Port Adelaide Forwards

Started by jfitty, May 29, 2018, 10:37:01 AM

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Bully

Quote from: ubeaut on June 07, 2018, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 07, 2018, 11:39:05 AM
Quote from: iZander on June 07, 2018, 09:10:03 AM
Quote from: Brikett on June 07, 2018, 08:42:53 AM
Surprised so many are off Gray.

Understand the role change is causing concerns for some people, but even playing mostly forward you'd still think he would average around the 95-100 mark.

Can't see any other options (Robbo, Hoff, Buddy etc) being any more consistent.

Will be around 500k flat after next week.
well he averaged 91 in it last year so thats probably what he would average in it :P

Yeah, its more his price his too expensive for a 91 average for me, still a very viable option though and one i will be considering

91 + the extra game. He's projected to score 87 so add 8 points to his average. I'm also not convinced he stays in the forward line, Thomas due back this week so we will probably see him back in the middle.
While I agree in theory with your "extra game" argument, it's not necessarily so in practice. Any player can get injured/suspended/rested, including the Port fwds. Plus you have to factor in players scores who are played in place during that one extra game.
I don't think adding 8 points to his average works out with all the permutations that can occur.
In saying that, if Gray goes back to playing more midfield this week he's coming in for Guelfi next week.

This is obviously contigent on your numbers but even so, it becomes the difference between Gray & your 18th best scorer. Reckon most people will be scratching around to field 18 next week & round 14.

ubeaut

Quote from: ubeaut on May 30, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
I just don't see the merit in any of these players apart from bye coverage.
Howe showed last week the pitfalls of getting a player just to suit bye structure when other options were preferred.
Gray is back playing mostly fwd.
Boak hasn't averaged over 100 for years and Westhoff never has.
Walters,Buddy and Robbo seem like better options for me.
Walters averaging 107 in new role, Robbo playing better than ever and Buddy is Buddy.
Can anyone convince me otherwise?
Still far from convinced on port fwds.
Boak has had two stinkers in a row.
Westhoff poor score last week, kicked 3 goals last night and only got 92. Both are in the twilight of their career.
Gray still stuck in the fwd line, and seeing they just beat the premiers can't see that changing, especially with Wines,SPP,Rocky,Ebert,Polec etc. doing the job in the middle.
Was looking at Gray for Guelfi next week but not so keen now.

B.

Quote from: ubeaut on June 09, 2018, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: ubeaut on May 30, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
I just don't see the merit in any of these players apart from bye coverage.
Howe showed last week the pitfalls of getting a player just to suit bye structure when other options were preferred.
Gray is back playing mostly fwd.
Boak hasn't averaged over 100 for years and Westhoff never has.
Walters,Buddy and Robbo seem like better options for me.
Walters averaging 107 in new role, Robbo playing better than ever and Buddy is Buddy.
Can anyone convince me otherwise?
Still far from convinced on port fwds.
Boak has had two stinkers in a row.
Westhoff poor score last week, kicked 3 goals last night and only got 92. Both are in the twilight of their career.
Gray still stuck in the fwd line, and seeing they just beat the premiers can't see that changing, especially with Wines,SPP,Rocky,Ebert,Polec etc. doing the job in the middle.
Was looking at Gray for Guelfi next week but not so keen now.

I liked Westhoff and Gray over Boak.
Gray started at centre bounces then moved forward, but he is a class above and looks that dangerous when he’s aroind the ball. Port should be amongst it and win plenty of games here on in meaning scoring should be up. Westhoff playing second tuck and kicking goals, like what I seen from him.
Who else could go far better than these 2?? And even 3 with Boak thrown in there

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: ubeaut on June 09, 2018, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: ubeaut on May 30, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
I just don't see the merit in any of these players apart from bye coverage.
Howe showed last week the pitfalls of getting a player just to suit bye structure when other options were preferred.
Gray is back playing mostly fwd.
Boak hasn't averaged over 100 for years and Westhoff never has.
Walters,Buddy and Robbo seem like better options for me.
Walters averaging 107 in new role, Robbo playing better than ever and Buddy is Buddy.
Can anyone convince me otherwise?
Still far from convinced on port fwds.
Boak has had two stinkers in a row.
Westhoff poor score last week, kicked 3 goals last night and only got 92. Both are in the twilight of their career.
Gray still stuck in the fwd line, and seeing they just beat the premiers can't see that changing, especially with Wines,SPP,Rocky,Ebert,Polec etc. doing the job in the middle.
Was looking at Gray for Guelfi next week but not so keen now.

I'm probably going to have all 3 of them

The reality is, outside of Heeney and McLean (who I already have) and possibly TMac, all the forwards are a crap shoot (Sicily down back)

If any forward is scoring above 90 most weeks that's about as good as it gets

iZander

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 09, 2018, 10:01:34 AM
Quote from: ubeaut on June 09, 2018, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: ubeaut on May 30, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
I just don't see the merit in any of these players apart from bye coverage.
Howe showed last week the pitfalls of getting a player just to suit bye structure when other options were preferred.
Gray is back playing mostly fwd.
Boak hasn't averaged over 100 for years and Westhoff never has.
Walters,Buddy and Robbo seem like better options for me.
Walters averaging 107 in new role, Robbo playing better than ever and Buddy is Buddy.
Can anyone convince me otherwise?
Still far from convinced on port fwds.
Boak has had two stinkers in a row.
Westhoff poor score last week, kicked 3 goals last night and only got 92. Both are in the twilight of their career.
Gray still stuck in the fwd line, and seeing they just beat the premiers can't see that changing, especially with Wines,SPP,Rocky,Ebert,Polec etc. doing the job in the middle.
Was looking at Gray for Guelfi next week but not so keen now.

