WXV Rules Discussion 2018

Started by Purple 77, August 04, 2018, 12:09:26 PM

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Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 08, 2018, 09:35:47 PM
You almost had OOP because your depth was shower

You can't go claiming players that changed position during the year

And you can attack too. You're just flowered when your ruck goes down, which is the issue I've always had

Then get all the ryder back ups then. Only issur when thr back ups arent rucks in CD


RaisyDaisy

Just continuing on with what I mentioned

We've had this discussion in previous years, but I genuinely think this idea has merit

This year we've had 130 defenders play 10+ games and 154 forwards play 10+ games

Only 22 rucks have played 10+ games

The math says that works out to be 7.2 defenders per team, 8.5 forwards per team and only 1.2 rucks per team

We need to name 4 defenders and 4 forwards, when on average teams should have 7+ to choose from most weeks, but when they don't, we get a pass with the ability to flood or attack

On the other hand, with only 1 ruck per team on average, we get penalised to the extent of copping a 50% hit, which in most cases will result in a loss

There's two ways I would like to recommend

1. We scrap Flood/Attack
2. Instead of height/less% or any other suggestion we've previously had, we implement a third tactic to utilise alongside Flood and Attack. Perhaps we can call it "Pace" or "Speed" or anything else, but essentially we have the ability to name 5 mids and no ruck

Right now Flood/Attack can be used at any time - you don't need literally only have 3 players available, you can use freely. The same would also be available for this new option too

We currently have a cap of 5 times a year for Flood/Attack being used. We would need to keep a cap, but whether we stick at 5 or increase/reduce can be up for discussion

Once you've used up your 5 or however many for the year, then OOP at 50% applies as per normal


JBs-Hawks

Just get a complete ruck set for a team.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 08, 2018, 11:25:46 PM
Just get a complete ruck set for a team.

Yeah and how does that work out when CD doesn't give multiple rucks per team?

Dawson Simpson was the only GWS ruck this year, whilst Lobb was FWD only

We have Ryder - didn't see Frampton or Hayes get a game this year




RaisyDaisy

The fact of the matter is that it's a situation that impacts more teams than others, and therefor is not even and fair

If you can't field 4 def/fwd when there are so many more available then why should you get a free pass by using flood/attack, but when you only have 1 ruck, and no back up - nor does the team even have a listed back up ruck who plays - you get penalised?

It's completely flawed and needs to be fixed once and for all

Levi434

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 08, 2018, 11:34:04 PM
The fact of the matter is that it's a situation that impacts more teams than others, and therefor is not even and fair

If you can't field 4 def/fwd when there are so many more available then why should you get a free pass by using flood/attack, but when you only have 1 ruck, and no back up - nor does the team even have a listed back up ruck who plays - you get penalised?

It's completely flawed and needs to be fixed once and for all

How do I heart react on FF?

meow meow

Tom Boyd on the table for a forward significantly better than my rock in the ruck.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: meow meow on August 08, 2018, 11:43:10 PM
Tom Boyd on the table for a forward significantly better than my rock in the ruck.

That's an odd rule suggestion

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 08, 2018, 11:27:16 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 08, 2018, 11:25:46 PM
Just get a complete ruck set for a team.

Yeah and how does that work out when CD doesn't give multiple rucks per team?

Dawson Simpson was the only GWS ruck this year, whilst Lobb was FWD only

We have Ryder - didn't see Frampton or Hayes get a game this year

Maybe you will have better luck if you write a letter to Hinkley asking him not to waste Big Charlie in the ruck.

meow meow

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 09, 2018, 12:04:22 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 08, 2018, 11:27:16 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 08, 2018, 11:25:46 PM
Just get a complete ruck set for a team.

Yeah and how does that work out when CD doesn't give multiple rucks per team?

Dawson Simpson was the only GWS ruck this year, whilst Lobb was FWD only

We have Ryder - didn't see Frampton or Hayes get a game this year

Maybe you will have better luck if you write a letter to Hinkley asking him not to waste Big Charlie in the ruck.
Give me medium Charlie.

Holz

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 08, 2018, 11:25:46 PM
Just get a complete ruck set for a team.

Pretty good advice.

You might want to get Pittonent of whoever has him.

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: Holz on August 09, 2018, 12:23:38 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 08, 2018, 11:25:46 PM
Just get a complete ruck set for a team.

Pretty good advice.

You might want to get Pittonent of whoever has him.

I don't need no pie!

Adamant

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 09, 2018, 01:02:41 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 09, 2018, 12:23:38 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 08, 2018, 11:25:46 PM
Just get a complete ruck set for a team.

Pretty good advice.

You might want to get Pittonent of whoever has him.

I don't need no pie!

Marc Piettonet

Holz

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 09, 2018, 01:02:41 AM
Quote from: Holz on August 09, 2018, 12:23:38 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 08, 2018, 11:25:46 PM
Just get a complete ruck set for a team.

Pretty good advice.

You might want to get Pittonent of whoever has him.

I don't need no pie!

Good he isn't for sale for anything that would pass the trade panel.

Going alright in the VFL though

60 Hit outs, 14 disposals, 2 marks (1 contested) 4 tackles and a goal.
53 Hit outs, 19 disposals, 7 mars (4 contested) 7 tackles.

wouldn't it be grand to see his actually play this week, he is an outside chance.


Bright Future at Dublin in the Ruck Division



GoLions

I like how you used that particular pic Holz. Pitto got spanked so bad that game it got posted on PH.