2019 Rookies

Started by quinny88, November 22, 2018, 10:53:37 PM

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hawkers65

Quote from: Pokerface on February 25, 2019, 05:57:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 25, 2019, 05:34:35 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.

I've actually got both Cousins and Walsh in the moment, but it's purely just place holding still. Both options, but I need to see more before making a call on them

Cousins, having been in the system longer, and with no Titch around seems like the front runner for mine. 75+ a real chance if he holds down a spot in the mids, and at 219k he should make some cash too but still need to see more before committing

If you knew he would play each week he is a great pick. And it's definitely possible. But I don't think it's certain. Too much of a selection/rotation risk. Clarko has definitely been known to drop well-performing younger players after a few games.

When has he dropped well performing younger players? He definitely doesn't play them early on, he makes the younger guys really earn their spots but once they earn it they tend to stay there... Just look at Morrison, Hardwick, Sicily, Worpel etc. Cousins has been in the system a while now but never really cracked into the 22. This is his year.

eaglesman

Quote from: hawkers65 on February 25, 2019, 06:11:47 PM
Quote from: Pokerface on February 25, 2019, 05:57:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 25, 2019, 05:34:35 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.

I've actually got both Cousins and Walsh in the moment, but it's purely just place holding still. Both options, but I need to see more before making a call on them

Cousins, having been in the system longer, and with no Titch around seems like the front runner for mine. 75+ a real chance if he holds down a spot in the mids, and at 219k he should make some cash too but still need to see more before committing

If you knew he would play each week he is a great pick. And it's definitely possible. But I don't think it's certain. Too much of a selection/rotation risk. Clarko has definitely been known to drop well-performing younger players after a few games.

When has he dropped well performing younger players? He definitely doesn't play them early on, he makes the younger guys really earn their spots but once they earn it they tend to stay there... Just look at Morrison, Hardwick, Sicily, Worpel etc. Cousins has been in the system a while now but never really cracked into the 22. This is his year.

Would be an automatic selection in fwd ...

I have always liked him and the potential he promises.

Hard to pick.

Pokerface

Quote from: hawkers65 on February 25, 2019, 06:11:47 PM
Quote from: Pokerface on February 25, 2019, 05:57:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 25, 2019, 05:34:35 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.

I've actually got both Cousins and Walsh in the moment, but it's purely just place holding still. Both options, but I need to see more before making a call on them

Cousins, having been in the system longer, and with no Titch around seems like the front runner for mine. 75+ a real chance if he holds down a spot in the mids, and at 219k he should make some cash too but still need to see more before committing

If you knew he would play each week he is a great pick. And it's definitely possible. But I don't think it's certain. Too much of a selection/rotation risk. Clarko has definitely been known to drop well-performing younger players after a few games.

When has he dropped well performing younger players? He definitely doesn't play them early on, he makes the younger guys really earn their spots but once they earn it they tend to stay there... Just look at Morrison, Hardwick, Sicily, Worpel etc. Cousins has been in the system a while now but never really cracked into the 22. This is his year.

Over the past couple of seasons Howe, Brand, Mirra (conceded he wasn't young), Worpel, Cousins, Miles as promising developing players have only needed one or two sub-par performances (or in some cases reasonable games) to be out the following week.
I'm probably wrong, and would love to see Cousins go bang. If he plays it will be predominately mid. But they can't all be taking Titch's spot, and Harry Jones is another giving competition for that spot.
For my SC team, I just don't think it's a risk worth taking when Walsh is guaranteed if uninjured (am not considering both).

Mat0369

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 25, 2019, 05:34:35 PM
I've actually got both Cousins and Walsh in the moment, but it's purely just place holding still. Both options, but I need to see more before making a call on them

Cousins, having been in the system longer, and with no Titch around seems like the front runner for mine. 75+ a real chance if he holds down a spot in the mids, and at 219k he should make some cash too but still need to see more before committing

Same. There appears to be a lot of potential mid rookies. The 200k guys generally don't make a ton of cash quickly off the bat, but you're paying for the increase in points. I am going to the game on Thursday and really keen to check out Walsh. Everything says he will be in the engine room from day dot and it makes me think he is a can't miss rookie.

Cousins fits the other group of guys you want to pick. Heading into their 2nd or third season, moderately priced with opportunity available. He hasn't had big numbers yet in his 9 or so games, but he is definitely worth holding as a place holder.

SilverLion

Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.

Holz

Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable

most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.

Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.

Pokerface

Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable

most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.

Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.

Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS

Ricochet

Quote from: Pokerface on February 26, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable

most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.

Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.

Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
Could be one to keep an eye on

'He’s been a standout.. We’ve had him on the wing so far & he’s been playing well' - Matthew Nicks on Jackson Hately via @SportsdaySA

quinny88

Quote from: Ricochet on February 26, 2019, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: Pokerface on February 26, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable

most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.

Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.

Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
Could be one to keep an eye on

'He’s been a standout.. We’ve had him on the wing so far & he’s been playing well' - Matthew Nicks on Jackson Hately via @SportsdaySA

Hasn't left my side

elephants

Quote from: Pokerface on February 26, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable

most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.

Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.

Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS

There is, but there's also Taranto and Hopper who are hungry for mid time. Throw in Perryman who had some rude number of centre bounce attendances in their intra against Sydney. FTR though I like Hately, anyone that has a season of senior SANFL under his bet is always a sniff

tommy10

Quote from: quinny88 on February 26, 2019, 10:05:40 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 26, 2019, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: Pokerface on February 26, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable

most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.

Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.

Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
Could be one to keep an eye on

'He’s been a standout.. We’ve had him on the wing so far & he’s been playing well' - Matthew Nicks on Jackson Hately via @SportsdaySA

Hasn't left my side
+1

HappyDEZ

Quote from: elephants on February 27, 2019, 12:07:28 AM
Quote from: Pokerface on February 26, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable

most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.

Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.

Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS

There is, but there's also Taranto and Hopper who are hungry for mid time. Throw in Perryman who had some rude number of centre bounce attendances in their intra against Sydney. FTR though I like Hately, anyone that has a season of senior SANFL under his bet is always a sniff
He certainly ticks a lot of boxes. Good price, AFL ready body & reasonable fantasy scoring ability.

HappyDEZ

Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?

Keeper27

Quote from: HappyDEZ on February 27, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?

he needs to avg 85 to reach $400K

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Keeper27 on February 27, 2019, 08:04:26 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on February 27, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?

he needs to avg 85 to reach $400K

Doesn't quite work like that

It's a week by week proposition. Pumping out regular big scores to keep the cash gen moving is what's required

At his price, a few 50-65 scores will halt the cash gen, and once he gets to 300k those scores hurt even more

He could very well get to 400k, but it's anybody's guess when that could happen. All I know is, he'll need to produce plenty of good scores to get there