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Started by tbagrocks, June 22, 2018, 07:52:43 PM

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TomK

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 30, 2018, 05:07:01 AM
@tbag B Smith in for Seedsman with a hammy probably
Most likely, yeah, looking forward to watching Brodie out there :-*

PowerBug

If your team can't do well, you at least want to stop your arch rivals from doing well. I'm worried that these guys will turn it on this week and put a big dent in our season.
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2023 SC: Rank 126

Gigantor

Quote from: PowerBug on July 30, 2018, 03:00:29 PM
If your team can't do well, you at least want to stop your arch rivals from doing well. I'm worried that these guys will turn it on this week and put a big dent in our season.

Wowee its a big game for Port, Win could be 3rd, lose could be 9th  :o

Might have to go for the Crows just for the drama haha

Trindacut

Quote from: TomK on July 30, 2018, 12:48:19 PM
Quote from: Trindacut on July 29, 2018, 11:38:44 AM
Maybe you should close these forums off to supporters only if you can't handle a bit of fair criticism. Tex didn't show up last night, and when the Crows were poor in the third quarter, it was very poor. Their 4th quarter wasn't very convincing either. And you can't blame injuries anymore, you've got the bulk of your players back.

I'm still here because I still love footy and I enjoy getting on here and talking about the big talking points. No one could have predicted that Adelaide would be out the eight at this end of the season. It's worth talking about.
No, I think injuries are still a pretty good reason to use considering the damage was done before our bye when we were 6-7 and were cruelled by injuries during those first 13 weeks, while dealing with all the camp bullshower, and Sloane's contract in the media. Had to go 7-2 after the bye, at least, to have any chance of making the finals but considering our draw and percentage, it was very unlikely but we're still a chance to finish 6-3 in that period, albeit small. Richmond at the G was always going to be a loss and the Melbourne game was a fixture which we lost last year too, they seem to have the wood over us lately, but if you told Crows supporters during the bye that we would've gone 2-1 against the Eags, Cats, and Demons, most would've taken it, it's a decent result considering everything. Also, just because we have the bulk of our players back now, doesn't mean they're completely fit, long term ones like Sloane and McGovern, and constant, short term ones to Betts etc. are gonna take a hit on match fitness and since more than half our list has suffered an injury this year, it's not hard to understand we are where we are.

Also, 3.5 to 1.1 in the last quarter is pretty convincing, especially in the conditions, the rain and wind at the ground was brutal, and we finished the game with 2 more scoring shots; make the most of our opportunities in the first half and not butcher shots from the goal square in the last, we win that game, despite the awful 3rd quarter.

On Tex, you'll struggle to find a Crows supporter who won't say he's been awful since he injured his glute against the Suns in R6, he looks slow and for someone who relies so much on his leading, since he's not a contested mark and never will be, he just can't do that at the moment, defenders are able to get a fist in there so easily. He barely did a pre-season with the Plantar Fascia issue he had, that paired with the glute problem, it's not surprising to see him struggling so much. Also, when the club said he was he was going through a 'mini pre-season' before returning after the bye, and then rushing him back against Freo after a couple of losses, I don't think that helped him at all, he should be put on ice for the rest of the year. The management of players this year has been atrocious, Sloane injuring his foot against the Tigers in R2 and then playing the next two games where he looked awful, to missing the next nine games because of his foot, even though the injury he picked up against Richmond and the one that kept him out for so long were seperate, he still shouldn't have played.

Hopefully the club can learn from this year, get rid of Burton and Hass, who I can't believe we hired after the injury issues they had when they were at Brisbane, find a new ruck since Sauce is cooked, get a good preseason in with no camp rubbish and focus on football to attack 2019 with a full, fit list, actually looking forward to it.

Yeah fair enough. I don't think it accounts for enough but that might be a bit harsh given that one game separates 3rd from 9th.

Tick on Sauce, tick on Burton and Hass, tick on 'no rubbish' during preseason, tick on management of player injuries being atrocious.

