Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden

Started by waldorfs wizards, April 11, 2018, 09:36:57 AM

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Ricochet

Quote from: PowerBug on April 11, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
Smith is definitely not injured, he was dropped for the Hawks game. If they roll without Stanley again this week I'll pick the Rat because the man playing 1R is more likely to score better, thus making more cash.
Hadn't really considered him tbh, but will have to look at him over Crowden/Henry

waldorfs wizards

Quote from: PowerBug on April 11, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
Smith is definitely not injured, he was dropped for the Hawks game. If they roll without Stanley again this week I'll pick the Rat because the man playing 1R is more likely to score better, thus making more cash.

Well that changes my thinking then! If hes getting a gig over them now thats a massive plus!

eaglesman

I really rate the rat! I duno how he can be overlooked to be honest.

batt

Sav looks the best of the 3 by eye.... but by the numbers he doesn't compare, particularly as a forward.  Risking him pumping out a 30 on field isn't worth it IMO.

I think in terms of scoring it goes:

Henry > Crowden > Sav

but in terms of JS it probably goes:

Henry < Crowden < Sav

Mantis

Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

ubeaut

Quote from: batt on April 11, 2018, 01:42:42 PM
Sav looks the best of the 3 by eye.... but by the numbers he doesn't compare, particularly as a forward.  Risking him pumping out a 30 on field isn't worth it IMO.

I think in terms of scoring it goes:

Henry > Crowden > Sav

but in terms of JS it probably goes:

Henry < Crowden < Sav
Is Ratugoleas JS that good tho?
One bad game and Smith could come straight back in? Or Crameri/Stanley?
Not really sure about any of those 3 tbh.


Bully

Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.

ubeaut

Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.

batt

Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:42:54 PM
Is Ratugoleas JS that good tho?
One bad game and Smith could come straight back in? Or Crameri/Stanley?
Not really sure about any of those 3 tbh.
Cats fans really like him, and he structurally fits a whole lot better with their forwards.  He doesn't have the tank to play as a ruck and I don't think Scott will use him that way because of it.  As a leading tall, pinch hitting ruck is what most Cats fans seem to view as his role.  That's why his scoring potential is relatively low.

My confidence in his JS is based on how much Cats fans love him and the way he plays.

shaker

Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week

Mantis

Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.

Yeah I’m with you, I think his scoring alone will make him a good cash cow and if can string even a few games together can make some quick cash. If Higgins scores well this week and is named for a game 3 I think it will force ppl to have to trade for him. There is the risk he gets dropped after 2 games but tigers will play him this year and I would use him as a loophole option

Nige

Quote from: shaker on April 11, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week
Sam Lloyd wasn't bad, but he's unlucky one to make way for Caddy I would say. Unless they make a statement and drop Townsend, but I don't think that will happen because he plays that defensive forward role and doesn't need to get a heap of the ball in his role.

Dion for Conca might be the way Prestia gets in.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: shaker on April 11, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week

For someone like Higgins, I kind of look at how guys like Butler etc broke into the side

If you play well enough each, you hold your spot

If Higgins plays well this week, then he should hold his spot, even with Caddy and Prestia returning

Just looking at last weeks team, guys like Short and Lloyd would be just as much a chance to get dropped

It will come down to how well Higgins plays

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2018, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on April 11, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week

For someone like Higgins, I kind of look at how guys like Butler etc broke into the side

If you play well enough each, you hold your spot

If Higgins plays well this week, then he should hold his spot, even with Caddy and Prestia returning

Just looking at last weeks team, guys like Short and Lloyd would be just as much a chance to get dropped

It will come down to how well Higgins plays

Higgins is playing the small forward role vacated by Rioli, Bolton got first dibs but didn't impact the game to a sufficient level. Hardwick will not alter the premiership template, the only threat to Higgins is another small forward forcing him out. I honestly can't see that happening over the next few weeks.

Bully

Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.

Yeah I’m with you, I think his scoring alone will make him a good cash cow and if can string even a few games together can make some quick cash. If Higgins scores well this week and is named for a game 3 I think it will force ppl to have to trade for him. There is the risk he gets dropped after 2 games but tigers will play him this year and I would use him as a loophole option

The flipside to that is if he plays he can take the E most weeks as Richmond play a lot of early games. Someone like Langdon can then be used to loop.