Round 2 trades

Started by Sabretooth Tigers, March 26, 2018, 04:06:04 AM

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GCSkiwi

Quote from: tommy10 on March 29, 2018, 12:03:46 AM
I know the golden rule after round 1 is do not trade unless it’s LTI but I’m thinking ahead...

Is it worth grabbing English as F8 at the expense of Ryan as a correctional trade? Have Langdon as my other FWD on bench. How is Ryan’s JS? Even if he’s named tomorrow how do we know that will last till round 3 or beyond? Don’t want another Pickett.. On the other hand, English looks pretty good to me and I think should be safe if he’s playing like he is.

Then, after round 2, get Bonner if he kills it again or scores relatively well. Problem is I only have $40k so Naughton to him without even doing the English trade isn’t enough. That’s where Brayshaw comes in...if it’s another average game, Fogarty comes in and the cash can be used to get Bonner for Naughton.

P.s the English trade is just a correction trade so it’s more of a cash generation trade, has DPP and make cash quicker hence upgrade to a premo faster.

Thoughts?

I've found myself in this situation many times before, where round 1 identifies 3+ players you don't have that you might want to get in. So you look at making a move round 1 to get one of them to free up getting the other two next week.

Things I keep in mind: a great score in round 1 is only in the 3 game average for one price rise. So you have no measure of how well they can back that up. Fogarty got 82 this week, if he backs it up with a 19 then the chatter stops pretty quickly. English is similar, perhaps with the advantage that he's one of few potential options for cheap ruck cover. I wish I'd been more onto it before rd1 and put him in R3.

Bonner stands to make the least by virtue of starting at a higher price. But if he scores around 120 again that might change.

In your position, I would not be making any changes, another round of data might show you that you actually only want 2 of the 3, and you have no way of knowing which are the "right" 2 now. One might not be named round 3, who knows? If it eventuates that you do want all 3, then you make a decision based on projected points and price changes, and cop a small loss...

With that said, as a Libba/Ryder owner, I'm bringing in English for Ryder if he's named, because I don't really like any of the other prem options for various reasons, so if I'm going to gamble I'll make it small stakes!

jvalles69

Quote from: GCSkiwi on March 29, 2018, 09:57:50 AM
Quote from: tommy10 on March 29, 2018, 12:03:46 AM
I know the golden rule after round 1 is do not trade unless it’s LTI but I’m thinking ahead...

Is it worth grabbing English as F8 at the expense of Ryan as a correctional trade? Have Langdon as my other FWD on bench. How is Ryan’s JS? Even if he’s named tomorrow how do we know that will last till round 3 or beyond? Don’t want another Pickett.. On the other hand, English looks pretty good to me and I think should be safe if he’s playing like he is.

Then, after round 2, get Bonner if he kills it again or scores relatively well. Problem is I only have $40k so Naughton to him without even doing the English trade isn’t enough. That’s where Brayshaw comes in...if it’s another average game, Fogarty comes in and the cash can be used to get Bonner for Naughton.

P.s the English trade is just a correction trade so it’s more of a cash generation trade, has DPP and make cash quicker hence upgrade to a premo faster.

Thoughts?

I've found myself in this situation many times before, where round 1 identifies 3+ players you don't have that you might want to get in. So you look at making a move round 1 to get one of them to free up getting the other two next week.

Things I keep in mind: a great score in round 1 is only in the 3 game average for one price rise. So you have no measure of how well they can back that up. Fogarty got 82 this week, if he backs it up with a 19 then the chatter stops pretty quickly. English is similar, perhaps with the advantage that he's one of few potential options for cheap ruck cover. I wish I'd been more onto it before rd1 and put him in R3.

Bonner stands to make the least by virtue of starting at a higher price. But if he scores around 120 again that might change.

In your position, I would not be making any changes, another round of data might show you that you actually only want 2 of the 3, and you have no way of knowing which are the "right" 2 now. One might not be named round 3, who knows? If it eventuates that you do want all 3, then you make a decision based on projected points and price changes, and cop a small loss...

With that said, as a Libba/Ryder owner, I'm bringing in English for Ryder if he's named, because I don't really like any of the other prem options for various reasons, so if I'm going to gamble I'll make it small stakes!

Will burn 2 trades if English doesn't pay off as R2, which doesn't feel like small stakes to me.

Menzel Washington

Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...

SilverLion

Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...
Hurley, Simpson, Savage, Lloyd are all good options.

ubeaut

Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...
If you're looking for a cash grab to get Danger or start a war chest I'd consider McGrath. Might not quite match the 3 u mentioned but then again he might. Looked the goods vs Crows. 110k saved and should go 90+ and be D6 end of season.

Menzel Washington

Quote from: ubeaut on March 29, 2018, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...
If you're looking for a cash grab to get Danger or start a war chest I'd consider McGrath. Might not quite match the 3 u mentioned but then again he might. Looked the goods vs Crows. 110k saved and should go 90+ and be D6 end of season.
Don't think that might be expecting a bit much in just his second year?
Last year he only went above 90 three times (101, 97, 90), and below 70 ten times. Yeah he looked good, and should improve, but to say he should go 90+ may be a stretch...

SilverLion

Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 01:35:58 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 29, 2018, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...
If you're looking for a cash grab to get Danger or start a war chest I'd consider McGrath. Might not quite match the 3 u mentioned but then again he might. Looked the goods vs Crows. 110k saved and should go 90+ and be D6 end of season.
Don't think that might be expecting a bit much in just his second year?
Last year he only went above 90 three times (101, 97, 90), and below 70 ten times. Yeah he looked good, and should improve, but to say he should go 90+ may be a stretch...
Oliver ;)

Ricochet

Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...
I'd go Simpson mate. They'll look to use him majority of the time coming out of defence and he'll take a hell of a lot of kick ins (and kick to himself). Plus he's a proven performer and super durable.

