WXV Rules Discussion 2018

[meow meow]

Rule Proposal:

It's pretty clear that most coaches in here are too lazy to do stuff when required of them. The most telling example being the superlatives. :P

In all seriousness though, I propose a subcommittee of 4 elected representatives in which they will discuss all the rule proposals PRIOR to them being sent to a vote. We'll call this the "Rules Committee."

The 4 members will be:
Chair: Levi434
Vice-Chair: Purple 77
Elected Member:
Elected Member:

I believe that Purp definitely should be on the committee but shouldn't have to chair it. That leaves the only other person capable (Levi) to run the show. The other 2 spots will be open to any coach who would like to nominate. Also this will only apply to rule proposals NOT trades!

Surely Holz and I go h2h and JB chimes in with his 2 cents when he feels like calling Holz on his BS

[Nige]

I swear Purps already proposed that idea himself before at some stage.

[GoLions]

i nek nominate Boomz to be on the committee

[meow meow]

I propose that the worst team of the year before gets to field 16 players each round the following year.

[Purple 77]

Apologies for the large chunk of rules!

Essentially, it's because of work, and consequently not having the stamina anymore to send them in bite sized PMs.

[Purple 77]

I swear Purps already proposed that idea himself before at some stage.

I personally didn't, but the idea was proposed last year and maybe the year before.

And like I said then, you'd all hate it if you gave up your only shred of democracy to me and let me decide on rules and trades :-X

[Holz]

Democracy on voting for rules but then we listen to the minority on trades. Still makes no sense.

At the moment 3 people can think team A wins, 3 people can think team B wins and then 12 think its a fair trade and it goes down. Thats not democracy at all.

[Levi434]

Just to clarify, the committee would NOT be deciding which rules pass or fail. Rather just to weed out the ones that are irrelevant and to simplify the wording etc prior to them being sent to everyone.

[iZander]

I swear Purps already proposed that idea himself before at some stage.

I personally didn't, but the idea was proposed last year and maybe the year before.

And like I said then, you'd all hate it if you gave up your only shred of democracy to me and let me decide on rules and trades :-X

Id honestly rather you sift out most of the suggestions, like the one above but dont wanna put all that pressure on you :P Could also use the thread as a gage, if a suggestion got a positive response in there then put it up to vote if it didn't then let you decide whether it goes to vote or not :P

Saves us going through 24 rules with only 3-5 actual proper ones :P

[Purple 77]

I swear Purps already proposed that idea himself before at some stage.

I personally didn't, but the idea was proposed last year and maybe the year before.

And like I said then, you'd all hate it if you gave up your only shred of democracy to me and let me decide on rules and trades :-X

Id honestly rather you sift out most of the suggestions, like the one above but dont wanna put all that pressure on you :P Could also use the thread as a gage, if a suggestion got a positive response in there then put it up to vote if it didn't then let you decide whether it goes to vote or not :P

Saves us going through 24 rules with only 3-5 actual proper ones :P

However true, I've already had a couple of responses complaining that I ignored their suggestion :P understand where you're coming from, but at the end of the day it probably takes 5 mins to vote for them all

[iZander]

I swear Purps already proposed that idea himself before at some stage.

I personally didn't, but the idea was proposed last year and maybe the year before.

And like I said then, you'd all hate it if you gave up your only shred of democracy to me and let me decide on rules and trades :-X

Id honestly rather you sift out most of the suggestions, like the one above but dont wanna put all that pressure on you :P Could also use the thread as a gage, if a suggestion got a positive response in there then put it up to vote if it didn't then let you decide whether it goes to vote or not :P

Saves us going through 24 rules with only 3-5 actual proper ones :P

However true, I've already had a couple of responses complaining that I ignored their suggestion :P understand where you're coming from, but at the end of the day it probably takes 5 mins to vote for them all

yeah can understand that i guess :P

[Purple 77]

10 coaches have responded :)

Two outcomes have revealed themselves:



11. Should we be able to rest more than 1 player per week? (with cap to be determined in the next vote if successful)
A. Yes
B. No

All 10 coaches voted B. No

So 1 player per week it remains



14. In addition to Floods/Attacks, should we have the option to not play a ruck? (with the decision to decide if extra forward, mid, defender or utility spot to be done later if successful)
A. Yes
B. No

All 10 coaches voted B. No

So the ruck spot will continue to be enforced every week.

[Purple 77]

12/16 teams have voted (Toronto & Rio no longer count).

Teams still to vote:
London Royals
Mexico City Suns
Pacific Islanders
Seoul Magpies



Rules officially decided:

4. All Partial Lockouts should be Rolling Lockouts, where loopholing is permitted (but non-partial/rolling lockouts should remain as full-lockouts)
A. Yes - reintroduces the ability to loophole which is sometimes needed to field your best XV, whilst not disadvantaging those teams without Thursday/Friday night players
B. No - teams should be locked in once all available players are known, like this year.

A: 3 votes
B: 9 votes



5. Rolling Lockouts every week with full loopholing abilities
A. Yes - 1 vote
B. No - 11 votes



9. Should you be able to stack your Floods/Attacks in one round? For example, you can elect to use two of your floods to play 6 defenders and two forwards.
A. Yes - 2 votes
B. No - 10 votes



12. Remove Rookie List/Draft (i.e. move from split of 40 seniors / 4-5 rookies to 44-45 seniors, where the Pre-Season Draft which will be extended to finish off your lists)
A. Yes - if you don't have to upgrade rookies anymore, there shouldn't be a rookie list.
B. No - it’s a unique element of Worlds.

A: 10 votes
B: 2 votes

Bye bye rookie lists! Hello renewed relevance to the PSD!



15. Rather than a flat 50% penalty for OOP rucks, should it be less if you play a tall player? (percentages to be voted upon if vote is successful)
A. Yes - 2 votes
B. No - 10 votes



19. Rather than being penalised 50% for having an OOP ruck, should the opposing ruck be granted a 50% bonus instead?
A. Yes - 3 votes
B. No - 9 votes



20. Should we scrap the ability to name Co-Captains, and adopt the following system instead?: Each week your VC is someone who plays before your C and if you want to bank the VC score you simply post in the thread advising Purps of so, however you must post advising so before your C plays otherwise you miss banking it and your C remains as captain
A. Yes - 3 votes
B. No - 9 votes



21. Should the WXV Community decide upon the positions of players rather than SC?
A. Yes - 1 votes
B. No - 11 votes



22. Should the Salaries of Top 20 draft picks be worth more, where Pick 1 is worth 200k, Pick 2 is worth 195k, Pick 3 is 190k…. Pick 19 is 110k, and Pick 20 is 105k?
A. Yes - 3 votes
B. No - 9 votes

[meow meow]

Damn. I really wanted two bites at the captaincy score. Looks like I'll just have to back in Abbott permacaptain.

[GoLions]

Booo