Todd Pieceofshytstein.

Started by Colty, May 08, 2018, 03:27:07 PM

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quinny88

Quote from: Hazza09 on May 20, 2018, 12:59:38 AM
If Macrae had those stats he’d scored 200!  :o

Macrae in rare form but not sure he's gonna get 39 hitouts  ;D

Ingram

Of course Goldie does something the week I. trade him. Hopefully Nic Nat has 100 by HT

Ricochet

Might kick start a bit of a price rise and make upgrading him easier

GoLions

Quote from: Holz on May 20, 2018, 12:56:32 AM
39 hitouts 17 touches 12 contested, 1 goal, 2 goal assists; 6 tackles 5 clearances, 1 contested mark, 2 intercepts, 8 score assists with 77% didposal effecirncy and his team crushed the opposition and easily won the clearance battle.

112 points is that a joke
I think the bigger joke is you posting this exact comment 6.5 hours earlier

Quote from: Holz on May 19, 2018, 06:12:27 PM
39 hitouts 17 touches 12 contested, 1 goal, 2 goal assists; 6 tackles 5 clearances, 1 contested mark, 2 intercepts, 8 score assists with 77% didposal effecirncy and his team crushed the opposition and easily won the clearance battle.

112 points is that a joke

But let's humour you for a moment

76% DE from 17 touches, let us assume all the handballs were effective because only spuds miss opponents by hand. 12 effective handball is about 18 points. 1 effective kick gives you 4 points or so. 1 clanger kick gives -4ish, and 2 ineffective for 0-2 points. So about 20 points for the touches. The mark and 6 tackles gets about 25 points. 10 points for the goal. 0 points for the clearances. 10 points for the goal assists, probably another 10 for the behind assists. I don't have his HTA stats. Add maybe an extra 20 for contested possessions, gets him to 95 points. Take away another 8 points for the frees against. 87 all up. 27 points left for HTA which is definitely possible.

Holz

Quote from: GoLions on May 20, 2018, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 19, 2018, 06:12:27 PM
39 hitouts 17 touches 12 contested, 1 goal, 2 goal assists; 6 tackles 5 clearances, 1 contested mark, 2 intercepts, 8 score assists with 77% didposal effecirncy and his team crushed the opposition and easily won the clearance battle.

112 points is that a joke

But let's humour you for a moment

76% DE from 17 touches, let us assume all the handballs were effective because only spuds miss opponents by hand. 12 effective handball is about 18 points. 1 effective kick gives you 4 points or so. 1 clanger kick gives -4ish, and 2 ineffective for 0-2 points. So about 20 points for the touches. The mark and 6 tackles gets about 25 points. 10 points for the goal. 0 points for the clearances. 10 points for the goal assists, probably another 10 for the behind assists. I don't have his HTA stats. Add maybe an extra 20 for contested possessions, gets him to 95 points. Take away another 8 points for the frees against. 87 all up. 27 points left for HTA which is definitely possible.

Meow says a contested possession is 3 points

so thats 36 for the contested

Your assumption that all handballs are effective is flawed as you can handball it to a guy and he is instantly tackled and thats ineffective but lets assume the worst.

So 14 points for the handballs

So lets be super harsh and give nothing for the kicks

Then the 6 tackles and the 1 contested marks is more like 30 points

then ill give 10 for the goal like you

10 for the goal assists like you

10 for the behind assists like you

you took away 8 for the 2 FA but then add back 12 for the FF

so thats 114 without the HTA

then the guy gets 39 hitouts when his team dominantes the clearances and the match especially in the second half when the game is on the line. Should be 30+ points easy.


GoLions

Quote from: Holz on May 20, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
Quote from: GoLions on May 20, 2018, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 19, 2018, 06:12:27 PM
39 hitouts 17 touches 12 contested, 1 goal, 2 goal assists; 6 tackles 5 clearances, 1 contested mark, 2 intercepts, 8 score assists with 77% didposal effecirncy and his team crushed the opposition and easily won the clearance battle.

