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Adelaide Off-Field 2019

Started by tbagrocks, June 22, 2018, 07:52:43 PM

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shaker

Quote from: Nige on September 01, 2018, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on September 01, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Tex in the news for doing something stupid and no action in this thread?

Have to say I'm pretty disappointed haha
Tex will be the next Andrew Jarman.
What very fat ?

Mat0369

Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
How is this different at all? Both are contracted and both want to leave. Also disgruntled is an odd way to describe someone wanting more money - which is a difficult thing to demand when you've only just signed a contract.

Gov is apparently not happy with management for a variety of reasons. One of those is the fact they told him to take less money because everyone at the club was taking less before giving Bryce a pay rise when he moved over. The other one I read but I can't find the link for is that they mishandled his injury which caused him to miss significant time and have surgery on both ankles this year.That was the icing and he wants out. Both of those are pretty different to a player that has had a child and wants to move closer to be with his family.

Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
Would love to know where you got your info of Adelaide being desperate for pick 1. Sure, it would be nice to top end SA talent, but with our list profile, the next couple of years are crucial and Luko won't really help during that time. If we don't get pick 1 then Gov stays. Simple. Carlton have very few good players, there's no way they don't pay up for someone as talented as McGovern who actually wants to go there.

Just do a quick Google search and see all the articles of the Crows wanting a top 3 pick in the draft to get one of Lukosius or Rankine. With player retention obviously being an issue they want an SA guy that isn't going to bolt for cash or to go home. Carlton also have interest in Shiel and Setterfield and pick 1 is more likely to get used in that trade. I can understand giving up the pick in that deal, but not one for Gov.

Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
Lol. Cameron was worth pick 12 and Gov with his size and physical gifts I'd argue is worth more. Not many players who can mark that well overhead have Gov's speed to apply elite forward pressure as well. Those attributes are very hard to find in one player and we'll really miss him if he leaves so if you don't want him then we'll happily keep him for another two years :)

Weller was traded for pick 2 and Tom Mitchell was traded for pick 14. Dumb teams make dumb trades (hi Gold Coast). Even though Mitchell was out of contract it was pretty obvious the Hawks got him at a good price. He is probably worth in the 14-18 range so he is probably worth pick 16.

I don't see a deal getting done for Gov at Carlton if Shiel is on the table. I think it's likely he ends up somewhere else, maybe the Pies if they strike out on Lynch and May. The Crows can deal with GC to get pick 2 (which will cost them less) and hope the Blues stick to the plan of nabbing Walsh if they keep pick 1. I think SOS is going to throw out that Carlton want Lukosius at some point this offseason to try and get the Crows to call his bluff.

elephants

Quote from: Mat0369 on September 01, 2018, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
How is this different at all? Both are contracted and both want to leave. Also disgruntled is an odd way to describe someone wanting more money - which is a difficult thing to demand when you've only just signed a contract.

Gov is apparently not happy with management for a variety of reasons. One of those is the fact they told him to take less money because everyone at the club was taking less before giving Bryce a pay rise when he moved over. The other one I read but I can't find the link for is that they mishandled his injury which caused him to miss significant time and have surgery on both ankles this year. That was the icing and he wants out. Both of those are pretty different to a player that has had a child and wants to move closer to be with his family.

Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
Would love to know where you got your info of Adelaide being desperate for pick 1. Sure, it would be nice to top end SA talent, but with our list profile, the next couple of years are crucial and Luko won't really help during that time. If we don't get pick 1 then Gov stays. Simple. Carlton have very few good players, there's no way they don't pay up for someone as talented as McGovern who actually wants to go there.

Just do a quick Google search and see all the articles of the Crows wanting a top 3 pick in the draft to get one of Lukosius or Rankine. With player retention obviously being an issue they want an SA guy that isn't going to bolt for cash or to go home. Carlton also have interest in Shiel and Setterfield and pick 1 is more likely to get used in that trade. I can understand giving up the pick in that deal, but not one for Gov.

Quote from: Jay on August 30, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
Lol. Cameron was worth pick 12 and Gov with his size and physical gifts I'd argue is worth more. Not many players who can mark that well overhead have Gov's speed to apply elite forward pressure as well. Those attributes are very hard to find in one player and we'll really miss him if he leaves so if you don't want him then we'll happily keep him for another two years :)

Weller was traded for pick 2 and Tom Mitchell was traded for pick 14. Dumb teams make dumb trades (hi Gold Coast). Even though Mitchell was out of contract it was pretty obvious the Hawks got him at a good price. He is probably worth in the 14-18 range so he is probably worth pick 16.

I don't see a deal getting done for Gov at Carlton if Shiel is on the table. I think it's likely he ends up somewhere else, maybe the Pies if they strike out on Lynch and May. The Crows can deal with GC to get pick 2 (which will cost them less) and hope the Blues stick to the plan of nabbing Walsh if they keep pick 1. I think SOS is going to throw out that Carlton want Lukosius at some point this offseason to try and get the Crows to call his bluff.

