Billings?

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Hazza09

Quote from: ubeaut on May 06, 2018, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on May 06, 2018, 07:14:09 PM
Billings along with Spudstein have been the distruction of my season so far!
I am 0-5 in Cash league and essentially my season is over! Who would have thought after only 7 rounds!

Others might have there reasons on holding Billings but for me along with Goldstein these 2 pissweak so called “premiums” have to go!

Billings this week, Hackstein the week after!

I watched Billings today closely and enough is enough, he’s gone!
I wish I could afford to trade them.
Can I ask how u can?
Goldy > Stef costs 100k
Billings > McLean costs 150k
Getting the best in Grundy and Gray would add another 150k

That's 250 - 400k and two less trades for upgrading your team.

I could spend that money on JOM > Crouch/Danger and Murray > Yeo/Hurley as two examples
Or spend it upgrading Billings and Goldy and miss out on two upgrades.
All that cash from downgrading rookies,saving to upgrade team gone.
No Crouch,no Danger,no Hurley/Simmo/Yeo and fielding rookies instead.

How will u upgrade the rest of your team if u spend that money? You'd have to wait till the second wave of rookies like Spargo,Cole,Duman,Coffeild,Ronke,Guelfi,Mirra to make cash AND wait for the third rookie wave to downgrade them to.
I just can't mathematically see how its
possible to trade both Billings and Goldy AND make the upgrades I need to make to field less rookies and score more points.

You do make some good points and yes i can agree with most of those, but in my current situation Billings is Number 1 priority to trade out. What the point in holding him? Yes i understand that rookies need to go first and Upgrades are important etc but Billings has single handedly destroyed my season.

He is a unique in pretty much every team i am up against week in week out, and when your H2H against opponents who have Gray, Heeney or Sicily you are basically done.

I opted not to go with Heeney at the start of the season and went with Billings instead.

Yes i know it might be a wasted trade in going Billings to Spargo for example but he's scoring worse than a rookie at the moment....take out the 133 against Brisbane and whats his actual average? 65? 70?

Spudstein can wait till the bye, yes i can't trade both of them in the space of 3 weeks but out of these two spuds Billings has to go.

Marstar

Billings is basically a fat rookie cow with the very best JS (even if he's given a week or 2 in the magoos to hit form) and like it or not also the very best Scoring Potential.  He has more of a chance of reaching $450k than all the current forward rookies even if he's set to drop again this week. Jumping off now does nothing for any1 long-term as pointed out by ubeaut.

The time for correction trades has ended. Every1 one else is pushing towards bringing in their next upgrades using existing rookies ... do the same.  If that means you can't afford M.Crouch and need to gamble on old favorites like JPK now and Sloane later ... at least that gives you a couple PODs at a cheaper price with a chance to catch the pack. Copying the most popular picks now only keeps you from falling behind ... but also never catching up.


dylanclements

Quote from: Marstar on May 07, 2018, 01:14:30 PM
The time for correction trades has ended.

Sadly I think this is right. To anyone who traded him out when he was over 475, well done. I though about it but didn't have the craic. But just too much value gone to justify a trade - now we're trapped with him I think.

Hazza09

Ok so if you have this current forward line what do you do?

Buddy (Injured), Smith, Petracca (Out of form), Billings (Enough said), Fritsch, J Higgins, ZGL, Guelfi.

How is the above forward line even competitive at the moment? My midfield and defence is relatively ok, i have Spudstein in my rucks along with Gawn which is another issue all together.

But my point with Billings is he is killing me week in week out, basically he's a unique now and my biggest mistake was not pissing him off after Rd 2-3 when the signs were there.

Yes he is worth 377k, he's lost all his value, but in my current situation what am i supposed to do? Upgrade Fritsch who is playing better than him? Trade Buddy or Petracca instead? I can't move on Higgins, ZGL or Guelfi cause they haven't maxed out yet, and to be totally honest Higgins and ZGL are scoring the same if not better than Billings.

So if i was to look at this from my current perspective Billings is basically a clog in my forward line, offering the same output as a rookie if not worse.

Ringo

Quote from: Hazza09 on May 07, 2018, 02:54:51 PM
Ok so if you have this current forward line what do you do?

Buddy (Injured), Smith, Petracca (Out of form), Billings (Enough said), Fritsch, J Higgins, ZGL, Guelfi.

How is the above forward line even competitive at the moment? My midfield and defence is relatively ok, i have Spudstein in my rucks along with Gawn which is another issue all together.

