Todd Pieceofshytstein.

[ubeaut]

Problem is, stats don't show the impact of them

He might still be getting similar numbers, but every time I've watched him they are touches that don't have any impact

He doesn't take contested marks much any more, and most of his touches now seem to be dinky handballs or kicks that don't have any real impact

Stats wise he might be similar, but I think the impact of those stats is well down and that's a big part of SC scoring too

He has no influence on games, where as he used to have a big influence and that's SC gold

Yeah spot on RD.
When u add it all up - numbers slightly down,possessions less damaging,slightly less hitouts and far less HOTAs it all equals he is a past it SC spud

[GoLions]

Problem is, stats don't show the impact of them

He might still be getting similar numbers, but every time I've watched him they are touches that don't have any impact

He doesn't take contested marks much any more, and most of his touches now seem to be dinky handballs or kicks that don't have any real impact

Stats wise he might be similar, but I think the impact of those stats is well down and that's a big part of SC scoring too

He has no influence on games, where as he used to have a big influence and that's SC gold

Yeah spot on RD.
When u add it all up - numbers slightly down,possessions less damaging,slightly less hitouts and far less HOTAs it all equals he is a past it SC spud

Yeah, he is Past It Entirely, that's for sure

[dylanclements]

Problem is, stats don't show the impact of them

He might still be getting similar numbers, but every time I've watched him they are touches that don't have any impact

He doesn't take contested marks much any more, and most of his touches now seem to be dinky handballs or kicks that don't have any real impact

Stats wise he might be similar, but I think the impact of those stats is well down and that's a big part of SC scoring too

He has no influence on games, where as he used to have a big influence and that's SC gold

Totally agree with this. Goldy was just about my favourite player in 2015 and to a lesser extent 2016. He was killing teams by himself, running oppo rucks into the dirt and going awol in last quarters. The impact he was having on games was massive. These days are gone.

I find it kind of sad - I reckon if he stayed at those heights for three or four years he'd be remembered as an absolute jet. I don't think he'll be remembered much at all, now.

[Adamant]

Plays against Nank this weekend who is much shorter and regularly concedes large hitout numbers. If he can't go big against him then he's stuffed. Have no choice but to hold him now and maybe upgrade during the byes

I think we’re past the point where he’s stuffed seeing as he couldn’t put out a decent score against the Dixon/Westhoff/Howard combo :-\

he has 38 and 40 HO in the last two weeks so he is winning the ruck contest easily, so that must not be the issue.

He must be getting awarded no HTA to advantage if he was just getting 20% of HTA then he would have got 40 points from them alone.

The issue is while he is wining the hit outs quite easily the opponent mids are beating out North's

They lost the clearances 41 to 31 against Sydney and 38 to 32 against port.

So him winning all the HOs isn't that helpful, especially when you lose points if the opponent mids get away with the ball. Which is a joke as you can hit it a 50/50 and if the north guy gets it and breaks away then its a HTA and +5 and if the opponents gets its and breaks away then its -1 for the identical tap.

This spud could be averaging 40 and you would still try to find a way to defend him.

You don't get a hitout-to-advantage/sharked by just hitting it anywhere with the result depending on which team wins the ball in the contest. The hitout actually has to reach an intended teammate for it to be a HTA and a sharked hitout has to be a direct result of the opponent's possession. What you just described is a player winning a hardball-get which is worth 0 extra points for the ruckman.

[Bully]

Todd the plodder, seems his glory days are a distant memory. I was super confident running with him, dunno what has happened but this year is looking like a bigger train wreck than 2017. The one saving grace is he's playing every week, this is the only thing saving him from the guillotine.

[tommy10]

Agree with both Holz’s stats and Rd’s points. He just is not as influential anymore around the grounds whilst the HOTA is not clearly there this year. Doesn’t kick as many goals and shanking it OOTF a few times I can recall in front of goal doesn’t help.

Maybe it’s Scott’s game plan for managing him around the contest in terms of following up, tackling etc. maybe it’s his age, maybe the game is even quicker now and he’s struggling to keep up with the pace...so could be a combination of those imo.

I think that Grundy, Ryder, Nic Nat and Stef are so much more mobile especially Grundy with getting so much more possessions into his game has really taken it to another level.

[Ricochet]

Problem is, stats don't show the impact of them

He might still be getting similar numbers, but every time I've watched him they are touches that don't have any impact

He doesn't take contested marks much any more, and most of his touches now seem to be dinky handballs or kicks that don't have any real impact

Stats wise he might be similar, but I think the impact of those stats is well down and that's a big part of SC scoring too

He has no influence on games, where as he used to have a big influence and that's SC gold

Yeah spot on RD.
When u add it all up - numbers slightly down,possessions less damaging,slightly less hitouts and far less HOTAs it all equals he is a past it SC spud

Yeah, he is Past It Entirely, that's for sure

;D

[Adamant]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-16/analysis-norths-ruck-role-challenge

Pie.

[Big Mac]

Keefe - 10 hitouts
Goldstein - 3 hitouts

[Bully]

Keefe - 10 hitouts
Goldstein - 3 hitouts

have to hold for 1 more week & then Ryder comes in, I reckon Goldy will be joining the dole queue next year.

[jfitty]

I just can't believe how Goldy continually gets beaten by these part time ruckmen.

Forget Supercoach, he should be giving our mids first hands on the ball in games like this. So frustrating.

[RaisyDaisy]

Keefe - 10 hitouts
Goldstein - 3 hitouts

Goldy 44 SC
Keeffe 15 SC

Lobb 23 SC

Half time, would be stoked if Goldy could get to anything above 80 from here

How said is that, yet it's true

[shaker]

Keefe - 10 hitouts
Goldstein - 3 hitouts

Goldy 44 SC
Keeffe 15 SC

Lobb 23 SC

Half time, would be stoked if Goldy could get to anything above 80 from here

How said is that, yet it's true

Maybe that's his problem in earlier games , he needs to be taken out of the ruck and used as a inside mid  ;D

[jfitty]

Has Goldstein sprung to life? Surely not...

[Chrispy75]

Keefe - 10 hitouts
Goldstein - 3 hitouts

Goldy 44 SC
Keeffe 15 SC

Lobb 23 SC

Half time, would be stoked if Goldy could get to anything above 80 from here

How said is that, yet it's true

Couple of scoring assists early in the third.  He might get to 100 today?

Won't stop me getting Ryder in Round 11.