2019 Locks

Started by LaHug, August 28, 2018, 02:36:29 PM

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hawkers65

Quote from: _wato on January 16, 2019, 11:26:26 AM
Chad Wingard.

480k Fwd gonna replace Titch... Locked in 2nd behind Danger

smashbox

Do you think Titch going down means he plays more midfield? Will be interesting to watch during the preseason. If he plays mid he’s in

Ricochet

Don't mind that. He certainly played a lot more midfield in the 2nd half of last year and averaged 103 from round 12 on.


hawkers65

Quote from: smashbox on January 16, 2019, 09:49:42 PM
Do you think Titch going down means he plays more midfield? Will be interesting to watch during the preseason. If he plays mid he’s in

Without a doubt, ideally Clarko would've hoped wingard could play a lot forward but with Titch going down and our already inexperienced midfield he will have to rotate through the guts heavily and with what he proved he can do last year in there his a must.

Also keep an eye out on Dylan Moore, will not be surprised to see him getting early games up forward now we have to use wingard more mid. 123k Fwd rookie.

crowls

Quote from: hawkers65 on January 17, 2019, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: smashbox on January 16, 2019, 09:49:42 PM
Do you think Titch going down means he plays more midfield? Will be interesting to watch during the preseason. If he plays mid he’s in

Without a doubt, ideally Clarko would've hoped wingard could play a lot forward but with Titch going down and our already inexperienced midfield he will have to rotate through the guts heavily and with what he proved he can do last year in there his a must.

Also keep an eye out on Dylan Moore, will not be surprised to see him getting early games up forward now we have to use wingard more mid. 123k Fwd rookie.
what are your thoughts on JOM going super prem 120+?

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: crowls on January 17, 2019, 11:00:20 PM
what are your thoughts on JOM going super prem 120+?

I don't need to be a Hawk supporter to answer this one

Thoughts are, absolutely zero chance he ever goes 120+  :P

hawkers65

Quote from: crowls on January 17, 2019, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on January 17, 2019, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: smashbox on January 16, 2019, 09:49:42 PM
Do you think Titch going down means he plays more midfield? Will be interesting to watch during the preseason. If he plays mid he’s in

Without a doubt, ideally Clarko would've hoped wingard could play a lot forward but with Titch going down and our already inexperienced midfield he will have to rotate through the guts heavily and with what he proved he can do last year in there his a must.

Also keep an eye out on Dylan Moore, will not be surprised to see him getting early games up forward now we have to use wingard more mid. 123k Fwd rookie.
what are your thoughts on JOM going super prem 120+?

I think he'll be better again as a player with another un-interrupted pre season (now 2 in a row) but he'll also be receiving the #1 tag and he hasn't been great at handling that so theres no chance i'll be taking him. I cant remember who came out and said he'd be the best ever but we certainty need that atm. Id expect around a 100 average. Next year with Tom back and i may look at him.

RaisyDaisy

So with the new kick in rule anytime a player runs outside of the square and kicks it that will count as a disposal (no longer need to kick to self) and if they handball it whilst in the square that will now also count as a disposal

The player on the mark now has to be 10m away from the top of the square, so you'd think this is certainly going to encourage players to run out of the square and kick long more often

Laird, Whitfield and Williams are very popular this year, but don't feature in the kick outs much

Lloyd, Hurn and Witherden were the Top 3 for kick outs last year, and Hurn/Withers had high % for the amount of time they kicked to themselves

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-17/champion-data-clarifies-disposal-stats-for-kickins


LaHug

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 18, 2019, 09:10:45 AM
So with the new kick in rule anytime a player runs outside of the square and kicks it that will count as a disposal (no longer need to kick to self) and if they handball it whilst in the square that will now also count as a disposal

The player on the mark now has to be 10m away from the top of the square, so you'd think this is certainly going to encourage players to run out of the square and kick long more often

Laird, Whitfield and Williams are very popular this year, but don't feature in the kick outs much

Lloyd, Hurn and Witherden were the Top 3 for kick outs last year, and Hurn/Withers had high % for the amount of time they kicked to themselves

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-17/champion-data-clarifies-disposal-stats-for-kickins

If we assume that everyone will play on 90% of the time, we should be looking for the players that took the most kick ins without playing on! Those players will now start playing on because it's the logical thing to do and get way more bonus points for it. If Hurn and Witherden were typically playing on already, there's no bonus points to be had.

