2018 Off Season (list changes and trade rumours)

Started by Ricochet, August 29, 2018, 06:41:42 PM

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enzedder

I’m glad the Saints are throwing the kitchen sink at Shiel. Is he worth that much? Probably not but given the state of our list and lack of stars the dollars aren’t the issue especially if it is front end loaded.
After Hanners made his intent clear  I thought the Shiel interest would die but if the funds are there then great.
Talk is that Shiel is likely to go to the Hawks though Carlton are making a play for him too.



LaHug

Quote from: enzedder on October 03, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
I’m glad the Saints are throwing the kitchen sink at Shiel. Is he worth that much? Probably not but given the state of our list and lack of stars the dollars aren’t the issue especially if it is front end loaded.
After Hanners made his intent clear  I thought the Shiel interest would die but if the funds are there then great.
Talk is that Shiel is likely to go to the Hawks though Carlton are making a play for him too.

Looks like he's more than happy to take less money and go to Hawthorn for a chance at Top 4. Which sucks for St Kilda, obviously. What more can you do than offer way overs?

iZander

Quote from: LaHug on October 03, 2018, 09:42:01 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 03, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
I’m glad the Saints are throwing the kitchen sink at Shiel. Is he worth that much? Probably not but given the state of our list and lack of stars the dollars aren’t the issue especially if it is front end loaded.
After Hanners made his intent clear  I thought the Shiel interest would die but if the funds are there then great.
Talk is that Shiel is likely to go to the Hawks though Carlton are making a play for him too.

Looks like he's more than happy to take less money and go to Hawthorn for a chance at Top 4. Which sucks for St Kilda, obviously. What more can you do than offer way overs?
You can create a good culture and show plays saints are going in the right direction!! Worth way more than overs! The effects of contracts as big of that I think is far more negative than people realise because they don’t associate the effects till a few years later!

Toga

Quote from: LaHug on October 03, 2018, 09:42:01 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 03, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
I’m glad the Saints are throwing the kitchen sink at Shiel. Is he worth that much? Probably not but given the state of our list and lack of stars the dollars aren’t the issue especially if it is front end loaded.
After Hanners made his intent clear  I thought the Shiel interest would die but if the funds are there then great.
Talk is that Shiel is likely to go to the Hawks though Carlton are making a play for him too.

Looks like he's more than happy to take less money and go to Hawthorn for a chance at Top 4. Which sucks for St Kilda, obviously. What more can you do than offer way overs?

Not much as you can see from North Melbourne's pursuit of a big fish last year (Dusty, Kelly). Which has lead them to a position in which they're looking like overpaying a Polec type this year.

Quote from: iZander on October 03, 2018, 09:52:11 AM
You can create a good culture and show plays saints are going in the right direction!! Worth way more than overs! The effects of contracts as big of that I think is far more negative than people realise because they don’t associate the effects till a few years later!

But this is the answer - need to show that even if they're not going to be making top 4/finals next year that they will at least be trending in the right direction.

Football Factory

Quote from: crowls on October 02, 2018, 03:37:56 PM
Poor bloody Suns,  may as well fold them up and split up the players.   Or move to the Sunshine Coast and see how you go, worked for the netballers.

+1.. poor Dew


RaisyDaisy

If Shiel wants to win a flag then he could probably just stay at GWS

Seems odd that he would move from GWS to Hawthorn to try and win a flag - Hawks would be further away than winning one than GWS

Obviously the go home factor is in play though

RaisyDaisy

Ryan Lester has signed on for another year

Tom Langdon finally been offered a contract, but sounds like he will be having a look around first

Gary Rohan tweeted, indicating that he is not wanted at Sydney, hence the request to move to Geelong

RaisyDaisy

Tyson Stengle will be traded to Adelaide

Aaron Hall has confirmed he wants to be traded to Norf

Adelaide has laughed off suggestions Brad Crouch would be traded

shaker

Tim Watson says Darcy Moore is staying at the Pies take it to the bank he reckons maybe they have given Langdon a low ball offer because of this ?

Menzel Washington

What would Adelaide give to Tigers for Stengle? Rookie draft player who has played 2 games in 2 years. Surely wouldn't have to give much??

shaker

Quote from: Menzel Washington on October 03, 2018, 01:23:01 PM
What would Adelaide give to Tigers for Stengle? Rookie draft player who has played 2 games in 2 years. Surely wouldn't have to give much??
I would say there 1st round pick  ;D

elephants

Quote from: shaker on October 03, 2018, 01:22:35 PM
Tim Watson says Darcy Moore is staying at the Pies take it to the bank he reckons maybe they have given Langdon a low ball offer because of this ?

Jesus I would take Langdon over Moore every day of the week. Esp after his grand final performance

elephants

Freo apparently offered Conca a 4 year deal. Who even needs Neale right?!

Nige

Quote from: Menzel Washington on October 03, 2018, 01:23:01 PM
What would Adelaide give to Tigers for Stengle? Rookie draft player who has played 2 games in 2 years. Surely wouldn't have to give much??
Supremely talented and has great goal nous but is a tad slow, his main issue is/was being stuck behind Rioli/Butler/Castagna/Bolton/Higgins/Baker. Absolutely killed the VFL as one of our best regularly just unfortunately had no opportunity in the seniors.

A late draft pick will likely do it, but he's a very good chance to be Eddie's successor at the Crows I'd have thought, certainly has the ability.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Nige on October 03, 2018, 02:02:10 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on October 03, 2018, 01:23:01 PM
What would Adelaide give to Tigers for Stengle? Rookie draft player who has played 2 games in 2 years. Surely wouldn't have to give much??
Supremely talented and has great goal nous but is a tad slow, his main issue is/was being stuck behind Rioli/Butler/Castagna/Bolton/Higgins/Baker. Absolutely killed the VFL as one of our best regularly just unfortunately had no opportunity in the seniors.

A late draft pick will likely do it, but he's a very good chance to be Eddie's successor at the Crows I'd have thought, certainly has the ability.

I think their list manager specifically said he would be a good replacement for Betts in the future