Menzel Washington

Quote from: SilverLion on March 29, 2018, 01:40:48 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 01:35:58 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 29, 2018, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...
If you're looking for a cash grab to get Danger or start a war chest I'd consider McGrath. Might not quite match the 3 u mentioned but then again he might. Looked the goods vs Crows. 110k saved and should go 90+ and be D6 end of season.
Don't think that might be expecting a bit much in just his second year?
Last year he only went above 90 three times (101, 97, 90), and below 70 ten times. Yeah he looked good, and should improve, but to say he should go 90+ may be a stretch...
Oliver ;)
More an anomaly than the norm wouldn't you say

ubeaut

Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 01:35:58 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 29, 2018, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...
If you're looking for a cash grab to get Danger or start a war chest I'd consider McGrath. Might not quite match the 3 u mentioned but then again he might. Looked the goods vs Crows. 110k saved and should go 90+ and be D6 end of season.
Don't think that might be expecting a bit much in just his second year?
Last year he only went above 90 three times (101, 97, 90), and below 70 ten times. Yeah he looked good, and should improve, but to say he should go 90+ may be a stretch...
He played backline all last year often in non SC friendly roles having a lock down job. First game as a mid he is back where he belongs having played mid as a junior and went 100+.
If u don't think he can go 90+ fine get Simpson as he has reclaimed the main half back distributor role.
Still think McGrath can give a similar output for 110k less tho.

longy334


Bully


AaronKirk

Quote from: ubeaut on March 29, 2018, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 01:35:58 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 29, 2018, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...
If you're looking for a cash grab to get Danger or start a war chest I'd consider McGrath. Might not quite match the 3 u mentioned but then again he might. Looked the goods vs Crows. 110k saved and should go 90+ and be D6 end of season.
Don't think that might be expecting a bit much in just his second year?
Last year he only went above 90 three times (101, 97, 90), and below 70 ten times. Yeah he looked good, and should improve, but to say he should go 90+ may be a stretch...
He played backline all last year often in non SC friendly roles having a lock down job. First game as a mid he is back where he belongs having played mid as a junior and went 100+.
If u don't think he can go 90+ fine get Simpson as he has reclaimed the main half back distributor role.
Still think McGrath can give a similar output for 110k less tho.

McGrath mainly played in the midfield last week and will play there this year. If he improves his Kick to handball ratio from round 1 he should increase in scoring output. Likely to be in my side at some stage of the year.

Bully

Quote from: AaronKirk on March 29, 2018, 03:28:48 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 29, 2018, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 01:35:58 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 29, 2018, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...
If you're looking for a cash grab to get Danger or start a war chest I'd consider McGrath. Might not quite match the 3 u mentioned but then again he might. Looked the goods vs Crows. 110k saved and should go 90+ and be D6 end of season.
Don't think that might be expecting a bit much in just his second year?
Last year he only went above 90 three times (101, 97, 90), and below 70 ten times. Yeah he looked good, and should improve, but to say he should go 90+ may be a stretch...
He played backline all last year often in non SC friendly roles having a lock down job. First game as a mid he is back where he belongs having played mid as a junior and went 100+.
If u don't think he can go 90+ fine get Simpson as he has reclaimed the main half back distributor role.
Still think McGrath can give a similar output for 110k less tho.

McGrath mainly played in the midfield last week and will play there this year. If he improves his Kick to handball ratio from round 1 he should increase in scoring output. Likely to be in my side at some stage of the year.

Oliver made the jump from 70 to 110, McGrath only needs to hit 90 and he's done his job. Very achievable. One also can't forget that this kid is an athletic freak.

Menzel Washington

Quote from: Bully on March 29, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on March 29, 2018, 03:28:48 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 29, 2018, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 01:35:58 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 29, 2018, 12:23:29 PM
Quote from: Menzel Washington on March 29, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
Only trade I need to do is Rich out. Wanted to take a risk with him thinking he would score well, but then injured. I've got Laird already, and can afford anyone. Who do you all suggest? Simpson, Lloyd, Shaw? Totally stumped right now...
If you're looking for a cash grab to get Danger or start a war chest I'd consider McGrath. Might not quite match the 3 u mentioned but then again he might. Looked the goods vs Crows. 110k saved and should go 90+ and be D6 end of season.
Don't think that might be expecting a bit much in just his second year?
Last year he only went above 90 three times (101, 97, 90), and below 70 ten times. Yeah he looked good, and should improve, but to say he should go 90+ may be a stretch...
He played backline all last year often in non SC friendly roles having a lock down job. First game as a mid he is back where he belongs having played mid as a junior and went 100+.
If u don't think he can go 90+ fine get Simpson as he has reclaimed the main half back distributor role.
Still think McGrath can give a similar output for 110k less tho.

McGrath mainly played in the midfield last week and will play there this year. If he improves his Kick to handball ratio from round 1 he should increase in scoring output. Likely to be in my side at some stage of the year.

Oliver made the jump from 70 to 110, McGrath only needs to hit 90 and he's done his job. Very achievable. One also can't forget that this kid is an athletic freak.
Ah ok cheers guys. Didn't realise he was playing more mid this year than down back. Definitely food for thought...