NBA Season 2018/19

RaisyDaisy · July 06, 2019, 05:46:42 PM

Woj: Free agent guard Danny Green will sign a two-year, $30M deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, league source tells ESPN.

Mat0369 · July 06, 2019, 05:50:21 PM

Lakers will also sign Boogie and be a middle of the road playoff team at best. Boogie/AD doesn't work, Green is old and a bench piece for a contender next year. They gave him 15 mill.

Mat0369 · July 07, 2019, 02:16:21 PM

And the Lakers sign Boogie and Rondo. It's the Pelicans with LeBron instead of Jrue

RaisyDaisy · July 07, 2019, 03:06:50 PM

Quote from: Mat0369 on July 07, 2019, 02:16:21 PM
And the Lakers sign Boogie and Rondo. It's the Pelicans with LeBron instead of Jrue

I'm just glad to see Caruso got re-signed!

Sounding like OKC and Westbrook are in talks now too - with George now out they're no chance to win the West, and with the haul of youth and picks they've now got it does make sense to move Rus on and free up all that cap space too

Will be very interested to see how that plays out, if it does at al

RaisyDaisy · July 08, 2019, 10:59:53 AM

Haha!

https://youtu.be/NYOA5XEkveA

Holz · July 10, 2019, 10:52:52 AM

Quote from: Mat0369 on July 06, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
Lakers will also sign Boogie and be a middle of the road playoff team at best. Boogie/AD doesn't work, Green is old and a bench piece for a contender next year. They gave him 15 mill.

Boogie and AD did work before boogie got injured.

Green isnt that old he is 1 year older then Curry. He ideally would be coming off the bench but a 3 and D player is more then handy.

i think last year they where a middle of the road playoff team if they stayed healthy.

its basically Lonzo Ingram Zubac to Davis Green Boogie Bradley Cook Dudley

thats a huge upgrade.

jvalles69 · July 10, 2019, 11:02:51 AM

Quote from: Holz on July 10, 2019, 10:52:52 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 06, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
Lakers will also sign Boogie and be a middle of the road playoff team at best. Boogie/AD doesn't work, Green is old and a bench piece for a contender next year. They gave him 15 mill.

Boogie and AD did work before boogie got injured.

Green isnt that old he is 1 year older then Curry. He ideally would be coming off the bench but a 3 and D player is more then handy.

i think last year they where a middle of the road playoff team if they stayed healthy.

its basically Lonzo Ingram Zubac to Davis Green Boogie Bradley Cook Dudley

thats a huge upgrade.

I agree, I think this puts Lakers in the front of the pack now. Clippers have the best 2 way wing duo now since MJ and Pippen, but it's all going to come down to who can stay healthy between these 2 days. AD, Boogie, PG and Kawhi have all missed huge chunks of seasons due to injuries, last season was the first season we saw Lebron start breaking down. It's going to take a whole lot of luck at playoff time.

Mat0369 · July 10, 2019, 01:35:27 PM

Boogie and AD failed miserably. They weren't a playoff team with those two, they went on a run when Boogie got injured and knocked off the Blazers off the back of the AD/Jrue combo.

The Lakers roster is constructed poorly and they aren't better than the Clippers. The Nuggets, Rockets, Blazers and even Warriors when Klay gets back are arguably all better.

jvalles69 · July 10, 2019, 01:45:05 PM

Quote from: Mat0369 on July 10, 2019, 01:35:27 PM
Boogie and AD failed miserably. They weren't a playoff team with those two, they went on a run when Boogie got injured and knocked off the Blazers off the back of the AD/Jrue combo.

The Lakers roster is constructed poorly and they aren't better than the Clippers. The Nuggets, Rockets, Blazers and even Warriors when Klay gets back are arguably all better.

You may be right, but all teams still need a guy who can takeover a game AND hit a game winning shot come finals, there aren't many of them around. The regular season is 1 thing, but the finals are next level.

Top level: Lebron, Kawhi, Curry, KD, Kyrie
Next level: Lillard, PG13, Harden, Klay

76ers don't have one, Bucks don't have one, Nuggets don't have one. Someone asked me who wins the East this past season before the play offs began and I said only Toronto or Boston because only Kawhi or Kyrie can takeover in the finals AND hit a game winner.

LaHug · July 10, 2019, 03:45:41 PM

So, with a bit of time since it happened, does anyone else think Kawhi and PG's moves are actually a bit dirty? Kawhi clearly never planned on signing with the Lakers and just kept them hanging to hurt FA signings. Kawhi actively getting a contracted player, one who still had three years remaining on his contract, to force his way out. PG saying he had unfinished business with the Thunder, signs a 4 year contract, gets another first round exit, and forces his way out.

