Liberatore

Started by stevolen23, February 27, 2018, 01:03:42 PM

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crowls

Quote from: fasttrack13 on March 04, 2018, 02:51:43 PM
Perplexed as to how Libba is getting overlooked behind redden, conigs etc... Only guy who has gone better than 105 in more than 1 year, furthermore did it consecutively. He's their best clearance mid and so he's probably going to spent the least time up forward of all of them. Tackling and contested possessions have his points per possession higher than most. Also has done his first quality pre season in years.
all valid points, and if his head is in the right space good for 105 with all his pressure work.   still see him asbit if a pysch case.    only room and risk for one of cogs libba jom griff armitage.     for it is between cogs/jom.
jom gives me cash to upgrade to hibberd at d2.   Just stinks paying top dollar for hibberd who will be available  for 450-480 probably at some stage.   who is playing the run out of the backline role for swans,  mcleish, lloyd, rampe, mills?  is shaw worth another punt,  or will griff or lids come in and take on that role at GWS.   

eaglesman

Quote from: quinny88 on March 04, 2018, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 01, 2018, 04:29:22 PM
Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, Redden, Libba, O'meara, Armitage, Griffen

Could it be a potential starting midfield???

How many of them would people consider if they didn't play well in the first JLT game? Haha
Redden and Armo in particular were barely mentioned before this week.
Dont get me wrong though, grabbing a couple from that list could go a long way to setting up your season

I have had redden locked into my fantasy team since it opened but as a sc option I can’t see it.


eaglesman

Is it just me or did Libba look like he had lost a few kgs and moved quicker across the ground?
I was really impressed.

Money Shot

Quote from: quinny88 on March 04, 2018, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 01, 2018, 04:29:22 PM
Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, Redden, Libba, O'meara, Armitage, Griffen

Could it be a potential starting midfield???

How many of them would people consider if they didn't play well in the first JLT game? Haha
Redden and Armo in particular were barely mentioned before this week.
Dont get me wrong though, grabbing a couple from that list could go a long way to setting up your season
Only one I wasnt considering before JLT was Redden and that is why I am unlikely to start him.

meow meow

You should only pick these guys if you're happy to hang onto them for 16 rounds or if you think they will be top ten material. There will be carnage and there will be super spuds that need to be dealt with before you have the option of even thinking about upgrading these folks. By then you'll be way behind the leaders who have had the real superpremos from day dot.

quinny88

Quote from: meow meow on March 05, 2018, 12:37:26 PM
You should only pick these guys if you're happy to hang onto them for 16 rounds or if you think they will be top ten material. There will be carnage and there will be super spuds that need to be dealt with before you have the option of even thinking about upgrading these folks. By then you'll be way behind the leaders who have had the real superpremos from day dot.

This is the concern I have and it happens every year. When you have cash cows fattening and injury striking you are going to deal with those long before a midpricer  that's going along 'just ok'
More often than not I get stuck with them all year or can't trade them till very late. All good and well if they are going 100+ but it's when they are averaging 90ish that they are in no mans land

ubeaut

Quote from: quinny88 on March 05, 2018, 11:58:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 05, 2018, 12:37:26 PM
You should only pick these guys if you're happy to hang onto them for 16 rounds or if you think they will be top ten material. There will be carnage and there will be super spuds that need to be dealt with before you have the option of even thinking about upgrading these folks. By then you'll be way behind the leaders who have had the real superpremos from day dot.

This is the concern I have and it happens every year. When you have cash cows fattening and injury striking you are going to deal with those long before a midpricer  that's going along 'just ok'
More often than not I get stuck with them all year or can't trade them till very late. All good and well if they are going 100+ but it's when they are averaging 90ish that they are in no mans land
I don't know. Theoretically u pick a midpricer over a rookie. The rookie u would have picked would be upgraded anyway. One rookie down to a new one, and another up to a Premium. You just upgrade the midpricer instead.

Money Shot

Quote from: ubeaut on March 06, 2018, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 05, 2018, 11:58:59 PM
Quote from: meow meow on March 05, 2018, 12:37:26 PM
You should only pick these guys if you're happy to hang onto them for 16 rounds or if you think they will be top ten material. There will be carnage and there will be super spuds that need to be dealt with before you have the option of even thinking about upgrading these folks. By then you'll be way behind the leaders who have had the real superpremos from day dot.

This is the concern I have and it happens every year. When you have cash cows fattening and injury striking you are going to deal with those long before a midpricer  that's going along 'just ok'
More often than not I get stuck with them all year or can't trade them till very late. All good and well if they are going 100+ but it's when they are averaging 90ish that they are in no mans land
I don't know. Theoretically u pick a midpricer over a rookie. The rookie u would have picked would be upgraded anyway. One rookie down to a new one, and another up to a Premium. You just upgrade the midpricer instead.
Think if you are picking a Coniglio, Libba, Redden type you are picking them as a M8 keeper with a 105+ average.

ubeaut

U may pick a Redden/Libba/Coniglio hoping they get 105+ and be an M8.
They could avg 100 tho, which is not good enough for M8, but it doesn't make them a failed pick. Priced at 80 could make 100 k and get to 550k which means easy sideways or upgrade to fallen premium. It does mean you need to trade them eventually.

meow meow

Having to trade them isn't always a bad thing. Let's say Crouch gets a 2 week suspension in round 6. Annoying! Now lets say Redden gets a 3 week hamstring in round 6 - no biggie, just trade him since you will have to do it eventually anyway.

Money Shot

Quote from: meow meow on March 06, 2018, 12:33:09 PM
Having to trade them isn't always a bad thing. Let's say Crouch gets a 2 week suspension in round 6. Annoying! Now lets say Redden gets a 3 week hamstring in round 6 - no biggie, just trade him since you will have to do it eventually anyway.
thats true.

Bully

The good thing this year is there's plenty of sideways trades available, if any of these blokes go down one has numerous get-out options (unlike Lycett).

HoleMeal

What to do with Libba?

-Can turn him into Rocky this week (Rocky has a bigger ceiling)
-Have enough cash to make him Sheed also (again, maybe a higher ceiling)

Watched him last week and he was ok but the above 2 guys have hit the ground running and don't want to miss out on points while Libba clears out the cobwebs.
Also, Port play Carlton at home, potential for big numbers.

Thoughts on the early sideways?

jvalles69

Quote from: HoleMeal on March 26, 2019, 04:44:29 PM
What to do with Libba?

-Can turn him into Rocky this week (Rocky has a bigger ceiling)
-Have enough cash to make him Sheed also (again, maybe a higher ceiling)

Watched him last week and he was ok but the above 2 guys have hit the ground running and don't want to miss out on points while Libba clears out the cobwebs.
Also, Port play Carlton at home, potential for big numbers.

Thoughts on the early sideways?

You know the answer to this.  All good in theory, but things might reverse in round 2.

imjusflexin

Libba was awesome against the Swans. You picked him ahead of those two for a reason. You knew their scoring potential. Don't do it.

Even if Rocky scores 150 next week (which he probably will) the injury risk is still too much and who knows what happens when Wines comes back. As for Sheed, he's looking the goods but is it worth the trade and extra 94k to jump on someone who at best will average 10 more points than Libba?