2019 Rookies

Started by quinny88, November 22, 2018, 10:53:37 PM

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shaker

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2019, 05:40:19 PM
If we're lucky enough to get a playing rookie ruck at R3 what are people thinking about doing loophole wise?

I'm thinking Rozee/Burgess could be the way to go, assuming one of them (likely Burgess) isn't named round 1, allow us to not only use him to loophole our VC/C but it would also mean you have Rozee available on both lines as DEF/FWD

I don't think Rozee will score very well, especially as he is training as a half forward, but his JS and DPP might be enough of a pay off
M11 for me we have the extra player in the mids and there are numerous DPP's from several clubs at 102K

quinny88

Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6  :'(

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 03:26:36 PM
Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6  :'(

You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8

Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc

quinny88

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2019, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 03:26:36 PM
Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6  :'(

You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8

Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc

Do you know how Birch is travelling? Haven't heard anything about him since that latest operation before Xmas

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2019, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 03:26:36 PM
Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6  :'(

You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8

Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc

Do you know how Birch is travelling? Haven't heard anything about him since that latest operation before Xmas

Read something yesterday that suggested he is back out there, but not with the main group yet

quinny88

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2019, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2019, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 03:26:36 PM
Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6  :'(

You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8

Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc

Do you know how Birch is travelling? Haven't heard anything about him since that latest operation before Xmas

Read something yesterday that suggested he is back out there, but not with the main group yet

That's frustrating. I want to see him play atleast 1 JLT game

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 05:30:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2019, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2019, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 03:26:36 PM
Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6  :'(

You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8

Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc

Do you know how Birch is travelling? Haven't heard anything about him since that latest operation before Xmas

Read something yesterday that suggested he is back out there, but not with the main group yet

That's frustrating. I want to see him play atleast 1 JLT game

I'm sure I'll change my mind 100 more times and maybe I'll give him a chance, but for the time being I'm off Birch and anyone else who's had an interrupted preseason

The reality is Birch will likely put up 70-80 most weeks anyway, so won't miss out on heaps of points, but his JS is the appeal however his body is shot so I'm hoping they'll be enough def rookies that I won't need him

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2019, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 05:30:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2019, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2019, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 31, 2019, 03:26:36 PM
Remember last year when we had Doedee, Finlayson and Murray locked at D4-D6  :'(

You could possibly have one of Birch/Rozee and Collins locked at D4 & D5, and then just hope 3 decent rookies get named to fill out D6-8

Personally, I'm looking to go with Williams at D4 for now, just to bolster things there, but there's a chance you could get away with a lighter def if you're willing to spend a bit more on Birch/Rozee/Collins/Quaynor etc

Do you know how Birch is travelling? Haven't heard anything about him since that latest operation before Xmas

Read something yesterday that suggested he is back out there, but not with the main group yet

That's frustrating. I want to see him play atleast 1 JLT game

I'm sure I'll change my mind 100 more times and maybe I'll give him a chance, but for the time being I'm off Birch and anyone else who's had an interrupted preseason

The reality is Birch will likely put up 70-80 most weeks anyway, so won't miss out on heaps of points, but his JS is the appeal however his body is shot so I'm hoping they'll be enough def rookies that I won't need him


A 200k guy dropping 70-80 would be huge

the 200k mids last year where only dropping 50-65


RaisyDaisy

"Huge" is a bit of a stretch

200k mid are always crap to pick anyway

117-123k rookies could put up close enough scores some weeks, and are way cheaper and they aren't walking injuries like Birch

eaglesman

Tom north according to Adam Cerra and the west Australian 123k .... would be nice

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 31, 2019, 08:44:23 PM
"Huge" is a bit of a stretch

200k mid are always crap to pick anyway

117-123k rookies could put up close enough scores some weeks, and are way cheaper and they aren't walking injuries like Birch

yeah but think of it this way. The good cheap rookies everyone has so really you need to compare the 4th or 5th best rookie on that line against birchall. So from last year your comparing 70-80 from Birchall not to Ed Richards or Doedee who where locks but more guys like Lachlan Murphy.

First 7 games.

Brayshaw last year put up 54
Cerra put up 62
Dow put up 53

So if birchall can put up even a 70 average for say 7 rounds ill be super stoked with that.



RaisyDaisy

Josh Corbett and Chris Burgess "haven't missed a beat"

"Collins started really well but then had a bit of a niggle in his knee - we think he's going to be a contributor"

Hmmm, hopefully it's not much but was hoping for something a little more solid on Collins

quinny88

Any west coast supporters like Matthew Allens chances of an early debut? 123k fwd/mid whose been around a while but just moved into the midfield group and a video on the clubs website would suggest the players are a pretty big wrap for him

jvalles69

Quote from: quinny88 on February 04, 2019, 12:53:20 AM
Any west coast supporters like Matthew Allens chances of an early debut? 123k fwd/mid whose been around a while but just moved into the midfield group and a video on the clubs website would suggest the players are a pretty big wrap for him

I highly doubt it, wouldn't rate his job security.  Imagine he debuted round 1 only to be covering for Gaff then straight out.  Don't think he's a chance to play regular games unless a few injuries happen, possibly a good downgrade target later in the year if in fact those injuries do pop up.

RaisyDaisy

I've been suggesting for quite a while now that we might be light on with def rookies to chose from which is why I am looking to go deep down back

Well, "The Phantom" has just posted an article about the Def rookies and here's his final verdict. I'll assume these are the only guys he rates as being a chance (and this guy must be lurking here because he's said everything I've said about each of them :P)

Connor Rozee: There are cheaper options but, all going well, Rozee will play majority of games in his debut season and looms as great cash cow in defence.

Isaac Quaynor: Might not be the highest-scoring rookie-price defender but we all know how important early games are. Keep him on the watchlist.

Xavier Duursma: Might be a JLT Series bolter.

Sam Collins: Lock him in â€" he’s worth the elevated price tag.

Marty Hore: The perfect bench option if the 23-year-old can break in.

Callum Wilkie: More likely an early-season downgrade option.

Chris Burgess: A very good chance to be there Round 1 but will his scoring translate playing in the Gold Coast forward line?

Corey Ellis: I’m not convinced.

Jack Scrimshaw: Doesn’t have the runs on the board but the potential is there.

Tom Williamson: The JLT Series will tell us what we need to know about the young Blue.

Harrison Wigg: Please, Stuey.

This is just one persons opinion after all, and we won't really know until we see some JLT but this guy has pretty much mirrored what I've been saying/thinking about each of these players too, which is why I think we need to go deep.