Quote from: TomK on July 30, 2018, 12:48:19 PM
Oh, and what do you mean no one could have predicted Adelaide would be out the eight at this end of the season? Didn't you have us 13th on your ladder? Or are you admitting that was a troll?

Either a troll.... or genius? Or both? I genuinely thought that the Crows wouldn't make it. Didn't like a lot of what I was seeing in the back half of last year and thought they were good but overrated in a close season. Bit like how Tiges are overrated this season. They're very good, the Tiges, but they aren't like your Hawks or Geelong in their prime.


Quote from: Gigantor on July 30, 2018, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 30, 2018, 03:00:29 PM
If your team can't do well, you at least want to stop your arch rivals from doing well. I'm worried that these guys will turn it on this week and put a big dent in our season.

Wowee its a big game for Port, Win could be 3rd, lose could be 9th  :o

Might have to go for the Crows just for the drama haha

Should be a cracking game, if I wasn't working I'd be watching it.

Ringo

So easy to forget the number of injuries we had when Hass and Burton were in charge. very few this year so hopefully Adelaide can see this as well.

PowerBug

Quote from: Gigantor on July 30, 2018, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 30, 2018, 03:00:29 PM
If your team can't do well, you at least want to stop your arch rivals from doing well. I'm worried that these guys will turn it on this week and put a big dent in our season.

Wowee its a big game for Port, Win could be 3rd, lose could be 9th  :o

Might have to go for the Crows just for the drama haha
Please no :'(
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Coach of WXV side Rio De Janeiro Jaguars
2023 SC: Rank 126

SilverLion

CEY should be playing seniors, is definitely good enough. If Adelaide won't play him, they should trade him.

PowerBug

Heh Tex was late to the joint presser with Boaky, caught in traffic. Every little thing going wrong for him at the moment haha
Leader of the King Karl Amon fan club
Coach of WXV side Rio De Janeiro Jaguars
2023 SC: Rank 126

Ringo

Quote from: SilverLion on July 31, 2018, 10:47:56 AM
CEY should be playing seniors, is definitely good enough. If Adelaide won't play him, they should trade him.
Rumour has it that Brisbane have expressed some interest in him, Not sure which I prefer Wallis or CEY. 

RaisyDaisy

CEY would be good alongside Cripps I reckon - a second big bodied mid

tbagrocks

I recently met CEY's Auntie, J (Wont say full name, unfair) Ellis. But am stoked for Cam, he'll get another full contract am sure!

What does Adelaide do about Eddie's relationship with star Westies bot Isak Rankine? Forget Lukosius imo, we need Rankine

Adelaide's current picks are #7 (Ours, likely to stay at 7) Melbourne's current #13 and Carltanks #19. That arms us with three inside top 20 with five croweaters to go inside that number! Lukosius looks too hard to get but Rankine, I believe Adelaide are targeting this boy, I just don't know where others see him in draft order

I'm Sam Walsh and Jack Lukosius top 2 picks. I think Carlton will take Walsh as their young forwards are strong. GC or Lions will take Lukosius why wouldn't they? Bailey Smith could go 3 or Rankine.

I don't see Max or Ben King going ahead of these 4 given Max has done ACL and Ben King is a DKP. So Rankine likely to go 3 or 4 imo

So who or what do we trade to either GC, Lions or the Saints for the rights to that #3-4 draft pick, assuming they target Rankine and not Lukosius. But with Harry Dear, Himmleberg, JJ, Tex, Lynch and the Gov. Adelaide doesn't need a KF. But an Eddie Betts replacement who has been compared to McLeod?

I would rather keep CEY. Would a Brisbane if GC finish 17th, trade us pick #3 for #7 and #13? For example

I believe the GCS will nab Jack Lukocius in a heart beat to replace Lynch, I don't think Carltank will take JL with #1 but why the hell not?

it's all very sceptical and given trades can happen on draft night :o  I really do see Adelaide going after one of Jack Lukosius or Isak Rankine. FULL BORE. That, is a given!

