2019 Rookies

Started by quinny88, November 22, 2018, 10:53:37 PM

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Money Shot

Quote from: Keeper27 on February 27, 2019, 08:04:26 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on February 27, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?

he needs to avg 85 to reach $400K
I know I’m biased but I don’t think that’s unrealistic. Kid is already one of our best players ;D

Holz

Quote from: Money Shot on February 27, 2019, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 27, 2019, 08:04:26 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on February 27, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?

he needs to avg 85 to reach $400K
I know I’m biased but I don’t think that’s unrealistic. Kid is already one of our best players ;D

he doesnt need to drop 85 and get up to 400k to be a decent pick. Most rookies you are looking at the realm of 100-125k price rise. Some of these 123k rookies go up above 250k+ but not all of them.

If he can put up a 70 and then rise 100k+ then thats a decent pick up. At 209k he has to do something crazy and go 80+ to be a great pick but realistically he just needs to be a solid pick because you need to compare him to what say the 5th or 6th best mid rookie will do

So its walsh v atkins/sparrow etc...

he has great JS and if guys like atkins sparrow cant string together 6-7 games at a 55+ average then walsh doesnt need to do anything special to beat that.

I currently dont have him as i have stacked my mids with 6 premos and then im happy with 4 out of the 5 mid rookies. If i cant find a solid 5th sparrow or atkins then walsh and cousins have to come into the equation.

Just need to be realisitic on what you can expect from the 4th or 5th best mid pick after Bewley Hind and Gibbons. I dont see atkins or Sparrow going up to 330k so no reason you need to rate walsh that high to pick him.


HappyDEZ

Quote from: Holz on February 27, 2019, 09:27:55 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on February 27, 2019, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 27, 2019, 08:04:26 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on February 27, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 25, 2019, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 25, 2019, 04:41:33 PM
Throwing out Cousins as an alternate for Walsh at the same price point.
Reminds me of Brodie vs. Brayshaw last year.
I like Walsh from what I have heard/read. He does come at a price though. Anybody out there got any idea roughly what sort of average he would need (lets assume he plays every game) to get to $400K at his Rd14 bye?
he needs to avg 85 to reach $400K
I know I’m biased but I don’t think that’s unrealistic. Kid is already one of our best players ;D

he doesnt need to drop 85 and get up to 400k to be a decent pick. Most rookies you are looking at the realm of 100-125k price rise. Some of these 123k rookies go up above 250k+ but not all of them.

If he can put up a 70 and then rise 100k+ then thats a decent pick up. At 209k he has to do something crazy and go 80+ to be a great pick but realistically he just needs to be a solid pick because you need to compare him to what say the 5th or 6th best mid rookie will do

So its walsh v atkins/sparrow etc...

he has great JS and if guys like atkins sparrow cant string together 6-7 games at a 55+ average then walsh doesnt need to do anything special to beat that.

I currently dont have him as i have stacked my mids with 6 premos and then im happy with 4 out of the 5 mid rookies. If i cant find a solid 5th sparrow or atkins then walsh and cousins have to come into the equation.

Just need to be realisitic on what you can expect from the 4th or 5th best mid pick after Bewley Hind and Gibbons. I dont see atkins or Sparrow going up to 330k so no reason you need to rate walsh that high to pick him.
85 is a lot. I was hoping 70-75 (which is what I think he can score) would be enough. Ah well. He stays for now.

GoLions

Quote from: tommy10 on February 27, 2019, 02:36:10 AM
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Quote from: Holz on February 26, 2019, 09:01:25 AM
Im certainly looking at cousins but being the number 1 pick (walsh) he will get given chances that other players wont just because they know fans want to see him play. Also it doesnt seems like much but cousins at 12,600 more is sizeable

most people i talk to seem to really rate the mid rookies.

Hind Gibbons Bewley look great but besides them im not sure who really stand up. Constable or Atkins look alright if they can get games but outside of them im seeing alot more cheap fwds and cheapish defenders.

