BBL|08: Official Fantasy & Supercoach Discussion

[Koop]

gee theyre leaving it a bit late!  :o

[nrich102]

gee theyre leaving it a bit late!  :o

I thought they normally left it until about early December to start.

[shaker]

gee theyre leaving it a bit late!  :o

I thought they normally left it until about early December to start.

Are there prizes in the official one ?

[Koop]

gee theyre leaving it a bit late!  :o

I thought they normally left it until about early December to start.

Has usually been mid-November. Currently we've got about 2 weeks left & still nothing.  :o

[Koop]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PK2BsMeSoInHjntRpexjYt6DkjzLPO0fyguQPQKOAlQ/edit?usp=sharing

Nige & I have done our predicted best XI's for the upcoming season. PB may do so too if he has the time. You can also find the updated squads in that spreadsheet as well.


Some notes from my end

Adelaide - Head will miss with AU commitments, everyone should slide up a spot & likely Matt Short will come in at 6.

Brisbane - N/A

Hurricanes - Paine will miss with AU commitments. Expect Wade to open alongside Short & Doran (at present) to come in down the order. The Canes did also use Milenko as a straight bat last season so that is also possible.

Renegades - Who opens alongside Ludeman with both openers gone with AU commitments? Money is on Bear but it leaves a weakened batting lineup behind it. Expect lesser lights such as Harvey, Webster & Sutherland to play some part as the season starts. Tremain should also miss with AU commitments but they're well stocked in that regard. Boyce will come in if they want 2 spinners, Mennie if they want a seamer.

Stars - Handscomb will miss with AU duties so expect Dunk to take the gloves. The Stars are in a good spot when it comes to flexibility, as Handscomb's replacement could be anyone from Worrall (Gotch going up to 6), Dean (Stoinis going down to 6 & Dean opening) to even Evan Gulbis. Hard to make a call there.

Scorchers - Absolutely stacked squad. Both Marsh brothers should miss & their lineup could be one of a number of options. Based on what happened last season it'll be either Whiteman or Willey opening with Klinger, with the other being somewhere in the 6-8 region. Bancroft will come straight back into #3 on his return (Dec 30th). The fact that Paris & Matt Kelly don't make this XI is bonkers. Qadir will also be handy for pitches such as Etihad.

Sixers - Lyon replaced by likely Pope. Also feel the Sixers batting depth is a touch weak, so I'd expect a Jordan Silk re-signing in the next few days to bat 5 ahead of Edwards.

Thunder - Cummins & Khawaja will miss with the test team. Patterson will open alongisde Watson with Ryan Gibson the likely replacement at 6. Although Sangha may be a shout if Watto has had enough of Green being a flat out meme. Ahmed will come in for Cummins, with everyone shifting one spot up the order with Ahmed at 11.

[Nige]

I echo a lot of what Coop said and I'll probably go into more details in the coming days with my own thoughts so stay tuned.

[Ringo]

Just started to consider the draw and Scorchers and Heat have the double in Rd 1. Lynn C probably a certainty for me.

My team as it stands at the moment.  Reserves may change though to balance.

[Gigantor]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PK2BsMeSoInHjntRpexjYt6DkjzLPO0fyguQPQKOAlQ/edit?usp=sharing

Nige & I have done our predicted best XI's for the upcoming season. PB may do so too if he has the time. You can also find the updated squads in that spreadsheet as well.


Scorchers - Absolutely stacked squad. Both Marsh brothers should miss & their lineup could be one of a number of options. Based on what happened last season it'll be either Whiteman or Willey opening with Klinger, with the other being somewhere in the 6-8 region. Bancroft will come straight back into #3 on his return (Dec 30th). The fact that Paris & Matt Kelly don't make this XI is bonkers. Qadir will also be handy for pitches such as Etihad.

Scorchers are really tough to pick, feel like one of Tye, NCN, Dorf and Richardson could miss with Willey and MMarsh in the team, which is crazy considering they've all played for the national side. On paper it should be Richo but they really like his pace.

