ADT: Official Trade Thread 2018/2019

Started by Nige, August 11, 2018, 10:27:47 AM

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BChester_23


kilbluff1985

Bermuda give pick 9
Dallas give Travis Boak

BChester_23

Confirm.

Rebuilding and picks are needed.

kilbluff1985

Bermuda give Lewis Taylor and pick 45
Calgary give Zach Tuohy

needed another defender

R.Griffen

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2018, 01:30:20 AM
Bermuda give Lewis Taylor and pick 45
Calgary give Zach Tuohy

needed another defender
My forwards are shower so Taylor probs starts, Nat pick just to try and hit one out of the blue. Tuohy getting on but still a decent scorer and can help Bermuda win the flag

R.Griffen

Calgary Give: Nat Pick 4 + Darcy Moore
Washington Give: Zac Bailey + Nat Pick 19 + Nat Pick 31

Pick 4 is worth 500 more points then 19 and 31. Making up for the difference between Bailey and Moore

Pop to confirm

popedelio

Quote from: R.Griffen on September 05, 2018, 12:48:03 PM
Calgary Give: Nat Pick 4 + Darcy Moore
Washington Give: Zac Bailey + Nat Pick 19 + Nat Pick 31

Pick 4 is worth 500 more points then 19 and 31. Making up for the difference between Bailey and Moore

Pop to confirm

Confirm. RGriff is keen on Bailey and happy to part with him to get a higher pick in the draft. If Moore gets his body right I believe he can be a very good defender or forward as well.

Nige

Bermuda give pick 21, Will Walker and Zac Giles-Langdon
Dallas give Bryce Gibbs

Bermuda give pick 9
Dallas give Travis Boak

Both trades have been rejected.

The coaches involved have been PM'd with an explanation as to why prior to this ruling, but for fairness and transparency, we'll post why so everyone can understand our reasons for doing so.

Also should be noted that we did get an official complaint via PM from a coach who shall remain unnamed for confidentiality reasons. It serves as a timely reminder that concerned coaches can voice an official complaint about a trade via PM at any time, but must have a genuine reason alongside the challenge.

Anyway, here's the reasoning:

QuoteIt's our view that while we understand the direction both teams desire to go in, and we both fully understand and respect that coaches are allowed to take their teams in whatever direction they deem necessary and have the freedom to trade whoever they like, but we're a little concerned that both trades on their own, and as a whole, are a detrimental to both teams short and long term.

In the regards to this trade:

Bermuda give pick 21, Will Walker and Zac Giles-Langdon
Dallas give Bryce Gibbs

We understand Gibbs to be a 30yr old (as of March next year) 100 avg mid which is fine, but the concern here is mainly the compensation. While N21 is handy, KB is handing over two first year players. The issue with this is that ZGL is a mature age small fwd coming off only a 50 avg. Walker only played 4 games late in the season and averaged the same. Obviously both are presumably intended to be long term investments, but Walker's JS isn't guaranteed and we believe there isn't a lot of scope for ZGL to improve much upon his rookie year average. In addition to this, Gibbs is also one of Dallas' best players, often being named as C or VC in 2018, so to lose a captain option (after already losing Viney - also a potential suitable captain option when fit) for a pick (which at this stage is speculative/a gamble), a rookie who doesn't have guaranteed JS and mature age small fwd is probably not appropriate. It also concerns us that Bermuda has a distinct lack of promising/high level talent which could be damaging.

Our suggestions here would be for Bermuda to better compensate Dallas for the loss of Gibbs by giving a player with decent JS and who should be a reliable starter.

In regards to the other trade:

Bermuda give pick 9
Dallas give Travis Boak

This trade concerns us because Pick 9 is a high price to pay for a 30 year old with one year left on his contract, coming off his worst return (average wise) in 6 years. While we understand Dallas is looking long term and trying to invest in draft picks, we feel it would be more appropriate to lower the value of the pick given if Boak remains the player desired, or alternatively Dallas could give a slightly better player for the pick given it's first round pick being received.

Overall, Bermuda mortgaging their future for short term gain is a little concerning, and the competitiveness of Dallas as a result of losing Gibbs, Boak (and Viney from the other trade with El Paso) has worried us enough that we're sorry to say that we're left with no other choice than to reject both trades.




Other trades to be ruled on shortly, the movements and official trades posts to be updated in due course, but coaches are reminded to keep in mind the restriction of 20 movements, which does include picks.

Nige

Guadalajara give: Aaron Young
Arizona give: Dylan Roberton

Roberton is surplus to needs at Arizona due to some positional changes. He's also a bit of a risk given his 2018 health concerns, but it's a risk I'm willing to take for a potential starting defender if he's in the clear health-wise. Young is best 22 and handy depth, but down the pecking order in my fwd line so I can move him on for list balance.

nas to confirm.

nas

Quote from: Nige on September 05, 2018, 06:01:03 PM
Guadalajara give: Aaron Young
Arizona give: Dylan Roberton

Roberton is surplus to needs at Arizona due to some positional changes. He's also a bit of a risk given his 2018 health concerns, but it's a risk I'm willing to take for a potential starting defender if he's in the clear health-wise. Young is best 22 and handy depth, but down the pecking order in my fwd line so I can move him on for list balance.

nas to confirm.

Pretty much summed up & Young does provide Fwd depth.

Confirm

Nige

Quote from: nas on September 05, 2018, 06:03:55 PM
Quote from: Nige on September 05, 2018, 06:01:03 PM
Guadalajara give: Aaron Young + N29
Arizona give: Dylan Roberton

Roberton is surplus to needs at Arizona due to some positional changes. He's also a bit of a risk given his 2018 health concerns, but it's a risk I'm willing to take for a potential starting defender if he's in the clear health-wise. Young is best 22 and handy depth, but down the pecking order in my fwd line so I can move him on for list balance.

nas to confirm.

Pretty much summed up & Young does provide Fwd depth.

Confirm
Just added in a pick to balance it out slightly, nas is fine with this also.

BChester_23

Dallas trades Constable and NAT 25

El Paso trades Joyce

Barra13

Confirm.

Wanted Charlie Constable last year but missed out. Joyce will be a solid defender but he isn't needed at this point in time.

fanTCfool


Barra13

El Paso give: Jake Stringer and Mitch Hannan

Arizona give: Dan Hannebery and Bailey Dale

On the hunt for mids and have an abundance of forwards.