Round 9 Trades

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MontyJnr

Quote from: Samm79 on May 16, 2018, 03:12:13 PM
Was going to go Doedee and Naughton to Simpson and Ronke (via Sicily)

Then I read that Kelly may still be another week away, he's be rotting on the pine since Round 3, I could trade him to Oliver and still go Naughton to Simpson.

If I take the later Kelly is at M8 but I miss Ronke and don't generate about $100K cash.

So my question is, should I Trade Kelly to Oliver or Doedee to Ronke?

Miss Ronke? You've missed Ronke. If you brought in a 123k rookie and he only went up to 223k you would consider it a fail, so the "make a quick 100k" excuse doesn't cut it for me personally.

Ricochet

Doedee to Yeo
Henry to Phillips

If Pendles and Walters are back this then should only have the 3 rooks on field. Kelly, Murray and Fritsch

Samm79

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 16, 2018, 03:22:52 PM

What's the 3rd option? Don't love either of them tbh

We've held Kelly this long, and now they've actually said they expect him to play next week so we have to hold

I think the Ronke ship has sailed, but that's just me - I never get rookies that have already gone up, let alone as much as he already has

Agree with you, I don't love either of them to be honest.

Generally agree on the Ronke point but with the lack of bubble boys (Phillips next week) I think there's a fair argument to get him in. Have been thinking the same with Kelly but he also may come back in and stink it up too, as he may not be 100% fit. He has value now, he may not have as much in the future like our mate Billings!

As to the third option is I don't know! The ripe rookies are Naughton, Murray, Doedee and to a lesser extent Brayshaw, Crowden, Garlett, Fritsch and Higgins. $207K in the tin. Could go early on Phillips, and shuffle the DPPs around? None of the other one gamers excite me from a JS perspective so that stuffs next weeks plans....

Quote from: MontyJnr on May 16, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
Miss Ronke? You've missed Ronke. If you brought in a 123k rookie and he only went up to 223k you would consider it a fail, so the "make a quick 100k" excuse doesn't cut it for me personally.

Generally speaking I agree with you but I am not sure in this instant. It's partially due to no decent rookies being on the bubble this week and I try not to go early. He's 214K, has the 120 in his rolling average for two, averaging 90 odd. He has sound JS which is crucial for the bye period and should be worth circa $350-70 at bye time and easily traded to a more proven option in Round 14.

I'll list my team to give you the opportunity to offer some constructive feedback as to what I should do

Laird, Yeo, Hurley, Doedee, Murray, Naughton (Coffield, Murphy)
Macrae, Fyfe, Treloar, Mitchell, Martin, Coniglio, Kelly, Kelly (Brayshaw, Holman, Garlett)
Gawn, Grundy (English)
Sicily, Lambert, Smith, Fritsch, Higgins, Spargo (Crowden, Guelfi)

Cheers


ubeaut

Quote from: MontyJnr on May 16, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: Samm79 on May 16, 2018, 03:12:13 PM
Was going to go Doedee and Naughton to Simpson and Ronke (via Sicily)

Then I read that Kelly may still be another week away, he's be rotting on the pine since Round 3, I could trade him to Oliver and still go Naughton to Simpson.

If I take the later Kelly is at M8 but I miss Ronke and don't generate about $100K cash.

So my question is, should I Trade Kelly to Oliver or Doedee to Ronke?

Miss Ronke? You've missed Ronke. If you brought in a 123k rookie and he only went up to 223k you would consider it a fail, so the "make a quick 100k" excuse doesn't cut it for me personally.
I'm in two minds about this. I usually don't get a rookie if they've already risen. On the other hand Swans play Freo,Lions,Carlton and Saints. Every chance he not only keeps his spot, but gets to around 350k. That's another 150k on top of the 100k. Then trade in round 14.

Ringo

Quote from: ubeaut on May 16, 2018, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 16, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: Samm79 on May 16, 2018, 03:12:13 PM
Was going to go Doedee and Naughton to Simpson and Ronke (via Sicily)

Then I read that Kelly may still be another week away, he's be rotting on the pine since Round 3, I could trade him to Oliver and still go Naughton to Simpson.

If I take the later Kelly is at M8 but I miss Ronke and don't generate about $100K cash.