I'm obviously not the same as the LA-based Lakers fans in that I don't actively hate the Clippers. However, after this offseason, I'll be barracking against them and hard. Both players seem snakey to me.

Mat0369 · July 10, 2019, 04:04:20 PM

Quote from: jvalles69 on July 10, 2019, 01:45:05 PM
You may be right, but all teams still need a guy who can takeover a game AND hit a game winning shot come finals, there aren't many of them around. The regular season is 1 thing, but the finals are next level.

Top level: Lebron, Kawhi, Curry, KD, Kyrie
Next level: Lillard, PG13, Harden, Klay

76ers don't have one, Bucks don't have one, Nuggets don't have one. Someone asked me who wins the East this past season before the play offs began and I said only Toronto or Boston because only Kawhi or Kyrie can takeover in the finals AND hit a game winner.

This is one of the reasons I didn't like letting Butler go. He was the closer on the 6'ers. It is something they lacked and one of the main reasons they lost to Boston the year before. They didn't have anyone to take that last second shot. Right now they expect Harris to step up into that role and between him and Embiid they are the two they will rely on to close out games. Bucks will back in Giannis and it's between those two teams in the east right now.

When you look at someone like KD, he lost a finals series and they had that playoff loss to the Warriors before he jumped ship. It takes years for some guys to get that edge and some never do. The Clippers arguably have three in George, Leonard and Lou Williams. Right now if you're looking at guys that take the last shot for the teams I mentioned, here they are

Warriors - Curry/Klay
Blazers - Dame
Rockets - Harden
Clippers - Leonard, Geroge, Williams
Nuggets - Murray/Jokic

One team I actually forgot about was the Jazz. They're a beast team defensively, added Conley and Bogdonovic and have Donovan Mitchell to close out games for them.

jvalles69 · July 10, 2019, 04:13:02 PM

Yep, I forgot Utah too, adding Conley was huge, they'll go under the radar all season.

Until Giannis can rely on his jump shot, they might make it to the final dance, but I can't see them winning anything without a closer.

Jokic and Murray aren't yet in the same category as the other guys you mentioned, they both need some consistency which they will get eventually as they are the least experienced.

LAHug, you're a Lakers fan right, of course you're going to think it's dirty, they held you to ransom till Kawhi made his deicision, fair play, they're going to be competing in the West! Is it dirty that Lakers were tampering with PG13 originally and AD later on, yep. I get what you're saying, but maybe OKC had decided they were going to break it up with all the other moves going on. PG left yeah, but OKC prob got one of the greatest trade hauls in history, I'm sure they're not bothered and now they rebuild.

Holz · July 10, 2019, 04:14:13 PM

The question has to be raised.

If the game is on the line in the playoffs is Curry really Top Level.

Id argue id rather Jimmy Butler then Steph Curry going on past evidence.

jvalles69 · July 10, 2019, 04:30:06 PM

Quote from: Holz on July 10, 2019, 04:14:13 PM
The question has to be raised.

If the game is on the line in the playoffs is Curry really Top Level.

Id argue id rather Jimmy Butler then Steph Curry going on past evidence.

I was actually going to say that about Curry, he hits big shots, but not at big times although he's always a legit threat.

Regardless of all our opinions, I'm pumped for this upcoming season! Looking forward to seeing how dominant Kawhi and PG13 can be next to each other on both ends of the court. I hope they both stay healthy and we see some MJ/Pippen level stuff.

LaHug · July 10, 2019, 04:57:38 PM

Quote from: jvalles69 on July 10, 2019, 04:13:02 PM
LAHug, you're a Lakers fan right, of course you're going to think it's dirty, they held you to ransom till Kawhi made his deicision, fair play, they're going to be competing in the West! Is it dirty that Lakers were tampering with PG13 originally and AD later on, yep. I get what you're saying, but maybe OKC had decided they were going to break it up with all the other moves going on. PG left yeah, but OKC prob got one of the greatest trade hauls in history, I'm sure they're not bothered and now they rebuild.

I guess I'm annoyed that everyone says Lakers are dirty with how they did the Pelicans but nobody's saying the same for the Clippers. And yeah, I'm particularly annoyed about Kawhi holding us to ransom. Quickly gone from a player I loved on the Raptors to a player I hope fails. I guess that's the emotion of sport.