2019 Rookies

[shaker]

Ok you West Coast people what about Jarrod Brander 135K what's going on with him any chance R1 and his scoring capabilities ?

[RaisyDaisy]

Any west coast supporters like Matthew Allens chances of an early debut? 123k fwd/mid whose been around a while but just moved into the midfield group and a video on the clubs website would suggest the players are a pretty big wrap for him

I highly doubt it, wouldn't rate his job security.  Imagine he debuted round 1 only to be covering for Gaff then straight out.  Don't think he's a chance to play regular games unless a few injuries happen, possibly a good downgrade target later in the year if in fact those injuries do pop up.

Ok you West Coast people what about Jarrod Brander 135K what's going on with him any chance R1 and his scoring capabilities ?

The only WCE rookie you should consider is Baines for R3 loophole

Foley would be the best chance of rookies if I had to guess, but I'm not expecting any rookies to play early for us so I'd suggest looking elsewhere for now

Brander will be given another chance at some point, but I don't think we can trust any WCE rookies for SC at this stage

[ubeaut]

I've been suggesting for quite a while now that we might be light on with def rookies to chose from which is why I am looking to go deep down back

Well, "The Phantom" has just posted an article about the Def rookies and here's his final verdict. I'll assume these are the only guys he rates as being a chance (and this guy must be lurking here because he's said everything I've said about each of them :P)

Connor Rozee: There are cheaper options but, all going well, Rozee will play majority of games in his debut season and looms as great cash cow in defence.

Isaac Quaynor: Might not be the highest-scoring rookie-price defender but we all know how important early games are. Keep him on the watchlist.

Xavier Duursma: Might be a JLT Series bolter.

Sam Collins: Lock him in â€" he’s worth the elevated price tag.

Marty Hore: The perfect bench option if the 23-year-old can break in.

Callum Wilkie: More likely an early-season downgrade option.

Chris Burgess: A very good chance to be there Round 1 but will his scoring translate playing in the Gold Coast forward line?

Corey Ellis: I’m not convinced.

Jack Scrimshaw: Doesn’t have the runs on the board but the potential is there.

Tom Williamson: The JLT Series will tell us what we need to know about the young Blue.

Harrison Wigg: Please, Stuey.

This is just one persons opinion after all, and we won't really know until we see some JLT but this guy has pretty much mirrored what I've been saying/thinking about each of these players too, which is why I think we need to go deep.

How deep are we talking though Rd?
I agree that def rookies are looking lighter than other lines, but is it that dire?
Rozee and Collins are just about locks to start round 1. That's 2 spots.
He didn't mention Logue who is rookie priced and should play 3rd tall interceptor role. That's 3.
Then we just need 1 or 2 of Williamson, Quaynor , Duursma,Hore or any bolter that often pops up late to play.
The deepest I think we'll have to go is a mid pricer at D4.
Last resort I might start Birchall, but no way I want to have an expensive D5.

[RaisyDaisy]

How deep are we talking though Rd?
I agree that def rookies are looking lighter than other lines, but is it that dire?
Rozee and Collins are just about locks to start round 1. That's 2 spots.
He didn't mention Logue who is rookie priced and should play 3rd tall interceptor role. That's 3.
Then we just need 1 or 2 of Williamson, Quaynor , Duursma,Hore or any bolter that often pops up late to play.
The deepest I think we'll have to go is a mid pricer at D4.
Last resort I might start Birchall, but no way I want to have an expensive D5.

Well that's what I mean - there won't be many cheap rookies at all

Collins/Rozee/Birch/Williamson these guys are all basically 200k, and we know how crap 200k rookies usually turn out to be in terms of cash generation and scoring. Quaynor/Logue 150k+ too

Basically, we can't have a cheap rookie on field imo. You need to field the expensive guys, and hope we get 2 cheapies just for the bench

[quinny88]

How deep are we talking though Rd?
I agree that def rookies are looking lighter than other lines, but is it that dire?
Rozee and Collins are just about locks to start round 1. That's 2 spots.
He didn't mention Logue who is rookie priced and should play 3rd tall interceptor role. That's 3.
Then we just need 1 or 2 of Williamson, Quaynor , Duursma,Hore or any bolter that often pops up late to play.
The deepest I think we'll have to go is a mid pricer at D4.
Last resort I might start Birchall, but no way I want to have an expensive D5.

Well that's what I mean - there won't be many cheap rookies at all

Collins/Rozee/Birch/Williamson these guys are all basically 200k, and we know how crap 200k rookies usually turn out to be in terms of cash generation and scoring. Quaynor/Logue 150k+ too

Basically, we can't have a cheap rookie on field imo. You need to field the expensive guys, and hope we get 2 cheapies just for the bench

At the moment I've got Rozee, Collins, Quaynor with Hoare and Wigg on the bench.

Keeping an eye out on Birchall, Burgess, Logue, Dursma, Scrimshaw and any others that pop up.

