Liberatore

[LaHug]

What looked like mid price madness early is kind of a flop right now lol as usual.

Still the right move if started the right mid pricers and traded Libba at the right time I reckon.

Williams and Smith looking like keepers down back. Rocky still better than a lot of premiums (particularly because the 36 was because of injury) and may well be a keeper going forward. Libba could've been traded last week for $188k profit or this week for $161k with much better scoring on field than you'd likely have been able to get otherwise. Sheed and Crouch flopped. Greene flopped the worst. But anyone that started with Williams, Smith, Rocky, Libba is ahead of the pack.

For me, I started Williams, Smith, Libba, Crouch, Greene. Traded Libba to Fyfe this week (one week later than I should have in hindsight). That's three good ones out of five. My season would probably be a lot worse if I hadn't started those guys because my "premiums" are what's really killing me.

[Bully]

What looked like mid price madness early is kind of a flop right now lol as usual.

Still the right move if started the right mid pricers and traded Libba at the right time I reckon.

Williams and Smith looking like keepers down back. Rocky still better than a lot of premiums (particularly because the 36 was because of injury) and may well be a keeper going forward. Libba could've been traded last week for $188k profit or this week for $161k with much better scoring on field than you'd likely have been able to get otherwise. Sheed and Crouch flopped. Greene flopped the worst. But anyone that started with Williams, Smith, Rocky, Libba is ahead of the pack.

For me, I started Williams, Smith, Libba, Crouch, Greene. Traded Libba to Fyfe this week (one week later than I should have in hindsight). That's three good ones out of five. My season would probably be a lot worse if I hadn't started those guys because my "premiums" are what's really killing me.

Why do you persist with this notion that Crouch flopped? Season average is 94 & I doubt too many owners would have traded him.

[Mat0369]

Because Crouch has flopped. He hasn't made a lot of cash and with how strong the midfield rookies have been it was a waste starting him. You were better off starting Boak for not much difference up forward and not having to have a Balta type on your bench.

To a degree Rocky has flopped due to the injury game as well, yet he is still scoring much better than Crouch head to head

[Goosey]

What looked like mid price madness early is kind of a flop right now lol as usual.

Still the right move if started the right mid pricers and traded Libba at the right time I reckon.

Williams and Smith looking like keepers down back. Rocky still better than a lot of premiums (particularly because the 36 was because of injury) and may well be a keeper going forward. Libba could've been traded last week for $188k profit or this week for $161k with much better scoring on field than you'd likely have been able to get otherwise. Sheed and Crouch flopped. Greene flopped the worst. But anyone that started with Williams, Smith, Rocky, Libba is ahead of the pack.

For me, I started Williams, Smith, Libba, Crouch, Greene. Traded Libba to Fyfe this week (one week later than I should have in hindsight). That's three good ones out of five. My season would probably be a lot worse if I hadn't started those guys because my "premiums" are what's really killing me.

Why do you persist with this notion that Crouch flopped? Season average is 94 & I doubt too many owners would have traded him.

I started with:
Z.Williams, B.Smith, J.Ridley
B.Crouch, Libba, Cousins, Walsh
J.Worpel, L.McCarthy, D.Moore

I traded Ridley to Duursma in R2.
I traded McCarthy to Baker and Cousins to Ross in R6.

I baulked at trading Libba to the Bont this week as I am ranked 457 and am being very conservative/careful, something I am not normally very good at!

I think that picking the mid pricers has worked, but it worked for me last year too only for my rank to slowly degenerate from the middle of the season onwards. Perhaps because I did't generate enough cash elsewhere.

Have one trade in my pocket this week, may trade Balta to Moore or may just hold. Have Setterfields 67 to cover a late Danger out.

Might look to trade both Walsh and Libba this week, we'll see how things pan out.

[Bully]

Because Crouch has flopped. He hasn't made a lot of cash and with how strong the midfield rookies have been it was a waste starting him. You were better off starting Boak for not much difference up forward and not having to have a Balta type on your bench.

