game which I saw 0 of. They shared the kicks pretty evenly hut put the ball in Moore's hands late in the game. I want to say he took 4 of the last 5. A couple were short chip passes but they wanted to use him to get the penetration that Howe/Crisp don't have in their kicking and were normally the Dunn/Goldsack kicks. They were both long tumble punts he shanked off the boot.

You can talk all you want about the next generation but Collingwood are in win now mode. If it comes to a clutch situation they will go to their clutch guys. Dunn or Goldsack are probably the ones you want on the ball busting kick out. Moore will get his share, but it's not going to be completely lopsided. He will probably see more while Dunn is out with the ACL and will probably see the majority of the 33% that he was getting.

I would peg Francis and Ridley to take BJ's share of the kickouts. BJ was taking about a quarter of them last year for the Bombers. I thought it was a bit more so that number will probably be in the 10-12% range. I thought it was a bit higher so that's my bad.

This is why I follow what this guy has to say on fanfooty. He watches the games properly. Never mind the stats that deceive most. Trusts his eyes.

[_wato]

Lol as a Pies supporter I can say right now Moore will take majority of kick ins.

Plus this is what has me excited about Moore regardless of kick outs.

Averaged 18 touches over the 2 JLT’s, had 7 intercepts marks and led the Pies for rebound 50’s with 13.

Lock

[_wato]

Also Saints just picked up Johnathon Marsh ex Pies guy.

Very interesting. Carlisle down and Roberton 50/50, would be rookie priced!!!

[Big Mac]

Lol as a Pies supporter I can say right now Moore will take majority of kick ins.

Plus this is what has me excited about Moore regardless of kick outs.

Averaged 18 touches over the 2 JLT’s, had 7 intercepts marks and led the Pies for rebound 50’s with 13.

Lock

Why is Moore the better option for kick-outs?