Meh, not interested unless you can find the link. Juicy if you can but otherwise it means zip

Mat0369

Quote from: elephants on September 01, 2018, 03:26:46 PM
Meh, not interested unless you can find the link. Juicy if you can but otherwise it means zip

Half the issue is they keep updating articles. I'll see if I can find it.

Money Shot

Carlton recieve: McGovern and 39
Adelaide recieve: 24 and 25

Mark my words ;)

Jay

Quote from: Money Shot on September 13, 2018, 08:52:34 AM
Carlton recieve: McGovern and 39
Adelaide recieve: 24 and 25

Mark my words ;)
Gross. Think we'd hang onto him if that were the offer.

Mat0369

And we don't have pick 24 or 25 so no idea where those come from. Even if it's supposed to be our priority and 2nd round pick, GC will have a priority pick in  between and the Crows have our 2nd rounder from the trade last year

Money Shot

Quote from: Mat0369 on September 13, 2018, 03:41:12 PM
And we don't have pick 24 or 25 so no idea where those come from. Even if it's supposed to be our priority and 2nd round pick, GC will have a priority pick in  between and the Crows have our 2nd rounder from the trade last year
I could be wrong but according to the AFL website we do.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Jay on September 13, 2018, 10:53:14 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on September 13, 2018, 08:52:34 AM
Carlton recieve: McGovern and 39
Adelaide recieve: 24 and 25

Mark my words ;)
Gross. Think we'd hang onto him if that were the offer.

Gov would be worth anywhere between 16-24

24 and 25 (although won't happen as per Mat) would be pretty close to fair

Can't be expected to pay overs on "potential"

Gov has shown glimpses, but he's not worth anything lower than 15

Mat0369

Oh, did Dogs and Crows finish right after each other? I think we have both their 2nd round picks. So after Lynch, Gaff, Polec compo (just off the top of my head) plus 2 priority picks they become 29 and 30

Money Shot

Quote from: Mat0369 on September 13, 2018, 04:57:52 PM
Oh, did Dogs and Crows finish right after each other? I think we have both their 2nd round picks. So after Lynch, Gaff, Polec compo (just off the top of my head) plus 2 priority picks they become 29 and 30
Yeah that is true. Didn't take that into account.

GoLions

#131
Happy Thanksgiving you crazy Crows. Shoutout to my main man TomK.


TomK

A couple of really talented artists' work by the looks of it

Jay

Lmao at that photo! Sucked in Trinda. No point posting a message on the Richmond board because he comes here more often anyway! Imo think Cotchin should be sacked, didn't show up in a big game. That's the criteria for sacking a captain isn't it?

Quote from: Trindacut on July 29, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Maybe you should close these forums off to supporters only if you can't handle a bit of fair criticism. Tex Dusty didn't show up last night, and when the Crows Tigers were poor in the third quarter whole game, it was very poor. Their 4th quarter wasn't very convincing either.

I'm still here because I still love footy and I enjoy getting on here and talking about the big talking points. No one could have predicted that Adelaide Richmond would be out the finals at this end of the season. It's worth talking about.

Trindacut

Quote from: Jay on September 22, 2018, 09:44:56 AM
Lmao at that photo! Sucked in Trinda. No point posting a message on the Richmond board because he comes here more often anyway! Imo think Cotchin should be sacked, didn't show up in a big game. That's the criteria for sacking a captain isn't it?

Quote from: Trindacut on July 29, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Maybe you should close these forums off to supporters only if you can't handle a bit of fair criticism. Tex Dusty didn't show up last night, and when the Crows Tigers were poor in the third quarter whole game, it was very poor. Their 4th quarter wasn't very convincing either.

I'm still here because I still love footy and I enjoy getting on here and talking about the big talking points. No one could have predicted that Adelaide Richmond would be out the finals at this end of the season. It's worth talking about.

Not surprised no one is responding to your useless contributions to this forum.

One look at it and everyone thinks the same thing, you are a deadset f****** mate.

This forum is stupid, and I have no faith in it being moderated fairly. Veteran members have conspired time and again to have me banned permanently from the fanfooty forums. I thought that common sense was prevailing at the administration level because God knows it wasn't at the moderator level.

Turns out though that the administrators are happy to kill the activity of these forums when one-eyed supporters rage out when someone calls out a club or players having problems.

I thought Sloane would go and he didn't, and I thought at the start of the year they might make him Captain to get him to stay. Other then that I've nailed it. I picked them missing the eight, I picked the pre-season camp being worse than how they played it down, and I was right about there being inner termoil months before it got to the media. I don't have a vendetta, I just have strong opinions which I back up when questioned with reasons.

I'll happily find another forum that doesn't ban the victim of trolling and harassment by moron's. Somewhere where I can talk about how surprising West Coast have been this year, how the Tigers blew it and what they need to do to fix things for next year, and how Geelong need to have a hard look at their bottom 8 players in their 22, because that much talent should be playing on September 29.

And somewhere where I can point out that Adelaide were overrated last year, and will be spending the next few years out of the 8 because Tex is a flog, the coach is NQR and the place sounds like a shower joint to work at.

Cya