But my point with Billings is he is killing me week in week out, basically he's a unique now and my biggest mistake was not pissing him off after Rd 2-3 when the signs were there.

Yes he is worth 377k, he's lost all his value, but in my current situation what am i supposed to do? Upgrade Fritsch who is playing better than him? Trade Buddy or Petracca instead? I can't move on Higgins, ZGL or Guelfi cause they haven't maxed out yet, and to be totally honest Higgins and ZGL are scoring the same if not better than Billings.

So if i was to look at this from my current perspective Billings is basically a clog in my forward line, offering the same output as a rookie if not worse.
Fair comment and worth a trade. Just need to decide whether you want top priced like Heeney or McLean or another up and comer. Go with gut go but plenty to chose from in the $400/500k if you go that way.

waldorfs wizards

Quote from: Hazza09 on May 07, 2018, 02:54:51 PM
Ok so if you have this current forward line what do you do?

Buddy (Injured), Smith, Petracca (Out of form), Billings (Enough said), Fritsch, J Higgins, ZGL, Guelfi.

How is the above forward line even competitive at the moment? My midfield and defence is relatively ok, i have Spudstein in my rucks along with Gawn which is another issue all together.

But my point with Billings is he is killing me week in week out, basically he's a unique now and my biggest mistake was not pissing him off after Rd 2-3 when the signs were there.

Yes he is worth 377k, he's lost all his value, but in my current situation what am i supposed to do? Upgrade Fritsch who is playing better than him? Trade Buddy or Petracca instead? I can't move on Higgins, ZGL or Guelfi cause they haven't maxed out yet, and to be totally honest Higgins and ZGL are scoring the same if not better than Billings.

So if i was to look at this from my current perspective Billings is basically a clog in my forward line, offering the same output as a rookie if not worse.

In the same boat here and totally agree.. treating him as a rookie that has come to the end and 'upgrade' him is my personal view, having rookies putting out the same points and making you cash is much better IMO

Blues Blues Blues

Billings is like a girl you meet at 2am in a club. You’ve had a few drinks, you’re in the mood, and there she is - standing there, very tempting and very promising. You’ve been watching for a while and you like what you see.

You flirt, buy her a drink, and invite her back to your place. She smiles and says yes. You’re happy with the choice you’ve made.

You leave the club and as you walk out the door and more light shines on her face, you start to question whether you have made the right decision. But, you back your gut - and tell yourself it’s too late to jump ship - you’re committed and you’re gonna see this one through.

You get back to your place, and it hasn’t improved. There is nothing impressive being shown at all, and you feel depressed at the thought that there were so many similar options back at the club, but you opted for Billings.

The next morning, in the light of day, you roll over and see what you’ve wound up lying next to, and you feel sick in the stomach. Hindsight is such a wonderful thing, but you really grabbed the wrong girl.

So, I wish I could go to that club and pick up Heeney or McLean, but I can’t. All I can do is order Billings an Uber, send him/her home, and have a shower to wash away the remnants.

Next week I’ll head back to the club and try and find someone more appealing that I can form a long relationship with.

poolboybob

The thing is with Billings, he was legitimately very good last year. Averaged 92 which is quite respectable for a forward, and averaged 100 after round 5. Plus he has the pedigree of a high pick and is the right age where you'd expect him to be at his best. I dunno what happened, he just looks disinterested this year, isn't running hard and his kicking for goal (which I thought was the only thing holding him back from being an elite forward) has somehow gotten even worse.

smashbox

The thing I've noticed he just never seems near the contest. He's always hanging off the back

Hazza09

Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on May 07, 2018, 03:38:36 PM
Billings is like a girl you meet at 2am in a club. You’ve had a few drinks, you’re in the mood, and there she is - standing there, very tempting and very promising. You’ve been watching for a while and you like what you see.

You flirt, buy her a drink, and invite her back to your place. She smiles and says yes. You’re happy with the choice you’ve made.

You leave the club and as you walk out the door and more light shines on her face, you start to question whether you have made the right decision. But, you back your gut - and tell yourself it’s too late to jump ship - you’re committed and you’re gonna see this one through.

You get back to your place, and it hasn’t improved. There is nothing impressive being shown at all, and you feel depressed at the thought that there were so many similar options back at the club, but you opted for Billings.

The next morning, in the light of day, you roll over and see what you’ve wound up lying next to, and you feel sick in the stomach. Hindsight is such a wonderful thing, but you really grabbed the wrong girl.

