Mid Price Mids

Started by Money Shot, March 05, 2018, 09:43:20 AM

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PowerBug

Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on March 17, 2018, 01:11:45 AM
Quote from: dmac07 on March 16, 2018, 10:20:50 PM
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No mid pricers in the midfield ever, wouldn't touch any of them.
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Cept Conigs. Will be a keeper and average 105-110. Stay away from him  :P

Or he averages 102-103, makes less than 100k and is 5-10 points short of the real keepers  ::)

;D

Or in a perfect world he scores well until you finish your team and he becomes M9

;)
In a perfect world the first guy quotes properly so that all future posts don’t look weird
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_wato

Quote from: ubeaut on March 17, 2018, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2018, 03:52:33 AM
If he averages 102-103 I'll take that in a heartbeat. He's priced much cheaper and will be making money while scoring nicely and can be the last upgrade you make
Exactly. 450k for 103 is a win in any language,any position. Priced at 80. He makes 100k and is a stepping stone/M9.
I'm unsure he'll get there with Kelly,Whitfield,Ward,Sheil all sharing the points and capable of 100 - 110. There is usually no more than 3 mids in a top team going 100+ so someone has to miss out. This is why I haven't got him atm feel he might go high 90s which is not quite worth it as a mid.

Well Kelly is your 110+ super premium but probably maxes at 115, Shiel is good for 95-100 (due to lower TOG), Ward will be good for a 100-105 average (most likely lower end), Whitfield will be good for 90-100 so there is easily room for Conigs to go 105-110. He'll play most time on ball out of all those guys so the points will be available.

GoLions

Quote from: _wato on March 17, 2018, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 17, 2018, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2018, 03:52:33 AM
If he averages 102-103 I'll take that in a heartbeat. He's priced much cheaper and will be making money while scoring nicely and can be the last upgrade you make
Exactly. 450k for 103 is a win in any language,any position. Priced at 80. He makes 100k and is a stepping stone/M9.
I'm unsure he'll get there with Kelly,Whitfield,Ward,Sheil all sharing the points and capable of 100 - 110. There is usually no more than 3 mids in a top team going 100+ so someone has to miss out. This is why I haven't got him atm feel he might go high 90s which is not quite worth it as a mid.

Well Kelly is your 110+ super premium but probably maxes at 115, Shiel is good for 95-100 (due to lower TOG), Ward will be good for a 100-105 average (most likely lower end), Whitfield will be good for 90-100 so there is easily room for Conigs to go 105-110. He'll play most time on ball out of all those guys so the points will be available.
Ward and Shiel will outscore Conigs.

TomK

Quote from: GoLions on March 17, 2018, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: _wato on March 17, 2018, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 17, 2018, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2018, 03:52:33 AM
If he averages 102-103 I'll take that in a heartbeat. He's priced much cheaper and will be making money while scoring nicely and can be the last upgrade you make
Exactly. 450k for 103 is a win in any language,any position. Priced at 80. He makes 100k and is a stepping stone/M9.
I'm unsure he'll get there with Kelly,Whitfield,Ward,Sheil all sharing the points and capable of 100 - 110. There is usually no more than 3 mids in a top team going 100+ so someone has to miss out. This is why I haven't got him atm feel he might go high 90s which is not quite worth it as a mid.

Well Kelly is your 110+ super premium but probably maxes at 115, Shiel is good for 95-100 (due to lower TOG), Ward will be good for a 100-105 average (most likely lower end), Whitfield will be good for 90-100 so there is easily room for Conigs to go 105-110. He'll play most time on ball out of all those guys so the points will be available.
Ward and Shiel will outscore Conigs.

tommy10

Quote from: PowerBug on March 17, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on March 17, 2018, 01:11:45 AM
Quote from: dmac07 on March 16, 2018, 10:20:50 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on March 16, 2018, 10:18:01 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on March 16, 2018, 09:24:48 PM
No mid pricers in the midfield ever, wouldn't touch any of them.
[/quot
Cept Conigs. Will be a keeper and average 105-110. Stay away from him  :P

Or he averages 102-103, makes less than 100k and is 5-10 points short of the real keepers  ::)

;D

Or in a perfect world he scores well until you finish your team and he becomes M9

;)
In a perfect world the first guy quotes properly so that all future posts don’t look weird
My bad  :P

tommy10

Quote from: GoLions on March 17, 2018, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: _wato on March 17, 2018, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 17, 2018, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2018, 03:52:33 AM
If he averages 102-103 I'll take that in a heartbeat. He's priced much cheaper and will be making money while scoring nicely and can be the last upgrade you make
Exactly. 450k for 103 is a win in any language,any position. Priced at 80. He makes 100k and is a stepping stone/M9.
I'm unsure he'll get there with Kelly,Whitfield,Ward,Sheil all sharing the points and capable of 100 - 110. There is usually no more than 3 mids in a top team going 100+ so someone has to miss out. This is why I haven't got him atm feel he might go high 90s which is not quite worth it as a mid.

