2019 Locks

Started by LaHug, August 28, 2018, 02:36:29 PM

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SilverLion

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 10, 2018, 05:38:29 PM
What are people thinking in regards to some of the ex prem guys who come in cheap this year due to injury/poor form?

Brodie Smith at 332k
Hanners at 326k
Greene at 355k

Mummy at 320k is value, but missing the first 2 games is a huge turn off. You'd probably need to start Hoff in your forward line to cover the first 2 weeks so that isn't attractive, but if someone like Zac Clarke or Darcy Fort line up R1 would you start them at R3 with Mummy on the bench for 2 weeks?

I know Brad Crouch at 418k will also interest many, but probably a pass for me at this stage. Libba I can imagine will be somewhere in the 300k range so he has to be at least considered

Birchall should be peanuts. I could easily see Birchall at D5 and Sam Collins at D6 plus two rookies on the bench
Anthony Miles?

shaker

Quote from: SilverLion on December 10, 2018, 06:24:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 10, 2018, 05:38:29 PM
What are people thinking in regards to some of the ex prem guys who come in cheap this year due to injury/poor form?

Brodie Smith at 332k
Hanners at 326k
Greene at 355k

Mummy at 320k is value, but missing the first 2 games is a huge turn off. You'd probably need to start Hoff in your forward line to cover the first 2 weeks so that isn't attractive, but if someone like Zac Clarke or Darcy Fort line up R1 would you start them at R3 with Mummy on the bench for 2 weeks?

I know Brad Crouch at 418k will also interest many, but probably a pass for me at this stage. Libba I can imagine will be somewhere in the 300k range so he has to be at least considered

Birchall should be peanuts. I could easily see Birchall at D5 and Sam Collins at D6 plus two rookies on the bench
Anthony Miles?
Yep should be cheap only 1 game this year don't know what his price is ? but he will be a much better pick than an expensive 1st year rookie Ellis also might be worth a punt.

Gigantor

Quote from: shaker on December 10, 2018, 06:34:06 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on December 10, 2018, 06:24:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 10, 2018, 05:38:29 PM
What are people thinking in regards to some of the ex prem guys who come in cheap this year due to injury/poor form?

Brodie Smith at 332k
Hanners at 326k
Greene at 355k

Mummy at 320k is value, but missing the first 2 games is a huge turn off. You'd probably need to start Hoff in your forward line to cover the first 2 weeks so that isn't attractive, but if someone like Zac Clarke or Darcy Fort line up R1 would you start them at R3 with Mummy on the bench for 2 weeks?

I reckon Miles won't be that cheap, 360-400k imo

I know Brad Crouch at 418k will also interest many, but probably a pass for me at this stage. Libba I can imagine will be somewhere in the 300k range so he has to be at least considered

Birchall should be peanuts. I could easily see Birchall at D5 and Sam Collins at D6 plus two rookies on the bench
Anthony Miles?
Yep should be cheap only 1 game this year don't know what his price is ? but he will be a much better pick than an expensive 1st year rookie Ellis also might be worth a punt.

crowls

Quote from: quinny88 on December 04, 2018, 12:47:31 AM
Quote from: shaker on December 03, 2018, 07:23:38 PM
Good to see a lot more forward DPP's than last year and there is always a glut of mids so can expect a lot less clone teams this time , locks Danger , Fyfe , Mitchell , Grundy , Lloyd probably Heeney and Oliver and Cripps but it's still 2018 so nothing in concrete yet  ;)

I'm off Fyfe. Never plays a full season. So sick of trading him in and out every year.
and so say all of us

bowyanger

Im looking at players that have had a healthy off season

Oliver is a no for me - still not 100% full fitness, for a premium I want someone who has been able to do everything and more. Sure he will probably still own but Id rather reduce my risks where possible when SC is a game built predominately around luck and my rd 1 lockout team

Premium locks are easy - you cant go wrong...or they at least maintain a decent level to jump to another performer such as Dusty, Grundy, Titch, Laird, Dangerpants, Gawn, Heeney, Cripps., Bont, Beams, Sidebum...every one should be looking at these goons that are at their peak with no off season niggles.,..players that would have trained hard in October  They are the premium locks.
Sure there is an occasional unexpected wipeout like Zerrett and Dusty last year but no one can foresee that and it cant be controlled....no one would have ever picked dusty to go under 500K value last year

We need to be talking about the mid priced and rookie locks

Curnow, Parish, Witherden, McGrath, Berry, McLuggage, Pickett, Logue, Scrimshaw, DFogarty, Collins, Burgess, Corbett, McAdam, Mitch Lewis....theres so many.....these sort of players locked in from rd 1 are the ones that are going to win you supercoach. Players that are going to give us either a large increase of PPG for minimal $ spent or players that go from 80ppg into 95+ pearls of wisdom flukeness

Its hard to have this discussion until prices nd positions are confirmed

Mat0369

Quote from: AaronKirk on December 10, 2018, 04:05:09 PM
Apparently Docherty today has had a serious knee injury at Carlton training. Could be another ACL according to Sam Landsberger from the HS on Twitter.

I'm gutted, he is so important to us and the way we structure up on the field. He is a coach out there for a young team. He is irreplaceable, this really hurts a young team. We're really freaking lucky we grabbed Newman or we would be even more cooked than we are.

Meanwhile, in Adelaide, the recruiting team would be looking at what player they are taking next year with pick 2 in the draft.