Ringo

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 18, 2019, 09:10:45 AM
So with the new kick in rule anytime a player runs outside of the square and kicks it that will count as a disposal (no longer need to kick to self) and if they handball it whilst in the square that will now also count as a disposal

The player on the mark now has to be 10m away from the top of the square, so you'd think this is certainly going to encourage players to run out of the square and kick long more often

Laird, Whitfield and Williams are very popular this year, but don't feature in the kick outs much

Lloyd, Hurn and Witherden were the Top 3 for kick outs last year, and Hurn/Withers had high % for the amount of time they kicked to themselves

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-17/champion-data-clarifies-disposal-stats-for-kickins
One of the reasons Withers made it onto my team and will stay there. With Rich moving up field as well he will get more kick ins as well being one of the most accurate kicks in the club in finding targets.

hawkers65

I wouldnt even be confident with Lloyd taking them. He is transitioning more into a winger and usually midfield time is good for picks but id almost prefer lloyd racking up cheap possessions the syd way and taking the kick ins. Also why i cant justify 600k

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: LaHug on January 18, 2019, 09:27:50 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 18, 2019, 09:10:45 AM
So with the new kick in rule anytime a player runs outside of the square and kicks it that will count as a disposal (no longer need to kick to self) and if they handball it whilst in the square that will now also count as a disposal

The player on the mark now has to be 10m away from the top of the square, so you'd think this is certainly going to encourage players to run out of the square and kick long more often

Laird, Whitfield and Williams are very popular this year, but don't feature in the kick outs much

Lloyd, Hurn and Witherden were the Top 3 for kick outs last year, and Hurn/Withers had high % for the amount of time they kicked to themselves

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-17/champion-data-clarifies-disposal-stats-for-kickins

If we assume that everyone will play on 90% of the time, we should be looking for the players that took the most kick ins without playing on! Those players will now start playing on because it's the logical thing to do and get way more bonus points for it. If Hurn and Witherden were typically playing on already, there's no bonus points to be had.

90% could be a stretch but you raise a good point nevertheless

Lloyd had the most kick outs, but only played on 28% of the time so scarily enough there could be upside there

Luke Ryan is the one I'm eyeing. Ryan vs Blakely my decision and I'm seriously looking to pick Ryan. Had him last year as a major pod and he could ramp up the kick outs now too

GoLions

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 18, 2019, 10:18:58 AM
Quote from: LaHug on January 18, 2019, 09:27:50 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 18, 2019, 09:10:45 AM
So with the new kick in rule anytime a player runs outside of the square and kicks it that will count as a disposal (no longer need to kick to self) and if they handball it whilst in the square that will now also count as a disposal

The player on the mark now has to be 10m away from the top of the square, so you'd think this is certainly going to encourage players to run out of the square and kick long more often

Laird, Whitfield and Williams are very popular this year, but don't feature in the kick outs much

Lloyd, Hurn and Witherden were the Top 3 for kick outs last year, and Hurn/Withers had high % for the amount of time they kicked to themselves

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-17/champion-data-clarifies-disposal-stats-for-kickins

If we assume that everyone will play on 90% of the time, we should be looking for the players that took the most kick ins without playing on! Those players will now start playing on because it's the logical thing to do and get way more bonus points for it. If Hurn and Witherden were typically playing on already, there's no bonus points to be had.

90% could be a stretch but you raise a good point nevertheless

Lloyd had the most kick outs, but only played on 28% of the time so scarily enough there could be upside there

Luke Ryan is the one I'm eyeing. Ryan vs Blakely my decision and I'm seriously looking to pick Ryan. Had him last year as a major pod and he could ramp up the kick outs now too
You just want players who take the most kickouts. Basically nobody plays on even 50% of the time (and if so, barely gets that), so even with Hurn and WitherGOAT having higher % numbers, they still have a showerload of kickouts where they're not playing on to give them a lot of room for improvement.

Ryan is an interesting option though, took a lot of kickouts and basically never played on. Wish I could start just Danger up forward and then 5 defence premos.

shaker

Ryan looks the player to benefit the most but can't see it being huge bonus he kicked in 107 times from 20 games an avg. of about 5 a game and I'm sure some of his kick ins this year will be from inside the square as well plus there is the same amount of points to carve up so every player will have a small % loss because of rule change , if you could pick 4 players with Ryan's stats it would be an advantage as long as they are good scorers to start with.

quinny88

I  Wouldn't be worrying about play on %. The man on the mark is going to be an extra 10 metres back or something so 9/10 kick ins the player is going to move past the square no matter who it is. The guys that take the most kick ins reguardless of weather they usually play on or not will all benefit from it. The backline could become as good as the midfield in terms of scoring if it goes how I think it will