Bit pricier but Hately will be a gun. In your Constable/Atkins bracket, but it's being well spruiked there is mid room at GWS
Could be one to keep an eye on

'He’s been a standout.. We’ve had him on the wing so far & he’s been playing well' - Matthew Nicks on Jackson Hately via @SportsdaySA

Hasn't left my side
+1
Probably been my biggest rookie lock since SC opened

frenzy

having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out.  ::)

hawkers65

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Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out.  ::)

JOM and Crouch both did it in the same year. Dont know if they were the last though.

EDIT: Mills did 78, Witherden did 87. Other than that i dont think theres anymore who even got close to 80. But in saying that Walsh has been widely tipped as the bes player to walk through the draft and would go #1 in any of the previous last few years

Holz

Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out.  ::)

JOM and Crouch both did it in the same year. Dont know if they were the last though.

EDIT: Mills did 78, Witherden did 87. Other than that i dont think theres anymore who even got close to 80. But in saying that Walsh has been widely tipped as the bes player to walk through the draft and would go #1 in any of the previous last few years

JOM and Crouch both had 1 year in the system. JOM played for an expansion club.

80+ would be a huge ask i dont think i can remember the last time a 18 year old kid went 80+ in his first year in the system, not coming from an expansion club.

i can only think of players who went 80+ that fit into one of the above categories.

hawkers65

Quote from: Holz on February 27, 2019, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out.  ::)

JOM and Crouch both did it in the same year. Dont know if they were the last though.

EDIT: Mills did 78, Witherden did 87. Other than that i dont think theres anymore who even got close to 80. But in saying that Walsh has been widely tipped as the bes player to walk through the draft and would go #1 in any of the previous last few years

JOM and Crouch both had 1 year in the system. JOM played for an expansion club.

80+ would be a huge ask i dont think i can remember the last time a 18 year old kid went 80+ in his first year in the system, not coming from an expansion club.

i can only think of players who went 80+ that fit into one of the above categories.

Witherden ;) But even he played limited games

GoLions

Tbf the Bloos are basically what Suns were initially atm

RaisyDaisy

Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely

I'm not picking him even if he gets named

"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."

hawkers65

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely

I'm not picking him even if he gets named

"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."

Its the perfect rookie trap for the beginners. They'll see the green dot for 123k and slot him in.

GoLions

Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely

I'm not picking him even if he gets named

"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."

Its the perfect rookie trap for the beginners. They'll see the green dot for 123k and slot him in.
I think i saw him in kb's team

Ringo

Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:24:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 27, 2019, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out.  ::)

JOM and Crouch both did it in the same year. Dont know if they were the last though.

EDIT: Mills did 78, Witherden did 87. Other than that i dont think theres anymore who even got close to 80. But in saying that Walsh has been widely tipped as the bes player to walk through the draft and would go #1 in any of the previous last few years

JOM and Crouch both had 1 year in the system. JOM played for an expansion club.

80+ would be a huge ask i dont think i can remember the last time a 18 year old kid went 80+ in his first year in the system, not coming from an expansion club.

i can only think of players who went 80+ that fit into one of the above categories.

Witherden ;) But even he played limited games
Daniel Rich went 85 in his first season and played all games.

hawkers65

Quote from: Ringo on February 27, 2019, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:24:49 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 27, 2019, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on February 27, 2019, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
having trouble remembering the last rookie to go 85, give me a chop out.  ::)

JOM and Crouch both did it in the same year. Dont know if they were the last though.

EDIT: Mills did 78, Witherden did 87. Other than that i dont think theres anymore who even got close to 80. But in saying that Walsh has been widely tipped as the bes player to walk through the draft and would go #1 in any of the previous last few years

JOM and Crouch both had 1 year in the system. JOM played for an expansion club.

80+ would be a huge ask i dont think i can remember the last time a 18 year old kid went 80+ in his first year in the system, not coming from an expansion club.

i can only think of players who went 80+ that fit into one of the above categories.

Witherden ;) But even he played limited games
Daniel Rich went 85 in his first season and played all games.

We were talking this millennium chief... Who did it last ;)

frenzy

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
Still don't rate his JS or scoring ability, but McKay sounding like a real chance to play Round 1 - problem is Tarrant and SDT both return the following week most likely

I'm not picking him even if he gets named

"We've got a lot of key-position players that can play down there, the obvious one is probably Benny McKay who's played a few games so far for us down there and looked the goods."

Damn, what's it gonna take to convince ya.  ;D