So my question is, should I Trade Kelly to Oliver or Doedee to Ronke?

Miss Ronke? You've missed Ronke. If you brought in a 123k rookie and he only went up to 223k you would consider it a fail, so the "make a quick 100k" excuse doesn't cut it for me personally.
I'm in two minds about this. I usually don't get a rookie if they've already risen. On the other hand Swans play Freo,Lions,Carlton and Saints. Every chance he not only keeps his spot, but gets to around 350k. That's another 150k on top of the 100k. Then trade in round 14.
Who goes when Buddy comes back is my question here. Ronke has been the benefactor from his absence but do Swans keep him or does he go back.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Samm79 on May 16, 2018, 04:56:27 PM
Laird, Yeo, Hurley, Doedee, Murray, Naughton (Coffield, Murphy)
Macrae, Fyfe, Treloar, Mitchell, Martin, Coniglio, Kelly, Kelly (Brayshaw, Holman, Garlett)
Gawn, Grundy (English)
Sicily, Lambert, Smith, Fritsch, Higgins, Spargo (Crowden, Guelfi)

I reckon you've got quite a few options here

Doedee I would keep ahead of guys like Naugton, Brayshaw, Holman, Garlett and Crowden - I would punt any 2 of those before Doedee

You can trade out a rookie mid, swing Spargo into mids, and then you could either bring in a prem forward or you could swing Sicily back when trading out Naughton

You've got a lot of flexibility here, so it comes down to who your main targets are over the next few weeks

I think you need to target Heeney/Gray/McLean more than you need Simmo at this point, so you can swing Sicily back and bring in one of them

You'll still need downgrade options tho, so can go early on Phillips and you will still have Cummings plus a few more over the next few weeks

Brayshaw/Holman down to Phillips (who is a better replacement for Kelly on field this week over Bray/Hol) and then Naughton out, Sicily back and McLean in, or something like that - plenty of choices available

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Ringo on May 16, 2018, 05:28:59 PM
Who goes when Buddy comes back is my question here. Ronke has been the benefactor from his absence but do Swans keep him or does he go back.

McCartin goes for Buddy

No way Ronke gets dropped in the next 2 weeks at least - I expect more, but even 2 is enough to get the funds we need

iZander

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 16, 2018, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: Ringo on May 16, 2018, 05:28:59 PM
Who goes when Buddy comes back is my question here. Ronke has been the benefactor from his absence but do Swans keep him or does he go back.

McCartin goes for Buddy

No way Ronke gets dropped in the next 2 weeks at least - I expect more, but even 2 is enough to get the funds we need
lol 2 weeks is not enough, that would be terrible for the byes :P

But i expect him to play all through the byes

MontyJnr

#83
Quote from: Samm79 on May 16, 2018, 04:56:27 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 16, 2018, 03:22:52 PM

What's the 3rd option? Don't love either of them tbh

We've held Kelly this long, and now they've actually said they expect him to play next week so we have to hold

I think the Ronke ship has sailed, but that's just me - I never get rookies that have already gone up, let alone as much as he already has

Agree with you, I don't love either of them to be honest.

Generally agree on the Ronke point but with the lack of bubble boys (Phillips next week) I think there's a fair argument to get him in. Have been thinking the same with Kelly but he also may come back in and stink it up too, as he may not be 100% fit. He has value now, he may not have as much in the future like our mate Billings!

As to the third option is I don't know! The ripe rookies are Naughton, Murray, Doedee and to a lesser extent Brayshaw, Crowden, Garlett, Fritsch and Higgins. $207K in the tin. Could go early on Phillips, and shuffle the DPPs around? None of the other one gamers excite me from a JS perspective so that stuffs next weeks plans....

Quote from: MontyJnr on May 16, 2018, 03:39:35 PM
Miss Ronke? You've missed Ronke. If you brought in a 123k rookie and he only went up to 223k you would consider it a fail, so the "make a quick 100k" excuse doesn't cut it for me personally.

Generally speaking I agree with you but I am not sure in this instant. It's partially due to no decent rookies being on the bubble this week and I try not to go early. He's 214K, has the 120 in his rolling average for two, averaging 90 odd. He has sound JS which is crucial for the bye period and should be worth circa $350-70 at bye time and easily traded to a more proven option in Round 14.