Mat0369

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 10, 2018, 03:55:28 PM

SAM NAISMITH
(Syd) $251,300 Ruck

ZAC CLARKE
(Ess) $142,600 Ruck

BRODIE SMITH
(Adel) $332,500, defender

JACK VINEY
(Melb) $449,500, midfielder

WILL SETTERFIELD
(Carl) $144,900, mid/fwd

TOM WILLIAMSON
(Carl) $189,500, defender

SAM COLLINS
(GC) $188,900, defender



The guys above will all come into consideration. With the Doc news, if Willow is healthy he is a lock. The only downside is that his worst games were at Etihad/Marvel. I think the ground size doesn't suit his style.


Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 10, 2018, 05:38:29 PM
What are people thinking in regards to some of the ex prem guys who come in cheap this year due to injury/poor form?

Brodie Smith at 332k
Hanners at 326k
Greene at 355k

Mummy at 320k is value, but missing the first 2 games is a huge turn off. You'd probably need to start Hoff in your forward line to cover the first 2 weeks so that isn't attractive, but if someone like Zac Clarke or Darcy Fort line up R1 would you start them at R3 with Mummy on the bench for 2 weeks?

I know Brad Crouch at 418k will also interest many, but probably a pass for me at this stage. Libba I can imagine will be somewhere in the 300k range so he has to be at least considered

Birchall should be peanuts. I could easily see Birchall at D5 and Sam Collins at D6 plus two rookies on the bench

Mummy is too expensive anyway. If he was mid 200's I'd do it, but not at 320k. Not worth the risk for a guy that is basically coming out of retirement to be a depth option with a cooked foot.

I'd take Viney over Crouch/Libba. Right age bracket for a break out and in a team that looks to be top 4. I think he can average 105 so it's not a bad option as a pricey stepping stone M8 option.

Smith came out and destroyed the last round right? He will probably sit on a wing all year with the way the new rules are coming into play. Could be good for a 90, not sure how I feel once I look at all the top end options.

Forget Hanners, Green and Birchall.

Birchall is done and dusted. He can't stay healthy and he keeps injuring his knee. He is probably not that far off calling it a career.

Greene will punish anyone that doesn't start with him the first month before either getting suspended or injured.

I have some interesting stats on Hanners I compiled a few years back. I was looking at his breakout season and how he performed in wins vs losses. I figured the Swans were in for a good year and the differential was huge. I might go back and have a look at the last 3 or 4 seasons to see if it continues. If the Saints are going to be a trash team Hanners will score like trash.

Ricochet

Fuuuuck, just saw the Docherty news. Poor bloke, that sucks

RaisyDaisy

Most Expensive Defenders
Jake Lloyd   $608,200
Rory Laird   $587,600
James Sicily $570,400
Kade Simpson $570,300
Lachie Whitfield $542,100

Most Expensive Midfielders
Tom Mitchell $700,800
Jack Macrae $689,700
Patrick Cripps $648,200
Clayton Oliver $622,700
Nat Fyfe $618.100

Most Expensive Rucks
Brodie Grundy $708,200
Max Gawn $692,100
Stefan Martin $573,700
Ben McEvoy $553,100
Todd Goldstein $548,000

Most Expensive Forwards
Patrick Dangerfield $660,500
Tom Hawkins $552,900
Justin Westhoff $549,400
Lance Franklin $543,500
Sam Menegola $543,100

SilverLion

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 11, 2018, 11:05:28 AM
Most Expensive Defenders
Jake Lloyd   $608,200
Rory Laird   $587,600
James Sicily $570,400
Kade Simpson $570,300
Lachie Whitfield $542,100

Most Expensive Midfielders
Tom Mitchell $700,800
Jack Macrae $689,700
Patrick Cripps $648,200
Clayton Oliver $622,700
Nat Fyfe $618.100

Most Expensive Rucks
Brodie Grundy $708,200
Max Gawn $692,100
Stefan Martin $573,700
Ben McEvoy $553,100
Todd Goldstein $548,000

Most Expensive Forwards
Patrick Dangerfield $660,500
Tom Hawkins $552,900
Justin Westhoff $549,400
Lance Franklin $543,500
Sam Menegola $543,100
Whitfield cheapest player you listed there. Steal.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: SilverLion on December 11, 2018, 11:33:11 AM
Whitfield cheapest player you listed there. Steal.

Cheapest player, because he had the lowest average of them all

LaHug

I reckon Sicily is the pick. He takes plenty of kick ins but didn't play on much from memory. He'll play on for sure.

iZander

Quote from: LaHug on December 11, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
I reckon Sicily is the pick. He takes plenty of kick ins but didn't play on much from memory. He'll play on for sure.
Hes the only player that we can be 100% sure on him missing atleast 5 games.....and thats if he doesnt get injured ;)

SilverLion

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 11, 2018, 11:38:21 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on December 11, 2018, 11:33:11 AM
Whitfield cheapest player you listed there. Steal.

Cheapest player, because he had the lowest average of them all
Well aware of that. But seemed to be really consistent this year. If he shifts back into the mids will score well, and he's proven he can score well at HB also.

ubeaut

Quote from: SilverLion on December 11, 2018, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 11, 2018, 11:38:21 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on December 11, 2018, 11:33:11 AM
Whitfield cheapest player you listed there. Steal.

Cheapest player, because he had the lowest average of them all
Well aware of that. But seemed to be really consistent this year. If he shifts back into the mids will score well, and he's proven he can score well at HB also.
Whitfield is the biggest lock down back for me now Doc is out.
Williams back,Sheil gone he'll line up on the wing most games, and I feel wingers could be a beneficiary of the new 6/6/6 rule.