General Discussion for the 2018/19 season.

Started by Ringo, September 29, 2018, 09:39:25 AM

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Ringo

Starting for the new season and seeking comments on this.

Currently we have no rules for players that have been forcibly de-listed from their franchise due to no longer being at an AFL Club and subsequently picked up at a following draft.

How should this be treated?
Automatically go into the National Draft/Rookie Draft depending on draft taken in:
Coach of Franchise that player was delisted from having first preference on him by using 2nd rookie draft pick. (This is only a suggested bid and could be further refined.

Any other suggestions welcome.

SilverLion

If a player is delisted by an AFL club (and therefore forced to be delisted by their BXVs club), but is then picked up by another AFL club during either the NAT/Rookie/Delisted Free Agency??, then their BXVs club should have first access to them should they want them IMO and shouldn't need to bid on their own player.

GoLions

Quote from: SilverLion on September 29, 2018, 10:31:53 AM
If a player is delisted by an AFL club (and therefore forced to be delisted by their BXVs club), but is then picked up by another AFL club during either the NAT/Rookie/Delisted Free Agency??, then their BXVs club should have first access to them should they want them IMO and shouldn't need to bid on their own player.
Yeah i reckon just use last pick available

nas

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Quote from: GoLions on September 29, 2018, 11:02:33 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on September 29, 2018, 10:31:53 AM
If a player is delisted by an AFL club (and therefore forced to be delisted by their BXVs club), but is then picked up by another AFL club during either the NAT/Rookie/Delisted Free Agency??, then their BXVs club should have first access to them should they want them IMO and shouldn't need to bid on their own player.
Yeah i reckon just use last pick available

Yep, last Rookie pick, but somewhere say that your going to redraft the player?

SydneyRox

Quote from: GoLions on September 29, 2018, 11:02:33 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on September 29, 2018, 10:31:53 AM
If a player is delisted by an AFL club (and therefore forced to be delisted by their BXVs club), but is then picked up by another AFL club during either the NAT/Rookie/Delisted Free Agency??, then their BXVs club should have first access to them should they want them IMO and shouldn't need to bid on their own player.
Yeah i reckon just use last pick available

yup, happy with this one.

Like Nas said, just at the start of the BXV draft, nominate you will use the final pick on them.


iZander

Quote from: SydneyRox on October 01, 2018, 11:36:50 AM
Quote from: GoLions on September 29, 2018, 11:02:33 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on September 29, 2018, 10:31:53 AM
If a player is delisted by an AFL club (and therefore forced to be delisted by their BXVs club), but is then picked up by another AFL club during either the NAT/Rookie/Delisted Free Agency??, then their BXVs club should have first access to them should they want them IMO and shouldn't need to bid on their own player.
Yeah i reckon just use last pick available

yup, happy with this one.

Like Nas said, just at the start of the BXV draft, nominate you will use the final pick on them.
Yeah agreed, this is what it should have always been

#robbedofkelly

SilverLion

Think the mid-season rookie draft being introduced next year will also need to be considered. Not sure how this will effect fantasy comps in general.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-04/afl-brings-in-midseason-rookie-draft-for-2019-

Ringo

With the mid season draft being introduced do we consider a mid season draft.

Will need to see what the AFL rules are as well before implementing.

Things to consider if it is implemented.
AFL proposes to do as it end of Rd 10 (TBC) - So what will the draft order be as at end of Rd 10 or ladder positions end of 2018.

If a draft is to replace a player with season ending injury how do we treat end of season is the drafted player automatically de-listed when the injured player is returned or does coach have the option of keeping the player providing list is no more than 47.   eg Silver Lion could have selected Logan Austin to replace Sam Docherty. When Docherty returns next year what happens to Austin does SL have the option to keep him?

If a de-listed pllayer is picked up in the mid season draft what actions should we take eg Should the coach who de-listed be given a chance to redraft by de-listing another player or is that opportunity one.

LF


Ringo

Quote from: LF on October 04, 2018, 10:57:41 PM
Can this even be done on UF anyway?
Good question and we probably will not know the answer till UF announces rules for next season. Could mean some more manual work for Admin if consensus is to go ahead and UF do not allow. We may be able to do it through our Admin codes to add or drop players.

Hawka

I think we should have the draft but only if a list has a player out for the season or retired during the year
and that player can remain on there list with say there last nat or 2nd or 3rd rook, up to the discretion of the coach

i cant imagine every team will want to use this draft so maybe just ladder order as is, i doubt top teams will tank a few weeks out from the draft if they have an LTI

fanTCfool

#11
My understanding the mid-year draft is only for teams who lose a player to retirement/LTI during the season. What if we just gave the affected BXV team the drafted player on a 6-month rental?

For example, if Dustin Martin does a knee and Richmond draft R. Roberts mid-season to replace him, the Hedgies would automatically obtain R. Roberts for the remainder of the season?

Depending on the AFL's plan for these players at the end of the season, they could be automatically placed in our rookie draft pool for the next season at the end of the year, and the BXV team who had them could claim them back with a bidding process if they desire?

A BXV draft involving multiple teams mid-season is far too complicated in my opinion, especially when the number of drafted players cannot be anticipated before hand.

GoLions

Personally i think it might be better to hold off a year, see what happens with the afl side of things (how many get drafted, how many actually play, etc), and then make a decision for 2020 based off of that information.

nas

Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 09:29:33 AM
Personally i think it might be better to hold off a year, see what happens with the afl side of things (how many get drafted, how many actually play, etc), and then make a decision for 2020 based off of that information.

This + we are increasing our playing list by 2 as well.

Nige

Quote from: nas on October 05, 2018, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: GoLions on October 05, 2018, 09:29:33 AM
Personally i think it might be better to hold off a year, see what happens with the afl side of things (how many get drafted, how many actually play, etc), and then make a decision for 2020 based off of that information.

This + we are increasing our playing list by 2 as well.