Hibberd

[iZander]

losing $$$ doesont matter if hes a keeper, i think that trade could be more valuable down the track

[justaverage]

Would you be trading him if you only had 5 trades?

Its a long season.... just saying ::)

[frenzy]

Yet again another quality buy stock in a couple of weeks  8)

[ubeaut]

ppl trading him are chasing points they can't get

That's what people said about Shaw last year. He just never came good.
Hibberd is taking far less kick ins, Lever is taking the intercepts more now.
So it's a role change, small one but significant for SC.
I would argue it's chasing FUTURE points.

[petefisker]

Has anyone got stats as to why Hibberd's had the drop off?
No kick outs? Efficiency? Lock down role change? I need some info over the 2 games if i'm gona make the move to Shaw/Sicily (pending tomorrow for Sicily).

[RaisyDaisy]

Has anyone got stats as to why Hibberd's had the drop off?
No kick outs? Efficiency? Lock down role change? I need some info over the 2 games if i'm gona make the move to Shaw/Sicily (pending tomorrow for Sicily).

Read the previous posts lol

Not taking much kick ins now, and not being used as much as "the man" down back

Agree with ubeaut regarding the future points

[enzedder]

ppl trading him are chasing points they can't get

That's what people said about Shaw last year. He just never came good.
Hibberd is taking far less kick ins, Lever is taking the intercepts more now.
So it's a role change, small one but significant for SC.
I would argue it's chasing FUTURE points.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

[jfitty]

I've had some time to cool off and not quite ready to 'rage trade' Hibberd just yet.

Still had 20 touches in both games, and like I mentioned earlier in here, he was on 70 at 3QT, just wasn't amongst it in the last quarter.

Might see if any rookies need to go, if not, I'll look to swap him out. Still feel like he'll be top 10 (it's only round 2), but the Shaw from last year comparison really hits home!

[Woppa15]

If I traded him it would be for either Simmo or Shaw. Simmo seems to be the man at Carlton this year and Shaw seems to be back to his best and cheap!

However, I had the same situation with Hanners last year. Traded him early due to a few poor games and it bit me on the arse.

[SilverLion]

If I traded him it would be for either Simmo or Shaw. Simmo seems to be the man at Carlton this year and Shaw seems to be back to his best and cheap!

However, I had the same situation with Hanners last year. Traded him early due to a few poor games and it bit me on the arse.

I had Hanners last year, traded him after Rd. 2 to Higgins via DPP. Didn't regret it in the slightest.

[quinny88]

Weather Hibbo stays or goes largely depends on what happens in today and tomorrow's games.
I have Venables, Ryan, Barry, Naughton all on the chopping block and I'm eying off English, Fogarty and Bonner so the performances of those players will be the ultimate factor

[RoughRed]

For me the decision on Hibberd will depend on M crouch outlook
If hammy =2 weeks I will hold both
If more than two weeks
Hibberd =>Shaw
Crouch => Danger/Dusty
All my rooks to date are playing and performing to expectations so no changes there

[Mat0369]

One thing to look at with Hibberd is his previous scoring history. Last year was one out of the box, it was always going to be hard to replicate this year. Looking at stats, the kick to handball ratio is way down compared to his 90+ seasons. It's at 1.2 which is tied with his year at the Dons where he averaged low 80's. He needs to get that up to a 1.5 to average 90ish.

They don't seem to be getting a big contribution from any of their defenders at the moment FF wise. It looks like it's a fairly even spread and everyone is scoring quite poorly. I probably wouldn't be trading him yet, but it's a matter of bleeding cash which could be the issue. Simmo, Laird, Lloyd and a fit Yeo are about the only defenders I trust to be true premiums. I think the rest will be a bit of a crapshoot so you might be better waiting until round 5 before making a call. Maybe there is a way you can help turn a mid rookie into Danger at that point.

[Nige]

This is one I'm thinking about quite hard.

I didn't have Hibberd originally but then got encouraged to get him but was never overly sold. Figured I'd be paying the price for a reason. No doubt that he can score in the right role but doesn't appear to be doing it at the moment.

Simmo vs Heater is a tough call. Got them both in a draft team so I've been able to monitor with intent and it's hard to split them. I think I'll go Heater simply to pocket the cash because that's the only real reason I can see that separates the two.

[Torpedo10]

I don't know why everybody is jumping onto a Hibberd->Shaw deal so quickly.

I've watched both Blues/Giants games, and Simpson is playing a much more active role in his team structure than Heater, and hence more likely for Heater to throw a stinker. I started with Heater, but am personally worried about how long he can keep up this form without playing overly well.