Feel like Qadir won't get many chances if Agar is available. Turner has started to bowl so he is the 2nd spin option

Whiteman is really out of favour so I think Inglis will keep until Bancroft returns

Will be one top line batsman short for the two games before Bancroft is back (Assuming Smarsh stays in the Aus XI :) )

My stab and a game 1 XI is below:

Michael    KLINGER
David    WILLEY
Hilton   CARTWRIGHT
Mitch    MARSH
Ashton    TURNER
Ashton    AGAR
Nathan   COULTER-NILE
Josh         INGLIS (wk)
Jhye          RICHARDSON
Andrew    TYE
Jason   BEHRENDORFF

Ridiculous bowling fire power, 6 Front liners plus Marsh and Turner (Cartwright bowled 1 over last season so he doesn't count)
Agar at 6 might seem a bit weak but there isn't another batsman available. Will look so much stronger come the 3rd game when Bancroft replaces Inglis

Would love to see Voges throw NCN in as an opener like the Gades did with Narine.

Best XI would be:

Michael    KLINGER
Shaun    MARSH
Hilton   CARTWRIGHT
Mitch    MARSH
Ashton    TURNER
Cameron    BANCROFT(wk)
David    WILLEY
Ashton    AGAR
Nathan   COULTER-NILE
Andrew    TYE
Jason   BEHRENDORFF

Klinger/Cartwright out for Richardson if they wanted more bowling firepower.

[Nige]

Maddog got his arm broken by Jhye today so rip the messiah.

Means that one of Travis Dean or Jonathan Merlo probably comes in, maybe Evan Gulbis.

Dean's obviously a specialist batsman, whereas Merlo is an allrounder who can bowl pace.

[Chelskiman]

League is full. :(

[fanTCfool]

gee theyre leaving it a bit late!  :o

I thought they normally left it until about early December to start.

Has usually been mid-November. Currently we've got about 2 weeks left & still nothing.  :o

RIP Official.

[Chelskiman]

First crack.  What do you guys think?  Good, bad, hit the reset button?

[Koop]

League is full. :(

Fanfooty #2 - 185926

Added to the OP. :)



So it's official, RIP official BBL fantasy, looks like they've transitioned to a DraftStars/Moneyball format. Such a flowering shame. Had a fantastic layout, a booming playerbase and an actual decent mobile app. SuperCoach it is I guess. :(

Better start looking at my team  :P

[Koop]

Really struggling to build a team that I'm 100% happy with here. But this is what I have so far, with reasoning.

BAT1 - D'Arcy Short  - Very nearly went Bravo here as he's a personal favourite of mine, and one I've started every season possible with, but Short has to be picked, although purely as a defensive option. Was completely found out in the IPL by spin, but his domestic form speaks for itself. Has the capacity to burn me much more than Bravo does, so is here solely for that alone.

BAT2 - David Willey - Opening bowler for the Scorchers who is also a potential opening bat for them as well. Logical, safe choice.

BAT3 - Jofra Archer - Picks himself. 4 T20 MATCHES without a wicket in 2018 speaks for itself really.

BAT4 - Brendan McCullum - Hasn't been in brilliant form in 2018 and probably wouldn't have picked him if not for the DGW first up. Only 3 50's in a year of T20 competitions and likely becomes Wade or a Strikers bowler via DPP for GW2 & onward. Keeps my streak of starting with him every year too.

BAT5 - Colin Ingram - Adelaide bias shining through, but will bat first drop for the Strikers in Head's absence. Can bowl a bit & performed absolutely sublimely in England over their summer once again. Very obviously prefers slow & low wickets from both his BBL & English records, and where are two of his first 3 games? Metricon & Etihad. Has the DGW in Rd 2 so more than willing to punt that he does well against the Heat's shower bowling attack in Round 1.

WKP1 - Jos Buttler - Tried so hard to justify saving money here with an initial Wade pick, but I don't think you can ignore his 2018 form. Absolutely tore the last half of the IPL season to shreds, scoring 67, 51, 82, 95, 94 & 39 in his last 6 innings of the tournament. Been fantastic at international level too, having 2 centuries & a further 4 50+ scores so far in 2018.

BWL1 - Rashid Khan - Picks himself. Tore it up last year, tore up the IPL with 21 wickets at a 6.7 ER, took 10 in 4 games against Bangladesh and 7 in 2 against Ireland. Absolute no-brainer.

BWL2 - Andrew Tye - Gotta pick the guy who topped both the IPL (24 wickets at an 8 ER & 14 SR) and JLT OD (18  wickets in 6 games), don't you? White ball royalty at this point.

