Hibberd

Started by walloo44, March 31, 2018, 11:03:46 PM

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MontyJnr

Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 01, 2018, 09:18:56 PM
I don't know why everybody is jumping onto a Hibberd->Shaw deal so quickly.

I've watched both Blues/Giants games, and Simpson is playing a much more active role in his team structure than Heater, and hence more likely for Heater to throw a stinker. I started with Heater, but am personally worried about how long he can keep up this form without playing overly well.

Both Simmo & Heater are likely Top 6 defenders, but the cash gained from the Heater downgrade is too good to resist.

WhatsSC???

With Jayden Hunt being dropped, do you think Hibberd will score more??

but long term is it better to bring in Simpson or hold Hibberd and ride the rollercoaster!

RaisyDaisy

I'm torn with what to do with this bloke, but my gut says trade

Not because I don't think he can go 90+ and be a keeper because you'd be silly to come to that conclusion off two games, but because the cash I save by trading him now can be used to really improve my overall side

I'll bring him back in if he warrants it, but I'm just treating this like a correctional trade, and not as much as trading out a prem, if that makes sense

I've come to the conclusion that I probably should have started with a slightly different team structure, and with the addition of Bonner I can drop Hibberd as we have good def rookies and I can get my other lines right

Once he shows that he is back to getting 25+ touches a game and 90+ he can come back in, but until then he is out for me and I'll be using the funds to better my team overall

jfitty

I've been pondering it way too much as well RD!

I think you're right, with Bonner and 3 defensive rookies scoring decently you can definitely get away with dropping him and picking up a premium elsewhere. This is what I'm leaning towards doing.

The frustrating part is his price. At 550k you don't want doubts, you want good scores. Guys around that price range include Laird, Parker, Buddy, Heppell, Wines, Cripps who are all averaging 100+, and so they should be for that price.

The thing for me is working out what I would be happy with as a score this week. If he goes 110+, all is almost forgiven, but anything below about 85 and you'd be looking at a huge price drop, and potentially a guy you're stuck with for a while. Not sure I want to take that risk just to have him go 70 again.

I really want to use his price tag and some money in the bank to bring in Oliver, it's just hard trading premos!

Holz

id give him 1 more week.

1. As a north fan i know all too well that defenders in particular HBFers can have big days against us.

2. Jayden Hunt is out and that could help him also.

3. If he pumps out another 70 then he drops about 40k which isnt devastating and you can make alot more cash bringing in other guys this week.

4. If he fails you also get to see Ed Richards for another week and Coeffield for the first time. If he fails could always go down to 1 of these guys and use alot of cash elsewhere.



Huttabito

Michael Hibberd: "With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it's probably my biggest strength." #AFLDeesNorth

Nige

Quote from: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 01:09:20 PM
Michael Hibberd: "With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it's probably my biggest strength." #AFLDeesNorth
Bingo.

One of the reasons I decided to keep him.

_wato

You’d be mad to drop this week imo

jfitty

Quote from: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 01:09:20 PM
Michael Hibberd: "With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it's probably my biggest strength." #AFLDeesNorth

Hmm okay that's brought back a little bit of faith. It makes more sense that Tom McDonald being out has forced him to play third tall, rather than old men like Vince and Lewis taking points.

Might survive this week after all.

Gigantor

Dammit I was set to trade him now I'm not sure haha

jfitty

I mean to be fair last season he did score two 60's and a 50, maybe we've just seen his basement scores for the season?

Trying to figure out what to do.. :P

Huttabito

Quote from: jfitty on April 06, 2018, 01:41:49 PM
I mean to be fair last season he did score two 60's and a 50, maybe we've just seen his basement scores for the season?

Trying to figure out what to do.. :P
The only scenario I would be mad about is if Hibberd scores 120 and Simpson an 80. Both go 80 or 120, I'm not too fussed (would prefer both go 80 tbh, that way I know I'm happy I jumped off before the price drop and have more faith in Simpson from here on out). If I trade, 3 of 4 possible scenarios are a "win" for me - which makes the trade still seem tempting.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 01:09:20 PM
Michael Hibberd: "With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it's probably my biggest strength." #AFLDeesNorth

Like I said above, I think he will still be a keeper and should be able to hit 90+, but I think I am still going to trade him for the reasons I mentioned, although I'll admit I wish I didn't hear him say that  ;D

Brikett

Not taking kickouts anymore, not floating across half back as the spare taking intercept marks because that's Lever's job.

He may still go 90+ but I'd have more confidence in someone like Simpson or Shaw and you can bank a bit of cash in the process.

"Don't trade out your underperforming premiums" they'll say.

I disagree, sticking with an underperforming premo is just as risky as trading them out. (See Hanners, Shaw etc)

Majority of us here have got the rookies pretty well.

I always budget for two correctional trades in round two anyway, so the loss of a trade here doesn't bother me.


tommy10

Yep he’s gone for me as it’s a correctional trade to improve my side. Shaw provides plenty of cash to go Naughton to Bonner and still have a little left over.

It could be mind games, but if his role does change and be back to where it was last year, and if he starts to string of a couple of decent games together, then I can always get him back for a rookie who’s maxed. So it’s a wait and see and need to be convinced before bringing him back.
Im sure people would have expected for Lever to take a lot of their intercept marks and perhaps Hibberd can still take a couple, but what we didn’t expect from him is why he isn’t taking the kick ins etc. which has hurt his scoring and really made the decision for me now to part with him.