I'm probably going to have all 3 of them

The reality is, outside of Heeney and McLean (who I already have) and possibly TMac, all the forwards are a crap shoot (Sicily down back)

If any forward is scoring above 90 most weeks that's about as good as it gets
If forwards are so crap why have sicily down back :P

ubeaut

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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 09, 2018, 10:01:34 AM
Quote from: ubeaut on June 09, 2018, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: ubeaut on May 30, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
I just don't see the merit in any of these players apart from bye coverage.
Howe showed last week the pitfalls of getting a player just to suit bye structure when other options were preferred.
Gray is back playing mostly fwd.
Boak hasn't averaged over 100 for years and Westhoff never has.
Walters,Buddy and Robbo seem like better options for me.
Walters averaging 107 in new role, Robbo playing better than ever and Buddy is Buddy.
Can anyone convince me otherwise?
Still far from convinced on port fwds.
Boak has had two stinkers in a row.
Westhoff poor score last week, kicked 3 goals last night and only got 92. Both are in the twilight of their career.
Gray still stuck in the fwd line, and seeing they just beat the premiers can't see that changing, especially with Wines,SPP,Rocky,Ebert,Polec etc. doing the job in the middle.
Was looking at Gray for Guelfi next week but not so keen now.

I'm probably going to have all 3 of them

The reality is, outside of Heeney and McLean (who I already have) and possibly TMac, all the forwards are a crap shoot (Sicily down back)

If any forward is scoring above 90 most weeks that's about as good as it gets
Sicily therefore is better ending up in our fwd lines (which is the opposite of what I thought 2 months ago)
TMac is averaging 111. Walters well over 100 without injury affected score.
Robbo 101.
So no need to settle for 90+ imo.
Problem is Robbo injured, TMac bye next week.
Gray has a huge ceiling so he may come in, just wish he'd play more mid.
Boak is just not worth a spot. Rather Buddy as again great ceiling, but would have to wait till after his bye...

Ricochet

TMac, McLean, Gray, Heeney, Hoff, Sicily, MRobbo, Menegola, Buddy, Hogan (and Darling/Acres who are inj), plus Walters (excl inj game) are all averaging around 98+

There's plenty of fwd options

RaisyDaisy

I meant forward options right now, during the byes

I obviously know the others and what they're averaging, which is why Sicily is down back because there are more forward choices than defenders

shaker

Gray is the only one I'm interested in and with another average score should see him below 500K next week with a highish B/E ( anyone work out what it will be ?) so could wait an extra week , not interested in Boak and Westhoff only if I move Sicily to the backs.

RaisyDaisy

I can grab both Gray and Hoff next week

Definitely getting Gray, and I already have Boak so need to decide if I want Hoff

Boaks last two weeks haven't been great, but I think he's definitely good enough for F6 and is quite durable compared to a lot of the higher averaging forwards who miss games

RaisyDaisy

Really struggling to figure out what to do with these blokes

Gray and Hoff are options, but now I am even looking at Wingard lol

Why did he all of a sudden have 18 CBA's which resulted in a 31 touch game?

All these blokes seem to get thrown around the ground at random and it's a lotto as to what you could get

I can bring in Gray and Hoff, but I could also bring in JJK and Wingard instead and save over 200k doing so

I know it sounds bad picking those two, but I'm flowered, low on trades and doubtful to even complete my side hence looking at these cheaper types


North Melbournes Finest

Gray is the safe option, I will be picking him up, and not sure what his CBA's were on the weekend, but he seemed to have a better mix between midfield/forward than previous games.

Ringo

Wingard imo a huge risk with only 4 scores over 80 in the first 11 rounds. Last week was his first ton since Rd 1.

I have gone JJK this week and have the Hoff.

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 12, 2018, 03:45:15 PM
Really struggling to figure out what to do with these blokes

Gray and Hoff are options, but now I am even looking at Wingard lol

Why did he all of a sudden have 18 CBA's which resulted in a 31 touch game?

All these blokes seem to get thrown around the ground at random and it's a lotto as to what you could get

I can bring in Gray and Hoff, but I could also bring in JJK and Wingard instead and save over 200k doing so

I know it sounds bad picking those two, but I'm flowered, low on trades and doubtful to even complete my side hence looking at these cheaper types

That's why it's good to have them all.

Port has a dream run coming up -

vs Dogs (h)
vs Melb (h)
vs Carl (a)
vs Saints (h)
vs Freo (a)
vs GWS (h)

All winnable & highly likely Port players scoff all the points.

iZander

Quote from: Bully on June 12, 2018, 04:06:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 12, 2018, 03:45:15 PM
Really struggling to figure out what to do with these blokes

Gray and Hoff are options, but now I am even looking at Wingard lol

Why did he all of a sudden have 18 CBA's which resulted in a 31 touch game?

All these blokes seem to get thrown around the ground at random and it's a lotto as to what you could get

I can bring in Gray and Hoff, but I could also bring in JJK and Wingard instead and save over 200k doing so

I know it sounds bad picking those two, but I'm flowered, low on trades and doubtful to even complete my side hence looking at these cheaper types

That's why it's good to have them all.

Port has a dream run coming up -

vs Dogs (h)
vs Melb (h)
vs Carl (a)
vs Saints (h)
vs Freo (a)
vs GWS (h)

All winnable & highly likely Port players scoff all the points.
I have no idea of the actual stats but i feel they are a very poor fantasy side in general and really spasmotic, they can win matchs with no1 tonning. If wingard plays mid again legit option but only 1 game and could change at any moment :/