WXV Round 12: Will Cairo sink the Destroyers?

[GoLions]

You don't have 15 available to field Holz?

A pie can only be cut into so many pieces

[Hellopplz]

Boomzie can't seem to log into FF so asked me to post Tokyo lineup.

Def: Johannisen, Short, Mihocek, Plowman
Mid: Cotchin (VC), Phillips (C) Ross, Whitfield
Ruc: Lycett
Fwd: Fritsch, Thomas, Impey, Cripps
U: Powell-Pepper, Hoskin-Elliott
EMG: Atkins, Dea, Kerr

[Adamant]

@Purple77, a question regarding non-loopholing. I intend to name Macrae at M4, Naitanui at U1 and Redden at U2 next week, however if E1 Hopper scores 120+ this weekend and any of those aforementioned players are unavailable for selection next week, would I be forced to name an inferior player to avoid getting his score as it would be seen as loopholing (when in reality he would have been the next player selected anyway)?

Conversely, if Hopper scores 37 this weekend and one of Macrae/Naitanui/Redden are unavailable for selection, but Dion Prestia becomes available for selection next week (a player that I would have selected ahead of Hopper if fit), would I be prevented from naming him as it would be seen as avoiding Hopper's score?

This is why I was absolutely baffled to see loopholing scrapped. Seems like far too much grey area to me!

Hmm, that's an interesting thought.

After much pondering, the reason of the rule comes to mind, which essentially is (consistent with normal weeks), to ensure you name your best 18 players at the time of the opening bounce of the first game (minus known and certain unavailabilities). You decide on a sequential order of players: 1-15, then 16, then 17, then 18.

The practice being banned is artificially changing that 'natural' sequence to gain the benefit of known scores from your 16th+ and 19th+ (often known future scores of 0) players.

With that in mind, I feel like that given prestia is not a known and certain unavailablity (and you want his score if he is available), you should name him on your bench before Hopper (or a blank spot in the way you've named your team).

Should it turn out that he doesn't play, then you can't name a player with a known future score of zero in E1 (unless you have no choice). You'll have to name your next best unlocked player.

It's not nice, this situation, but that's the risk you have to weigh up now  :(

Some food for thought once we do our rule review in September.

That does seem to make the most sense given the circumstances. Thanks Admin.

I doubt Prestia plays next week anyway with Richmond having the bye the following week, and Hopper is going to ton up this week so I'll give him a run.

[Torpedo10]

MOSCOW

D: Burton, Scharenberg, Crisp, Jones
M: Treloar (C), Heppell (VC), Banfield, Grigg
R: Kreuzer
F: De Goey, Petrevski-Seton, Hewett, Watts
I: Jacobs, Sinclair

E: Stretch, Barrass, Kelly

Grigg gets a run considering Conigs' injury.

[Holz]

You don't have 15 available to field Holz?

hard to tell with it being the split round.

have decided to give some of the boys a week off so they are ready for a big back end of the season after the bye. Top scored last week in 2nd gear so taking it even easier this week.

Good to get some experiences into some of the lesser players, when you have a dynasty its important to do that.

[RaisyDaisy]

You don't have 15 available to field Holz?

hard to tell with it being the split round.

have decided to give some of the boys a week off so they are ready for a big back end of the season after the bye. Top scored last week in 2nd gear so taking it even easier this week.

Good to get some experiences into some of the lesser players, when you have a dynasty its important to do that.

Nice way of saying you have no depth lol :P

[Holz]

You don't have 15 available to field Holz?

hard to tell with it being the split round.

have decided to give some of the boys a week off so they are ready for a big back end of the season after the bye. Top scored last week in 2nd gear so taking it even easier this week.

Good to get some experiences into some of the lesser players, when you have a dynasty its important to do that.

Nice way of saying you have no depth lol :P

If i had no depth i would be fielding 8 players and wouldn't have top scored last round.

[meow meow]

CHRISTCHURCH SAINTS

B: Shaw, McVeigh (VC), Wilson, Andrews, Langdon
M: Gibbs, Ablett, Griffen, Parker
R: Boyd
F: McLean (C), Wells, Stringer
I: Austin, McKenna

E: Wills, Richards, Bailey, Daicos, Cox, Morris

Sandi and Waite out. Going with the ol' 7 defender setup.

[Ringo]

LONDON ROYALS (Traditional)
D: Blake Hardwick, Heath Grundy,Darcy Gardiner ,Brad Shepphard
M: Luke Shuey, Dominic Sheed, Jack Higgins, Shaun Burgoyne
R: Callum Sinclair
F: Orazio Fantasia,Jake Waterman, Tim Membrey, Sam Gray
U: Neville Jetta,Adam Saad
E: Jordan Roughead,  Charlie Spargo, Dylan Grimes

C:  Luke Shuey
VC: Callum Sinclair

In:  Sheed, Jetta

Out: Spargo. Lynch

[upthemaidens]

    Pacific Islanders

D: Michael Hurley, Matt Suckling, Bailey Williams, Liam Duggan   
M: Tom Mitchell (C), Marcus Bontempelli (VC), Andrew Gaff, Sam Gibson
R: Jarrod Witts
F: Devon Smith, Matt de Boer, Rhys Stanley, Paul Ahern
Int: Adam Tomlinson, Jarryd Lyons

E: Callum Ah Chee, Steven Motlop, Jake Kolodjashnij

Resting: Josh Jenkins

[upthemaidens]

After a long wait and multiple injuries, Paul Ahern finally makes his debut for the Islanders.  :)

[Ricochet]

New Delhi Tigers

DEF Lloyd, Howe, Rich, STaylor
MID Hannebery, Sidebottom (VC), Steven, Ziebell
RUCK SMartin (C)
FWD Menegola, Gray, Dahlhaus, JMartin
UTIL Newnes, Langdon

EMER: Tucker, Morrison, McInerny

[Purple 77]

Berlin

Attack

D: Michael Hibberd, Luke Hodge, Dane Rampe
M: Josh P Kennedy, Nathan Jones, Brendon Goddard, Jack Viney
R: Max Gawn
F: Lance Franklin, Michael Walters, Charlie Dixon, Ben Ronke, Matthew Wright
U: Zak Jones, Daniel Lloyd
E: Stefan Giro, Tom Murphy, Mason Redman

C: Max Gawn
VC: Lance Franklin

[Adamant]

Milkshakes to E1. Milera in at E2.

[meow meow]

Rio will win. 1/3 of our best XV out is okay most weeks, like if we were up against Dublin or something but McKernan and his crew will prove too much to conquer, even with HGA.