They are expensive but I like them more than the forward rookie options which is why I've got a mid priced F4 rather than D3

[shaker]

I've been suggesting for quite a while now that we might be light on with def rookies to chose from which is why I am looking to go deep down back

Well, "The Phantom" has just posted an article about the Def rookies and here's his final verdict. I'll assume these are the only guys he rates as being a chance (and this guy must be lurking here because he's said everything I've said about each of them :P)

Connor Rozee: There are cheaper options but, all going well, Rozee will play majority of games in his debut season and looms as great cash cow in defence.

Isaac Quaynor: Might not be the highest-scoring rookie-price defender but we all know how important early games are. Keep him on the watchlist.

Xavier Duursma: Might be a JLT Series bolter.

Sam Collins: Lock him in â€" he’s worth the elevated price tag.

Marty Hore: The perfect bench option if the 23-year-old can break in.

Callum Wilkie: More likely an early-season downgrade option.

Chris Burgess: A very good chance to be there Round 1 but will his scoring translate playing in the Gold Coast forward line?

Corey Ellis: I’m not convinced.

Jack Scrimshaw: Doesn’t have the runs on the board but the potential is there.

Tom Williamson: The JLT Series will tell us what we need to know about the young Blue.

Harrison Wigg: Please, Stuey.

This is just one persons opinion after all, and we won't really know until we see some JLT but this guy has pretty much mirrored what I've been saying/thinking about each of these players too, which is why I think we need to go deep.

Ok all that means to me is that there are 2 people that don't know what there talking about  ;D but seriously even after JLT and we have all have the rookies that shone out in our teams then the R1 teams are named and a lot of the certain starters don't get a game happens every year , so whoever starts R1 is in the team.

One of my rules of SC is never start a rookie that is not named R1 thinking they will next week except for one loophole , so if they are expensive or if they are cheap does not matter you have to fit your team around starting rookies.

[RaisyDaisy]

Michael Gibbons is sounding like a very good chance of getting picked up by Carlton, and even debuting Round 1

Not available atm in SC, but what would he come in at? Surely 102k?

Either way, another lock mid. Might even just place a 102k rookie at M11 for the time being and reserve that for Gibbons

[Fid]

Michael Gibbons is sounding like a very good chance of getting picked up by Carlton, and even debuting Round 1

Not available atm in SC, but what would he come in at? Surely 102k?

Either way, another lock mid. Might even just place a 102k rookie at M11 for the time being and reserve that for Gibbons

Someone like Tobe Watson who also is a chance of playing R1

[quinny88]

Would be super handy of both of them got named round 1

[_wato]

I'm hearing from a mate who regularly watches Carlton training, and that is that Setterfield may not be right until Round 3 or 4 and that Stocker looks lost out there in match sim, not even close to being ready to go.

[RaisyDaisy]

I'm hearing from a mate who regularly watches Carlton training, and that is that Setterfield may not be right until Round 3 or 4 and that Stocker looks lost out there in match sim, not even close to being ready to go.

Yeah I dropped Stocker from side a few weeks ago - from everything I've heard over the past couple of months I just figured he was no chance for Round 1, and will likely be a downgrade option later in the year

As for Setterfield he is overcoming an injury, but I think I read something recently that suggested he is pushing to be ready for Round 1. Hopefully we see him in JLT

If Setters misses Round 1, I'd still pick him to use for loophole where possible because he's a lock to play once fit so why waste the trade

[Ringo]

I'm hearing from a mate who regularly watches Carlton training, and that is that Setterfield may not be right until Round 3 or 4 and that Stocker looks lost out there in match sim, not even close to being ready to go.

Yeah I dropped Stocker from side a few weeks ago - from everything I've heard over the past couple of months I just figured he was no chance for Round 1, and will likely be a downgrade option later in the year

As for Setterfield he is overcoming an injury, but I think I read something recently that suggested he is pushing to be ready for Round 1. Hopefully we see him in JLT

If Setters misses Round 1, I'd still pick him to use for loophole where possible because he's a lock to play once fit so why waste the trade

We just wait and see who is up for Rd 1 - Stocker should be easily replaced and Setterfield as RD says is a certainty to play when fit if not Rd 1 so if either bench is playing which you what from Rd 1 sit him there till he plays. Trades as we know are important so why waste one getting him back in when he does play.

[_wato]

Not that easy - say he doesn’t debut till Rd 3/4 to be conservative (which they will be considering their injury list) he might not be on the bubble till Rd 6/7 which is enough time for a good rook to make 150k+

[eaglesman]

In reply to comments about eagles rookies... absolutely no chance any of them get permanent game time(but brander will be a gun of the Comp one day)
Gibbons looks like he will be a SuperCoach gift for us all.
Tom Williamson will be a lock for the blues but doubt he will be a good Sc scorer.

[GoLions]

Not that easy - say he doesn’t debut till Rd 3/4 to be conservative (which they will be considering their injury list) he might not be on the bubble till Rd 6/7 which is enough time for a good rook to make 150k+

Would you want to trade a good rookie that early though? More likely you trade one that has been spudding it and/or dropped haha