2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)

[SilverLion]

Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

[AaronKirk]

Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Why?

If his ankle doesn't get better he may never play another game.

Would be surprised if he played in 2019 and GWS have salary cap issues and needed to just get rid of his salary off their books.

[enzedder]

Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

[SilverLion]

Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Why?

If his ankle doesn't get better he may never play another game.

Would be surprised if he played in 2019 and GWS have salary cap issues and needed to just get rid of his salary off their books.

Hawks must think his ankle is ok: https://twitter.com/sam_mcclure/status/1052088415913558018

Can't just 'donate' a player to fix a salary cap problem. He's still got 4-5 years in him easy. Definitely worth minimum 3rd rounder, a mid-late 2nd rounder would probably be about right.

Hawthorn effectively swapped Duryea for Scully lol

[shaker]

Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

They are saying his ankle injury is so bad that's why he is cheap ha ha I bet he lines up R1  ;D

[AaronKirk]

Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Why?

If his ankle doesn't get better he may never play another game.

Would be surprised if he played in 2019 and GWS have salary cap issues and needed to just get rid of his salary off their books.

Hawks must think his ankle is ok: https://twitter.com/sam_mcclure/status/1052088415913558018

Can't just 'donate' a player to fix a salary cap problem. He's still got 4-5 years in him easy. Definitely worth minimum 3rd rounder, a mid-late 2nd rounder would probably be about right.

Hawthorn effectively swapped Duryea for Scully lol

They can if they are happy to do that deal

[Mat0369]

Welcome to the world of salary dumps. Port did it last year with Lobbe. GWS were actively shopping around Scully for this same reason. Any team that was willing to take on that contract was in play. The cap space is more valuable than a player to GWS when they need to retain Coniglio, Whitfield and most importantly Josh Kelly. Soon you're going to have teams following the NBA model where they will receive their trade compensation in picks to take on bad contracts.

[JBs-Hawks]

Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

How dare they, please remind me what Richmond paid for Lynch and Geelong paid for Dahl.

[PowerBug]

Had a bit of a laugh about Port warning GC about taking Lukosius or Rankine or both really what are they supposed to do just pick lesser kids from QLD with there high picks  ::) the best chance of QLD kid is McFadyen around the mid 20's pick and they have 19, 24, 29 to pick up these players so lets face it whoever they get with there high picks might want to go home so they may as well pick the best  ;)

it is clever though, making a statement like that, not only might they get in the head of people at GC, they have got a message to those kids as well....

So it's draft tampering then?

It sounds like a team that has realised they have probably stuffed up and won't be able to move up the draft order, and the player they want (Rankine) is not going to drop to them.

At the time they got 6 I reckon they seriously thought that they'd be able to push Gold Coast out of 3 and so didn't say much at the time. Those talks have obviously gone nowhere, so this is their next attempt.

[RaisyDaisy]

Burton has agreed to be traded to Port in a deal for Wingard

[Pkbaldy]

Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

How dare they, please remind me what Richmond paid for Lynch and Geelong paid for Dahl.

Free Agency works completely different champ.
This is a contracted player.

[SydneyRox]

Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

How dare they, please remind me what Richmond paid for Lynch and Geelong paid for Dahl.

Free Agency works completely different champ.
This is a contracted player.

Exactly, Scully is not a free agent, yet he was able

To nominate two clubs (hawks and bombers) where he would go
Bombers couldn't afford him after Shiel
so it meant GWS either had to hold onto him with his inflated contract and salary cap pressure
or deal with one club who said, yup, well here is a bag of chips.

Plenty of other clubs would have offered more on an open market.

The other side is I heard this morning there is no risk from Hawthorn, because he is contracted and not a free agent.

If he has a career ending injury, the rest of his contract comes off the Hawthorn salary cap.

Conversely, if a free agent has a career ending injury, the team needs to hold his payments in the salary cap until the end of the deal.

[Ricochet]

Burton has agreed to be traded to Port in a deal for Wingard

Looks like this one is going to be the first on to drop

[Ricochet]

According to Kane Cornes

Hawthorn receives Chad Wingard.
Port Adelaide receives Ryan Burton, pick 5, pick 15 and Sam Mayes.
Brisbane receives pick 6, pick 35 and a future 3rd-round pick.


Plus some other minor pick swaps

[Pkbaldy]

Paperwork about to be lodged for the Scully to Hawthorn deal.

The trade I believe is for the 2019 future 4th round pick the Hawks got earlier from the Gold Coast.

AFL has to intervene on this. Is in no way anywhere remotely close to a fair deal.

Yeah. It's ridiculous. Not market rate. Not fair on the other 16 clubs. BS.

How dare they, please remind me what Richmond paid for Lynch and Geelong paid for Dahl.

Free Agency works completely different champ.
This is a contracted player.

Exactly, Scully is not a free agent, yet he was able

To nominate two clubs (hawks and bombers) where he would go
Bombers couldn't afford him after Shiel
so it meant GWS either had to hold onto him with his inflated contract and salary cap pressure
or deal with one club who said, yup, well here is a bag of chips.

Plenty of other clubs would have offered more on an open market.

The other side is I heard this morning there is no risk from Hawthorn, because he is contracted and not a free agent.

If he has a career ending injury, the rest of his contract comes off the Hawthorn salary cap.

Conversely, if a free agent has a career ending injury, the team needs to hold his payments in the salary cap until the end of the deal.

They need to bring in a restriction to contracted players requesting to certain clubs.
Should make it you can request back to a certain state, not a specific club. And the one with the best financial/bidding offer gets the player. But if the player definitely didn't want to go to the club, he stays at the current one.
Tim Kelly is a good example, he's contracted a sooking that he wants to go back to WA, that shouldn't give him the right to specifically pick West Coast, when he said he wants to go back to his home state.

If this shower happened in the NFL, the club would just laugh in their face and send them to Cleveland.