Well Kelly is your 110+ super premium but probably maxes at 115, Shiel is good for 95-100 (due to lower TOG), Ward will be good for a 100-105 average (most likely lower end), Whitfield will be good for 90-100 so there is easily room for Conigs to go 105-110. He'll play most time on ball out of all those guys so the points will be available.
Ward and Shiel will outscore Conigs.
Shiel hasn’t averaged over 103, whereas Ward has had high avg of 112 but even though he’s still 27 I’m not sure he can get to that form. Conigs averaged almost 106 in 2016 when his was only 22, so with a full preseason, you would think 105 would be gettable and perhaps take his game to another level to 110.

quinny88

The GWS mids are the hardest to pick. Only have Conigs due to price but wouldn't go near the others until I see who is killing it. Have always thought Shiel would become a super premo but it just hasn't happened so far despite him being an elite player

hawkers65

Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
The GWS mids are the hardest to pick. Only have Conigs due to price but wouldn't go near the others until I see who is killing it. Have always thought Shiel would become a super premo but it just hasn't happened so far despite him being an elite player

Exaclty whats worrying me, i really want Kelly but you just never know if hes the #1 mid or if theres enough points going around. Hes had his only uber prem season without Coniglio so he may jus drop back a few points

Bully

Quote from: hawkers65 on March 17, 2018, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
The GWS mids are the hardest to pick. Only have Conigs due to price but wouldn't go near the others until I see who is killing it. Have always thought Shiel would become a super premo but it just hasn't happened so far despite him being an elite player

Exaclty whats worrying me, i really want Kelly but you just never know if hes the #1 mid or if theres enough points going around. Hes had his only uber prem season without Coniglio so he may jus drop back a few points

Scored a ton in every match with Cogs in the side, don't think it makes any difference whatsoever.

hawkers65

Quote from: Bully on March 17, 2018, 05:30:25 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 17, 2018, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
The GWS mids are the hardest to pick. Only have Conigs due to price but wouldn't go near the others until I see who is killing it. Have always thought Shiel would become a super premo but it just hasn't happened so far despite him being an elite player

Exaclty whats worrying me, i really want Kelly but you just never know if hes the #1 mid or if theres enough points going around. Hes had his only uber prem season without Coniglio so he may jus drop back a few points

Scored a ton in every match with Cogs in the side, don't think it makes any difference whatsoever.

Very small sample size and Coniglio certainly wasn’t averaging 105 in that time anyway

Bully

Quote from: hawkers65 on March 17, 2018, 05:52:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 17, 2018, 05:30:25 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 17, 2018, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
The GWS mids are the hardest to pick. Only have Conigs due to price but wouldn't go near the others until I see who is killing it. Have always thought Shiel would become a super premo but it just hasn't happened so far despite him being an elite player

Exaclty whats worrying me, i really want Kelly but you just never know if hes the #1 mid or if theres enough points going around. Hes had his only uber prem season without Coniglio so he may jus drop back a few points

Scored a ton in every match with Cogs in the side, don't think it makes any difference whatsoever.

Very small sample size and Coniglio certainly wasn’t averaging 105 in that time anyway

Kelly has been on an upward trajectory every year, I don't even think he's even reached his best. Does everything needed to score well - tackles, metres gained, long kicks & scoreboard impact. He's also supremely fit so can shake tags with ease.

hawkers65

Quote from: Bully on March 17, 2018, 06:01:00 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 17, 2018, 05:52:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 17, 2018, 05:30:25 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 17, 2018, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 17, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
The GWS mids are the hardest to pick. Only have Conigs due to price but wouldn't go near the others until I see who is killing it. Have always thought Shiel would become a super premo but it just hasn't happened so far despite him being an elite player

Exaclty whats worrying me, i really want Kelly but you just never know if hes the #1 mid or if theres enough points going around. Hes had his only uber prem season without Coniglio so he may jus drop back a few points

Scored a ton in every match with Cogs in the side, don't think it makes any difference whatsoever.

Very small sample size and Coniglio certainly wasn’t averaging 105 in that time anyway

Kelly has been on an upward trajectory every year, I don't even think he's even reached his best. Does everything needed to score well - tackles, metres gained, long kicks & scoreboard impact. He's also supremely fit so can shake tags with ease.

100% kids a freak, and geniune next best player in the league. But talking this year alone I’ll if he improves his SC output yet

RaisyDaisy

I'm still undecided on what I want to do with Conigs and Libba

No doubt they will average more than they're currently priced, but for 450k you need to pick them to become keepers. You don't start these types and then upgrade them once they've made 100k - it just doesn't happen, and despite what you might want to believe you don't trade them when they are cruising along averaging 100-105 either - issues arise elsewhere and next thing you know they are your M7/M8

885k for the two, and I am just deciding whether it might actually be better to start a prem and rookie

Dusty + Brodie + 40k vs Conigs + Libba

Neale/Crouch/whoever + Brodie + 100k vs Conigs + Libba

Conigs vs Libba might outscore Super prem + rookie in the early stages, but then later when you upgrade the rookie to another super prem it reverses

Tough decision, but I'm starting to think that long term Super prem + rookie might actually be the better option


Mongoose528

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 18, 2018, 01:19:29 PM
I'm still undecided on what I want to do with Conigs and Libba

No doubt they will average more than they're currently priced, but for 450k you need to pick them to become keepers. You don't start these types and then upgrade them once they've made 100k - it just doesn't happen, and despite what you might want to believe you don't trade them when they are cruising along averaging 100-105 either - issues arise elsewhere and next thing you know they are your M7/M8

885k for the two, and I am just deciding whether it might actually be better to start a prem and rookie

Dusty + Brodie + 40k vs Conigs + Libba

Neale/Crouch/whoever + Brodie + 100k vs Conigs + Libba

Conigs vs Libba might outscore Super prem + rookie in the early stages, but then later when you upgrade the rookie to another super prem it reverses

Tough decision, but I'm starting to think that long term Super prem + rookie might actually be the better option

Alternatively, you could go Armitage + Premo over Conigs + Libba.

meow meow

There's really no need to get mid pricers in the mids with a plethora of defensive rookies and some solid mid rookies like Brayshaw, Brodie and Kelly who are good enough to start on field.