I'll list my team to give you the opportunity to offer some constructive feedback as to what I should do

Laird, Yeo, Hurley, Doedee, Murray, Naughton (Coffield, Murphy)
Macrae, Fyfe, Treloar, Mitchell, Martin, Coniglio, Kelly, Kelly (Brayshaw, Holman, Garlett)
Gawn, Grundy (English)
Sicily, Lambert, Smith, Fritsch, Higgins, Spargo (Crowden, Guelfi)

Cheers

I agree Kelly might be underwhelming on return, as we've seen groin injuries in the past limit output - but if you're taking this stance, you should've cut ties weeks ago. I think everyone who has held this long is almost forced into trusting that he will come back strong and be a solid POD. You would put yourself well behind the pack if you only traded him now.

Personally, I would do Naughton to Keeffe (who many Sicily owners including myself started with as a floating donut anyway), play Sicily in defence and then upgrade a Holman/Crowden/Garlett/Brayshaw type to McLean (whose BE is still just 70).

Samm79

Quote from: iZander on May 16, 2018, 05:37:56 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 16, 2018, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: Ringo on May 16, 2018, 05:28:59 PM
Who goes when Buddy comes back is my question here. Ronke has been the benefactor from his absence but do Swans keep him or does he go back.

McCartin goes for Buddy

No way Ronke gets dropped in the next 2 weeks at least - I expect more, but even 2 is enough to get the funds we need
lol 2 weeks is not enough, that would be terrible for the byes :P

But i expect him to play all through the byes

From Friday night Robinson, Florent, McCartin and possibly Towers would get dropped before him

Samm79

#85
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 16, 2018, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Samm79 on May 16, 2018, 04:56:27 PM
Laird, Yeo, Hurley, Doedee, Murray, Naughton (Coffield, Murphy)
Macrae, Fyfe, Treloar, Mitchell, Martin, Coniglio, Kelly, Kelly (Brayshaw, Holman, Garlett)
Gawn, Grundy (English)
Sicily, Lambert, Smith, Fritsch, Higgins, Spargo (Crowden, Guelfi)

I reckon you've got quite a few options here

Doedee I would keep ahead of guys like Naugton, Brayshaw, Holman, Garlett and Crowden - I would punt any 2 of those before Doedee

You can trade out a rookie mid, swing Spargo into mids, and then you could either bring in a prem forward or you could swing Sicily back when trading out Naughton

You've got a lot of flexibility here, so it comes down to who your main targets are over the next few weeks

I think you need to target Heeney/Gray/McLean more than you need Simmo at this point, so you can swing Sicily back and bring in one of them

You'll still need downgrade options tho, so can go early on Phillips and you will still have Cummings plus a few more over the next few weeks

Brayshaw/Holman down to Phillips (who is a better replacement for Kelly on field this week over Bray/Hol) and then Naughton out, Sicily back and McLean in, or something like that - plenty of choices available

I hear you, Naughton is one who’s definitely going. The others mentioned are pretty average scorers, but I feel they still have a bit of $$ to go and Doedee has plateaued and is fat as... I’m a little short on trades so I’m trying to milk the cows for all they’re worth. On that note too I’m looking for value with the upgrades, the forward options that I want are overpriced  and Heeney is a round 14 bye... Simmo is pretty good value at the moment... granted the forwards are weak..

Dazzalenko


The Hoff (vs GC in China) or McLean (VS Crows in Adelaide) for this week???

iZander

Quote from: Dazzalenko on May 16, 2018, 07:58:24 PM

The Hoff (vs GC in China) or McLean (VS Crows in Adelaide) for this week???
Well mclean obviously given Hoff has the bye next week :P

If you want to get him wait a week or 2

dmac07

Lycett to Grundy

Doedee to Simpson/Howe

Billings to Menegola/Bont/Crouch

Fisher to Danger

Which one for my second trade after Banfield to Phillips leaves me 230k in the kitty.


HoleMeal

Quote from: dmac07 on May 17, 2018, 02:45:07 PM
Lycett to Grundy

Doedee to Simpson/Howe

Billings to Menegola/Bont/Crouch

Fisher to Danger

Which one for my second trade after Banfield to Phillips leaves me 230k in the kitty.
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