To a degree Rocky has flopped due to the injury game as well, yet he is still scoring much better than Crouch head to head

Have to disagree, Crouch has shielded me from terrible rookie scores & the only rookies worth their salt have been Walsh & Constable, both of whom have been fielded most weeks. Sure Boak would have been better to start but that's a different story, in hindsight I start Boak over Greene & downgrade Macrae to Neale, but you can't win them all. As for the cash generation, not a massive difference between Crouch & say Butters who was a popular starting pick. Think people's expectations of the mid pricers has been wildly inflated, all have pretty much been successful from a points perspective, some like Sheed need to be moved on but he too has averaged 93 so hardly a terrible choice. Rocky the pick of the bunch but only 48 points ahead of Crouch, something which could change as early as next week.

[LaHug]

Because Crouch has flopped. He hasn't made a lot of cash and with how strong the midfield rookies have been it was a waste starting him. You were better off starting Boak for not much difference up forward and not having to have a Balta type on your bench.

To a degree Rocky has flopped due to the injury game as well, yet he is still scoring much better than Crouch head to head

Have to disagree, Crouch has shielded me from terrible rookie scores & the only rookies worth their salt have been Walsh & Constable, both of whom have been fielded most weeks. Sure Boak would have been better to start but that's a different story, in hindsight I start Boak over Greene & downgrade Macrae to Neale, but you can't win them all. As for the cash generation, not a massive difference between Crouch & say Butters who was a popular starting pick. Think people's expectations of the mid pricers has been wildly inflated, all have pretty much been successful from a points perspective, some like Sheed need to be moved on but he too has averaged 93 so hardly a terrible choice. Rocky the pick of the bunch but only 48 points ahead of Crouch, something which could change as early as next week.

Crouch needed to be a keeper or at least make $100k and he's not either. I had Constable on the bench all year which was a huge waste when I could've had a premium elsewhere. I agree with Mat on this one.

Crouch has made $44k. Butters $95k. That's significant.

[Bully]

Because Crouch has flopped. He hasn't made a lot of cash and with how strong the midfield rookies have been it was a waste starting him. You were better off starting Boak for not much difference up forward and not having to have a Balta type on your bench.

To a degree Rocky has flopped due to the injury game as well, yet he is still scoring much better than Crouch head to head

Have to disagree, Crouch has shielded me from terrible rookie scores & the only rookies worth their salt have been Walsh & Constable, both of whom have been fielded most weeks. Sure Boak would have been better to start but that's a different story, in hindsight I start Boak over Greene & downgrade Macrae to Neale, but you can't win them all. As for the cash generation, not a massive difference between Crouch & say Butters who was a popular starting pick. Think people's expectations of the mid pricers has been wildly inflated, all have pretty much been successful from a points perspective, some like Sheed need to be moved on but he too has averaged 93 so hardly a terrible choice. Rocky the pick of the bunch but only 48 points ahead of Crouch, something which could change as early as next week.

Crouch needed to be a keeper or at least make $100k and he's not either. I had Constable on the bench all year which was a huge waste when I could've had a premium elsewhere. I agree with Mat on this one.

Crouch has made $44k. Butters $95k. That's significant.

Crouch hasn't made anything because most people haven't sold, but I'd back him to make more than Butters in due course.

[fanTCfool]

Brad Crouch doesn't become a failed pick just because you are too foolish to put Constable on the field... he's returning from a long lay-off and doing a reasonable job. Has not run his race yet.

[LaHug]

Brad Crouch doesn't become a failed pick just because you are too foolish to put Constable on the field... he's returning from a long lay-off and doing a reasonable job. Has not run his race yet.

Doing a reasonable job isn't why I picked him. As a midpricer, he either needs to make enough money to sideways to a fallen premium or be a premium himself. At this stage, he's not looking like either.

[fanTCfool]

Brad Crouch doesn't become a failed pick just because you are too foolish to put Constable on the field... he's returning from a long lay-off and doing a reasonable job. Has not run his race yet.

Doing a reasonable job isn't why I picked him. As a midpricer, he either needs to make enough money to sideways to a fallen premium or be a premium himself. At this stage, he's not looking like either.