What of Harry Dear, Singorello who I really like, dash, run but ball use sublime. He has a future and Id like to see him play now we are done as finalists. Ben Jarman, O'Brien, Himmelberg, Ben Davis. Patrick Wilson from Sturt I like, he gets another rookie contract.

I just wonder if any of these or an Atkins, Gallucci could be used to lure those top #5 picks that see's Adelaide nail those top few Crow Eaters!

Jay

Cmon tbag, CEY is nowhere near AFL standard. Would be stunned if he gets another contract, our mid depth next year will be even better with Crouch back too.

Agree that Rankine would be a great fit, we don't have anyone like him. Exciting off-season to come but most importantly we just need guys to be injury free and get a full pre-season in.

Also probably need to look at another ruckman - Preuss perhaps?

tbagrocks

Quote from: Jay on August 12, 2018, 06:52:32 PM
Cmon tbag, CEY is nowhere near AFL standard. Would be stunned if he gets another contract, our mid depth next year will be even better with Crouch back too.

Agree that Rankine would be a great fit, we don't have anyone like him. Exciting off-season to come but most importantly we just need guys to be injury free and get a full pre-season in.

Also probably need to look at another ruckman - Preuss perhaps?
But I like CEY :'(  Basically just like Mitch Grigg who won the Magarey soon as he was sent packing back to Norwood, far too good for SANFL, CEY is far, FAR too good for the SANFL. I think he has a place around the Crouch Bro's, Gibbs, Sloane and Greenwood. CEY will be a decent AFL footballer, put my hat on that!
        I also think Patrick Wilson is too good and Singorello too

Still don't see what's so wrong with Reilly O'Brien, why target another second stringer when we have a young kid who can play a bit just waiting?

TomK

Quote from: tbagrocks on August 12, 2018, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: Jay on August 12, 2018, 06:52:32 PM
Cmon tbag, CEY is nowhere near AFL standard. Would be stunned if he gets another contract, our mid depth next year will be even better with Crouch back too.

Agree that Rankine would be a great fit, we don't have anyone like him. Exciting off-season to come but most importantly we just need guys to be injury free and get a full pre-season in.

Also probably need to look at another ruckman - Preuss perhaps?
But I like CEY :'(  Basically just like Mitch Grigg who won the Magarey soon as he was sent packing back to Norwood, far too good for SANFL, CEY is far, FAR too good for the SANFL. I think he has a place around the Crouch Bro's, Gibbs, Sloane and Greenwood. CEY will be a decent AFL footballer, put my hat on that!
        I also think Patrick Wilson is too good and Singorello too

Still don't see what's so wrong with Reilly O'Brien, why target another second stringer when we have a young kid who can play a bit just waiting?
Jeez you really don't have any idea, do you? CEY can't exist, most weeks, in the same side as Crouch and Hugh, it worked fine last week against Port's one paced, slow midfield, but against quicker mids, we get exposed on transition. I'm fine with keeping him as depth cause he's very good depth but he'll never be a star due to being slow, his below average skills, going missing during games, and prone to being very fumbly with the ball; he will never be part of our best side. He, along with Grigg and most likely Wilson, probably fits into the category of too good for the SANFL but not quite there at the higher level.

And on ROB, unless you want our next ruck to run at 0% by foot every match, I suggest we target a ruck this off-season, Pruess would be a great get.

TomK

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2018-08-20/skippers-successful-surgery

QuoteCrows captain Taylor Walker has undergone successful foot surgery this morning.

The 28-year-old underwent a minor procedure to repair the plantar fascia in his left foot which has troubled him at different times throughout the season.

Crows Head of Football Brett Burton said the Club decided to make best use of Walker’s season being cut short due to a two-week suspension.

“Importantly, he will be able to complete a thorough rehabilitation program and be ready to go for the start of pre-season training,” Burton said.
Great news, hopefully this allows him to get through preseason with no setbacks, desperately needs it to get some fitness back.