So, I wish I could go to that club and pick up Heeney or McLean, but I can’t. All I can do is order Billings an Uber, send him/her home, and have a shower to wash away the remnants.

Next week I’ll head back to the club and try and find someone more appealing that I can form a long relationship with.

hahahahahaha  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Thats Gold!!!

SilverLion

Need an excuse to trade him. Dropped/Injury/Suspension. Otherwise forced to hold at this point.

Not like there's a plethora of stand out forwards ATM anyways. Away from Heeney, McLean and Gray F4-6 could be any number of guys and you'd be doing ok.

Hazza09

Quote from: SilverLion on May 07, 2018, 04:32:59 PM
Need an excuse to trade him. Dropped/Injury/Suspension. Otherwise forced to hold at this point.

Not like there's a plethora of stand out forwards ATM anyways. Away from Heeney, McLean and Gray F4-6 could be any number of guys and you'd be doing ok.

If you have Heeney, Gray and Mclean lets say with Buddy or Petracca your doing very well if Billings was a lingering F6 that you could move to bench. If Billings is your F3 or F4 lets say you can't hold.

I have a feeling he will get dropped this week, i watched him closely yesterday and he was nowhere near it, he doesn't contest packs, doesn't contest contests, he is always 15 metres off the ball.
In the second qtr he was playing out of the back pocket and all i actually remember was him cleaning up Gawn when he was going for a mark in the Demons forward 50. He had 4 or 5 touches in the entire second half and i think 2 or 3 of those were towards the last 5 minutes of the game.
What does he have to offer anymore? The ball continuously bounces off him, his disposal is horrible and he is the most frustrating player to watch at the moment.

Hazza09

Quote from: Ringo on May 07, 2018, 03:23:01 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on May 07, 2018, 02:54:51 PM
Ok so if you have this current forward line what do you do?

Buddy (Injured), Smith, Petracca (Out of form), Billings (Enough said), Fritsch, J Higgins, ZGL, Guelfi.

How is the above forward line even competitive at the moment? My midfield and defence is relatively ok, i have Spudstein in my rucks along with Gawn which is another issue all together.

But my point with Billings is he is killing me week in week out, basically he's a unique now and my biggest mistake was not pissing him off after Rd 2-3 when the signs were there.

Yes he is worth 377k, he's lost all his value, but in my current situation what am i supposed to do? Upgrade Fritsch who is playing better than him? Trade Buddy or Petracca instead? I can't move on Higgins, ZGL or Guelfi cause they haven't maxed out yet, and to be totally honest Higgins and ZGL are scoring the same if not better than Billings.

So if i was to look at this from my current perspective Billings is basically a clog in my forward line, offering the same output as a rookie if not worse.
Fair comment and worth a trade. Just need to decide whether you want top priced like Heeney or McLean or another up and comer. Go with gut go but plenty to chose from in the $400/500k if you go that way.

I think McLean or Heeney it has to be, both are required and both will be Top 6 by the seasons end.

Deadly6

Quote from: Hazza09 on May 07, 2018, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on May 07, 2018, 03:38:36 PM
Billings is like a girl you meet at 2am in a club. You’ve had a few drinks, you’re in the mood, and there she is - standing there, very tempting and very promising. You’ve been watching for a while and you like what you see.

You flirt, buy her a drink, and invite her back to your place. She smiles and says yes. You’re happy with the choice you’ve made.

You leave the club and as you walk out the door and more light shines on her face, you start to question whether you have made the right decision. But, you back your gut - and tell yourself it’s too late to jump ship - you’re committed and you’re gonna see this one through.

You get back to your place, and it hasn’t improved. There is nothing impressive being shown at all, and you feel depressed at the thought that there were so many similar options back at the club, but you opted for Billings.

The next morning, in the light of day, you roll over and see what you’ve wound up lying next to, and you feel sick in the stomach. Hindsight is such a wonderful thing, but you really grabbed the wrong girl.

So, I wish I could go to that club and pick up Heeney or McLean, but I can’t. All I can do is order Billings an Uber, send him/her home, and have a shower to wash away the remnants.

Next week I’ll head back to the club and try and find someone more appealing that I can form a long relationship with.

Yes, you've spent your money, you can't get it back, move on and learn. For me it's usually them that roll over and dry reach  :-[

Keeper27

the top 4 rookies this year (Kelly/Doedee/Finlayson/Murray) have outscored this "Premium"