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Started by stevolen23, February 27, 2018, 01:03:42 PM

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Adamant

Libba, Redden, Coniglio. These picks rarely work out. Best case scenario they do average 105 (unlikely), that was still only good enough for 19th in the competition out of all midfielders in 2017. Then you consider that blokes like JPK, Gibbs, Jelwood, Beams, Treloar, Parker, Cripps, Rockliff etc all averaged below that last year, and the competition will be even greater.

How many people were considering Redden before his 162 in a meaningless JLT game? Libba before an article came out saying that he dominated an intra-club game? Not many. The midfield is not the place to muck around, guns and rooks is the way to go.

meow meow

That's almost exactly my team haha. I suck at this game so it's obviously a bad idea there RD.

Bully

Quote from: Adamant on February 27, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
Libba, Redden, Coniglio. These picks rarely work out. Best case scenario they do average 105 (unlikely), that was still only good enough for 19th in the competition out of all midfielders in 2017. Then you consider that blokes like JPK, Gibbs, Jelwood, Beams, Treloar, Parker, Cripps, Rockliff etc all averaged below that last year, and the competition will be even greater.

How many people were considering Redden before his 162 in a meaningless JLT game? Libba before an article came out saying that he dominated an intra-club game? Not many. The midfield is not the place to muck around, guns and rooks is the way to go.

Last year there was Kelly, Murphy & Oliver. Had you nailed those selections you would have been laughing. I would argue that spending top dollar on Mitchell & Martin carries a greater risk because you are almost guaranteed to lose money. The three mentioned above didn't once dip below their starting price.

Adamant

Quote from: Bully on February 27, 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 27, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
Libba, Redden, Coniglio. These picks rarely work out. Best case scenario they do average 105 (unlikely), that was still only good enough for 19th in the competition out of all midfielders in 2017. Then you consider that blokes like JPK, Gibbs, Jelwood, Beams, Treloar, Parker, Cripps, Rockliff etc all averaged below that last year, and the competition will be even greater.

How many people were considering Redden before his 162 in a meaningless JLT game? Libba before an article came out saying that he dominated an intra-club game? Not many. The midfield is not the place to muck around, guns and rooks is the way to go.

Last year there was Kelly, Murphy & Oliver. Had you nailed those selections you would have been laughing. I would argue that spending top dollar on Mitchell & Martin carries a greater risk because you are almost guaranteed to lose money. The three mentioned above didn't once dip below their starting price.

Good luck nailing guys like that again. It's not like Murphy was a proven premo who was coming off an injury affected season or anything, same goes for Ebert, and Gibbs the year before. Dangerfield, Martin and Mitchell are all certainties to at least maintain their averages, and will most likely improve on them. All of the defender and forward rookies that line up in round one will average at least 70 with rock solid JS, and upgrading them to premos will be a walk in the park. And if you haven't worked it out by now, I am saying this with tongue firmly in my cheek.

I do find it slightly amusing how Libba and Redden's ownership has shot up 3-4% over the last week and a bit however.

ubeaut

I prefer Prestia for around the same price as Libba.
Was considering him or Redden (before his 162 JLT game).
The hard part is to find this years Kelly/Oliver/Murphy out of all the options.

Levi434

Quote from: Bully on February 27, 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Last year there was Kelly, Murphy & Oliver.

This year there is Redden, Libba & Taranto.

With Stringer a close 4th.

meow meow

All you experts will be eating your hats when Lachie Weller averages 108. GC got a bargain.

frenzy

Quote from: Adamant on February 27, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
Libba, Redden, Coniglio. These picks rarely work out. Best case scenario they do average 105 (unlikely), that was still only good enough for 19th in the competition out of all midfielders in 2017. Then you consider that blokes like JPK, Gibbs, Jelwood, Beams, Treloar, Parker, Cripps, Rockliff etc all averaged below that last year, and the competition will be even greater.

How many people were considering Redden before his 162 in a meaningless JLT game? Libba before an article came out saying that he dominated an intra-club game? Not many. The midfield is not the place to muck around, guns and rooks is the way to go.

His coach's pressor was glowing

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: frenzy on February 27, 2018, 10:01:03 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 27, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
Libba, Redden, Coniglio. These picks rarely work out. Best case scenario they do average 105 (unlikely), that was still only good enough for 19th in the competition out of all midfielders in 2017. Then you consider that blokes like JPK, Gibbs, Jelwood, Beams, Treloar, Parker, Cripps, Rockliff etc all averaged below that last year, and the competition will be even greater.

How many people were considering Redden before his 162 in a meaningless JLT game? Libba before an article came out saying that he dominated an intra-club game? Not many. The midfield is not the place to muck around, guns and rooks is the way to go.

His coach's pressor was glowing

Yep, Simmo said Redden has been the standout of the preseason more or less

Still, I think 100-105 would be his ceiling in terms of average. Would love for him to prove me wrong though

GoLions

Quote from: Adamant on February 27, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
How many people were considering Redden before his 162 in a meaningless JLT game?
Meeeeeeeeeeeee

jvalles69

Redden has proven he can be elite in the past, struggled to break into West Coast mids past 2 years, no more Priddis and Mitchell, Mitchell is basically his midfield coach...what's not to like/love?

Jalapeno

Quote from: jvalles69 on February 27, 2018, 11:23:24 PM
Redden has proven he can be elite in the past, struggled to break into West Coast mids past 2 years, no more Priddis and Mitchell, Mitchell is basically his midfield coach...what's not to like/love?

+1

Exactly what I was thinking. He will kill it this year!

Bully

Quote from: jvalles69 on February 27, 2018, 11:23:24 PM
Redden has proven he can be elite in the past, struggled to break into West Coast mids past 2 years, no more Priddis and Mitchell, Mitchell is basically his midfield coach...what's not to like/love?

Has Redden been elite? Highest average of 103, not sure that would be good enough considering the downside.

shaker

Quote from: Bully on February 28, 2018, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 27, 2018, 11:23:24 PM
Redden has proven he can be elite in the past, struggled to break into West Coast mids past 2 years, no more Priddis and Mitchell, Mitchell is basically his midfield coach...what's not to like/love?

Has Redden been elite? Highest average of 103, not sure that would be good enough considering the downside.
Looking at his stats last year he got a fair bit in the mids in the 2nd half of season still some underwhelming scores , might improve some but I guess he is as good a pick as others in the cheaper bracket

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: shaker on February 28, 2018, 07:52:04 AM
Quote from: Bully on February 28, 2018, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 27, 2018, 11:23:24 PM
Redden has proven he can be elite in the past, struggled to break into West Coast mids past 2 years, no more Priddis and Mitchell, Mitchell is basically his midfield coach...what's not to like/love?

Has Redden been elite? Highest average of 103, not sure that would be good enough considering the downside.
Looking at his stats last year he got a fair bit in the mids in the 2nd half of season still some underwhelming scores , might improve some but I guess he is as good a pick as others in the cheaper bracket

Career best average of 103, whilst Conigs has a 106 and more upside and Libba has 106 and 110

I'd love to see Redden beast it, but the likeliness of him going 105+ might not be too high and anything under is not good enough to be in your final 8 mids