BWL3 - Jason Behrendorff - Remember this guy? He's finally fit again! Despite the fact that SC jacked up both his & NCN's prices despite their absence, I still think he's worth picking. Although you can't go wrong with either & NCN does bat higher....

BWL4 - Usman Khan Shinwari - This guy is going to cause A LOT of problems for batsman this summer, right-handers especially. Left-arm quick who gets movement & seam through the air not seen since probably Wasim. Took the 3rd fastest 5fa in ODI history (21 balls) against Sri Lanka. Like Mujeeb though, can't really bat. So expect him at 10 or 11.

BWL5 - Mujeeb Ur Rahman - The new Rashid. He's young, Afghani, and has been extremely economical to date. Had tidy figures in both the IPL & Vitality T20 blast. Probably doesn't possess the same tricks as Rashid, but will be very handy for the Heat nonetheless.




BAT6 - Max Bryant  -  Bryant is a stand and slog kinda operator, but they could favour him over Heazlett at the top given that's the dynamic of the Heat's top order, and has been for quite a few years. If Heazlett opens again, I'll probably work some magic to get him instead.

BAT7 - Jack Edwards - Have an inkling he may get games for the Sixers. Flexible spot for anyone who pops up late like Sams from last year.

WKP2 - Josh Philippe - Should bat in the top 4 for the Sixers. Won't take the gloves with Nevill in the team, but for 42k a top 4 bat is all you really want.

BWL6 - James Pattinson - LOCK - and should be fairly obvious why. Cheap, first choice seamer for the Heat, and should bat at 8. Bargain.

BWL7 - Sandeep Lamichhane - First choice spinner for the Stars. Haven't seen enough exposed form against quality opposition to start him with any confidence, but at 62k there are FAR worse bench options going around.



OTHER OPTIONS

Dwayne Bravo -  Man.... I'm absolutely gutted I can't find room for him. Has become more of a bowler as his career has progressed into the twilight, but he can do both at ease with amazing quality. :'(

I've got the feeling that this is the breakout summer for Daniel Sams after what he produced in the JLT. Doesn't start due to other options, but is a very handy POD and will come into heavy consideration after the first few GW's. Arjun Nair likewise. 

Shane Watson is continuing to do Shane Watson things. Solid option again who shouldn't do you wrong.

Travis Dean could be a bargain buy if he opens alongside Ben Dunk, who surely can't have as bad of a season as he did last year?

Billy Stanlake is also doing Billy Stanlake things, could start for me, but will definitely be in there come GW2. Splitting hairs between him & Ben Laughlin, who will probably also feature for me in GW2. Both had extremely solid IPL campaigns.

Matthew Wade is ridiculously close to starting for me. Will open for the Hurricanes alongside Short & is in fantastic Shield touch. Would save some much-needed cash as well so he is one I'm mulling over. Has the DGW in GW3.

Scott Boland is taking wickets for fun in the Shield, and could be a very interesting POD selection.

Joe Denly is in good touch with both bat & ball and had a really good backend to the summer last time out. Very likely to come in GW2 in preperation for GW3. Will 100% open for the Sixers.

Seems like I say this every year but Daniel Hughes is in fantastic nick in the Shield. Not sure I can do that again though with his strike rate.

Chris Lynn is still extremely suspect to spin, and with Rashid first up, I can't do it. One of those ones that has the potential to completely burn me however.

Joe Burns is in fantastic shield nick, and going Short to Bravo & Baz to Burns is an option I am considering. Would be in if I had one more spot.

Plenty more besides that, Cameron White will be solid as always. Jono Wells is an attractive bench option if he bats inside the top 4 in Head's absence. Hilton Cartwright is always an option batting in the top 4 despite his form. Alex Carey is Alex Carey.

[nrich102]

League is full. :(

Fanfooty #2 - 185926

Added to the OP. :)



So it's official, RIP official BBL fantasy, looks like they've transitioned to a DraftStars/Moneyball format. Such a flowering shame. Had a fantastic layout, a booming playerbase and an actual decent mobile app. SuperCoach it is I guess. :(

Better start looking at my team  :P

Far out that sucks. Time to register for supercoach I guess.