112 points is that a joke

But let's humour you for a moment

76% DE from 17 touches, let us assume all the handballs were effective because only spuds miss opponents by hand. 12 effective handball is about 18 points. 1 effective kick gives you 4 points or so. 1 clanger kick gives -4ish, and 2 ineffective for 0-2 points. So about 20 points for the touches. The mark and 6 tackles gets about 25 points. 10 points for the goal. 0 points for the clearances. 10 points for the goal assists, probably another 10 for the behind assists. I don't have his HTA stats. Add maybe an extra 20 for contested possessions, gets him to 95 points. Take away another 8 points for the frees against. 87 all up. 27 points left for HTA which is definitely possible.

Meow says a contested possession is 3 points

so thats 36 for the contested

Your assumption that all handballs are effective is flawed as you can handball it to a guy and he is instantly tackled and thats ineffective but lets assume the worst.

So 14 points for the handballs

So lets be super harsh and give nothing for the kicks

Then the 6 tackles and the 1 contested marks is more like 30 points

then ill give 10 for the goal like you

10 for the goal assists like you

10 for the behind assists like you

you took away 8 for the 2 FA but then add back 12 for the FF

so thats 114 without the HTA

then the guy gets 39 hitouts when his team dominantes the clearances and the match especially in the second half when the game is on the line. Should be 30+ points easy.
Yeah I wasn't sure if a contested handball got the same amount

Tackles are generally 3 points more often than not

FF are counted as CPs, hence why I didn't include them (also counted the contested mark as a CP already)

We also don't know how many hitouts were sharked. What the state of the game was for each stat. Personally, unless he got a lot of HTA, I'd say his score is pretty close to what he deserved.

Bully

I'm stoked with his score, just need him to back it up.

ubeaut

Quote from: Bully on May 20, 2018, 03:23:56 PM
I'm stoked with his score, just need him to back it up.
And therein lies the problem. He was rucking against Keefe mostly.
Decent possession and tackle numbers though plus a goal. Hope he keeps it up but I'm doubtful

Rusty00

Quote from: Rusty00 on May 19, 2018, 09:07:23 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on May 19, 2018, 05:16:47 PM
Must of found this thread and got fired up
I think he saw this thread and is trolling us. Another ton next week and we all think “he’s back” and won’t need to trade him. Then he’ll score 60 in Rd.12, bye Rd.13, then dropped for Rd.14 :-X
It’s happening :-X

North Melbournes Finest

This is the best name to a thread ever.

jbjimmyjb

He's got a BE of 47 this week, so if he tons up again the next week before his bye, it should only cost 160k to upgrade to Grundy, which is irresistible. (460k to 620k)

Holz

Never seen soo much talk about a guy who was priced at 95 and is putting up 88 points a game.

If Grundy wasnt going beserk this would be a non issue.


Ricochet

Quote from: Holz on May 28, 2018, 11:10:46 AM
Never seen soo much talk about a guy who was priced at 95 and is putting up 88 points a game.

If Grundy wasnt going beserk this would be a non issue.
But Grundy is going beserk. So it is an issue

MontyJnr

Quote from: Holz on May 28, 2018, 11:10:46 AM
Never seen soo much talk about a guy who was priced at 95 and is putting up 88 points a game.

If Grundy wasnt going beserk this would be a non issue.

I like North & Goldstein, but I don't understand why you are so hellbent on defending him. He isn't a premium ruck this year and is way off the standard required. Owners have a right to be annoyed.

Holz

Quote from: Ricochet on May 28, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 28, 2018, 11:10:46 AM
Never seen soo much talk about a guy who was priced at 95 and is putting up 88 points a game.

If Grundy wasnt going beserk this would be a non issue.
But Grundy is going beserk. So it is an issue

Yes it is an issue, but its more of a needing Grundy then Goldy being horrible

realistically everyone but Gawn you could say you should trade to Grundy.