My point being that a return from such a long lay-off requires time to get back to your best footy. Averaging 94 and hasn't dipped below 77, looking at your team I can see you have far bigger issues to worry about. To have expected a 105~ average at this point would be naive.

[LaHug]

Brad Crouch doesn't become a failed pick just because you are too foolish to put Constable on the field... he's returning from a long lay-off and doing a reasonable job. Has not run his race yet.

Doing a reasonable job isn't why I picked him. As a midpricer, he either needs to make enough money to sideways to a fallen premium or be a premium himself. At this stage, he's not looking like either.

My point being that a return from such a long lay-off requires time to get back to your best footy. Averaging 94 and hasn't dipped below 77, looking at your team I can see you have far bigger issues to worry about. To have expected a 105~ average at this point would be naive.

Yeah, I definitely have far bigger issues. Witherden, Brayshaw, Greene are all far worse picks. Doesn't stop Crouch being a poor pick. Picking someone at his starting price and saying you'd be happy with a 94 average is probably more naive than expecting him to average approximately 105. Looks like we're just going to have to disagree on this one though. Probably need to move this conversation back to Libba anyway.

[fanTCfool]

No one's happy with a 94 come season end, but at Round 8, I'll take it with the expectation he builds from here.
Anyway, Libba has thrown a far greater spanner in the works given the timing of his slump.

[bkimm32]

Because Crouch has flopped. He hasn't made a lot of cash and with how strong the midfield rookies have been it was a waste starting him. You were better off starting Boak for not much difference up forward and not having to have a Balta type on your bench.

To a degree Rocky has flopped due to the injury game as well, yet he is still scoring much better than Crouch head to head

Have to disagree, Crouch has shielded me from terrible rookie scores & the only rookies worth their salt have been Walsh & Constable, both of whom have been fielded most weeks. Sure Boak would have been better to start but that's a different story, in hindsight I start Boak over Greene & downgrade Macrae to Neale, but you can't win them all. As for the cash generation, not a massive difference between Crouch & say Butters who was a popular starting pick. Think people's expectations of the mid pricers has been wildly inflated, all have pretty much been successful from a points perspective, some like Sheed need to be moved on but he too has averaged 93 so hardly a terrible choice. Rocky the pick of the bunch but only 48 points ahead of Crouch, something which could change as early as next week.

Crouch needed to be a keeper or at least make $100k and he's not either. I had Constable on the bench all year which was a huge waste when I could've had a premium elsewhere. I agree with Mat on this one.

Crouch has made $44k. Butters $95k. That's significant.

Yep same here

Crouch and sheed were taking up Constables spot for me while sc spuds like Parker and petrucelle were on the field most of the year. Big mistake

[Bully]

Because Crouch has flopped. He hasn't made a lot of cash and with how strong the midfield rookies have been it was a waste starting him. You were better off starting Boak for not much difference up forward and not having to have a Balta type on your bench.

To a degree Rocky has flopped due to the injury game as well, yet he is still scoring much better than Crouch head to head

Have to disagree, Crouch has shielded me from terrible rookie scores & the only rookies worth their salt have been Walsh & Constable, both of whom have been fielded most weeks. Sure Boak would have been better to start but that's a different story, in hindsight I start Boak over Greene & downgrade Macrae to Neale, but you can't win them all. As for the cash generation, not a massive difference between Crouch & say Butters who was a popular starting pick. Think people's expectations of the mid pricers has been wildly inflated, all have pretty much been successful from a points perspective, some like Sheed need to be moved on but he too has averaged 93 so hardly a terrible choice. Rocky the pick of the bunch but only 48 points ahead of Crouch, something which could change as early as next week.

Crouch needed to be a keeper or at least make $100k and he's not either. I had Constable on the bench all year which was a huge waste when I could've had a premium elsewhere. I agree with Mat on this one.

Crouch has made $44k. Butters $95k. That's significant.

Yep same here

Crouch and sheed were taking up Constables spot for me while sc spuds like Parker and petrucelle were on the field most of the year. Big mistake

That's more a structural issue, not really related to Crouch's performance.

[frenzy]

next week I will sideways Brouch to Danger or I could Downgrade him to Heeney.   :o Now that's something to think about.