2019 Rookies

Started by quinny88, November 22, 2018, 10:53:37 PM

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Pokerface

You don't need to look for guys that averaged 85 for the year. Just for the first 6-8 weeks - you aren't going to hold them all year. Rookie averages invariably drop in the second half as they tire.
Having said that I can't think of any fitting that bill off the top of my head. I thought I remembered Wines being a must have at around 175k but it seems his first year numbers dropped off after about round 4

kilbluff1985

Quote from: GoLions on February 27, 2019, 06:01:41 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely

I'm not picking him even if he gets named

"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."

Its the perfect rookie trap for the beginners. They'll see the green dot for 123k and slot him in.
I think i saw him in kb's team
::)

Ringo

Quote from: Pokerface on February 27, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
You don't need to look for guys that averaged 85 for the year. Just for the first 6-8 weeks - you aren't going to hold them all year. Rookie averages invariably drop in the second half as they tire.
Having said that I can't think of any fitting that bill off the top of my head. I thought I remembered Wines being a must have at around 175k but it seems his first year numbers dropped off after about round 4
This is probably on the mark as young draftees tend to drop off in later rds.  You are right with Wines averaged 86 for first 7 Rounds and went up $200k so pick the right one to start and pick when to cull. 

HappyDEZ

Quote from: Ringo on February 27, 2019, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: Pokerface on February 27, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
You don't need to look for guys that averaged 85 for the year. Just for the first 6-8 weeks - you aren't going to hold them all year. Rookie averages invariably drop in the second half as they tire.
Having said that I can't think of any fitting that bill off the top of my head. I thought I remembered Wines being a must have at around 175k but it seems his first year numbers dropped off after about round 4
This is probably on the mark as young draftees tend to drop off in later rds.  You are right with Wines averaged 86 for first 7 Rounds and went up $200k so pick the right one to start and pick when to cull.
From memory Wines & Wingard both went ballistic young. Maybe not first year but possibly 2nd year was their best footy as far as fantasy goes. I know I could look it up but anyway.

Southstorm

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely

I'm not picking him even if he gets named

"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
NM's key defender problem runs a lot deeper than Tarrant and SDT; Daw is still an unknown as far as recovery time goes and Durdin just cut his little finger off.

McKay is a last ditch option for mine at the moment, actually expect him to play a fair bit early on but at a very slow burn.

Mat0369

In 2015 Cripps was priced as an expensive rookie in his 2nd season and averaged 96. Vandenberg and Oxley averaged 75 the same year as rookie priced guys,

Pure rookies that were taken early in the draft is probably a little different. Most of them tend to peak at 70 odd

SilverLion

Quote from: Southstorm on February 27, 2019, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely

I'm not picking him even if he gets named

"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
NM's key defender problem runs a lot deeper than Tarrant and SDT; Daw is still an unknown as far as recovery time goes and Durdin just cut his little finger off.

McKay is a last ditch option for mine at the moment, actually expect him to play a fair bit early on but at a very slow burn.
Wouldn't Ed Vickers-Willis be ahead of McKay?

Southstorm

Quote from: SilverLion on February 28, 2019, 12:03:58 AM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 27, 2019, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely

I'm not picking him even if he gets named

"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
NM's key defender problem runs a lot deeper than Tarrant and SDT; Daw is still an unknown as far as recovery time goes and Durdin just cut his little finger off.

McKay is a last ditch option for mine at the moment, actually expect him to play a fair bit early on but at a very slow burn.
Wouldn't Ed Vickers-Willis be ahead of McKay?
I doubt they'd be competing for the same spot. Daw swung between forward and back last year and McKay gives them the same flexibility.

Holz

Quote from: Southstorm on February 28, 2019, 11:30:10 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 28, 2019, 12:03:58 AM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 27, 2019, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely

I'm not picking him even if he gets named

"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
NM's key defender problem runs a lot deeper than Tarrant and SDT; Daw is still an unknown as far as recovery time goes and Durdin just cut his little finger off.

McKay is a last ditch option for mine at the moment, actually expect him to play a fair bit early on but at a very slow burn.
Wouldn't Ed Vickers-Willis be ahead of McKay?
I doubt they'd be competing for the same spot. Daw swung between forward and back last year and McKay gives them the same flexibility.

Ed Vickers willis is reasonably tall (190cm) and can play the 3rd tall role that daw was having. Thompson and Tarrant still likely to play the FB and CHb roles.

I expect Mckay to be named round then dropped.




frenzy

Quote from: SilverLion on February 28, 2019, 12:03:58 AM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 27, 2019, 10:28:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely

I'm not picking him even if he gets named

"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."
NM's key defender problem runs a lot deeper than Tarrant and SDT; Daw is still an unknown as far as recovery time goes and Durdin just cut his little finger off.

McKay is a last ditch option for mine at the moment, actually expect him to play a fair bit early on but at a very slow burn.
Wouldn't Ed Vickers-Willis be ahead of McKay?

Yep, but coming back from a PCL injury. And would be surprised to see him in the JLT, as i don't think he's training with the main group or if he has, it would only be in the few weeks.

Mat0369

Walsh has to he the biggest lock of all locks. Holy crap he looks good

Money Shot

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2019, 07:50:39 PM
Walsh has to he the biggest lock of all locks. Holy crap he looks good
He was my first picked player this season. If a rookie was to go 100+ he would be it.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 28, 2019, 07:50:39 PM
Walsh has to he the biggest lock of all locks. Holy crap he looks good

I've always avoided the expensive rookies, but this guy is going to break the trend of most expensive rookies not being good SC picks

24 touches to 3/4 time in your first hitout is damn impressive

I could easily see myself comfortably starting him at M5 if I need to go deeper on other lines, or M6 at worst

RaisyDaisy

Setterfield has already tonned up early in the 4th too

crowls

Walsh was classy, vision, space good decisions, hard not to want to start him.
half way thru first preseason game and i already want to shoot langford!  got to be better options than this muppet.  exact opposite of walsh was dear in the headlights everytime he got the ball.  fffs
daniher looked fine to go.